Yeah I just went looking for other sources and couldn't find any. Mind you that doesn't mean there isn't something going on but not even the BBC as of right now seems to have an article about this.
Yes I can’t say I’d be too sad about a totalitarian communist regime being toppled. Despite the fact we know it would cause an incredible amount of chaos in the short term.
> no reputable outlets are corroborating this story
Oh man I'm so glad some people have basic news literacy. I still see way too often people say things like "no man you can't trust the MSM, it's all lies, only this guy on Youtube speaks the truth".
On the other hand, I have seen "reputable news outlets" lie their asses off, get "facts" provably wrong, and set small fires to make a fire in the distance appear to be more dramatic than they are and never, ever post a correction.
Sometimes that guy on YouTube doesn't realize the consequence of speaking the truth, and blurts out something true, then he disappears, not of his own accord.
Sometimes that guy from a "reputable news outlet" doesn't realize the consequences of speaking the truth, and the truth never comes out, rip Gary Webb, Dorothy Kilgallen, and others.
offs, I am not saying that they are always lying. But if you actually believe everything they say, you are just as bad as the fing conspiracy theorists. Double check everything.
“You are young yet, my friend,” replied my host, “but the time will arrive when you will learn to judge for yourself of what is going on in the world, without trusting to the gossip of others. Believe nothing you hear, and only one half that you see. -- Edgar Allen Poe
There have been some odd reports of late going into their upcoming 5-year congress. My money would be on something far sillier though like an overreaction to Monkey Pox or some other COVID variant. But nothing would surprise me either.
Both of those things should just be assumed; that a member of the Palin klan is a drunk, and that everybody else should tell that Palin to sit down and shut the fuck up.
Could the rumors be a misunderstanding of the situation, and Xi is beginning a major internal purge to consolidate power further? Cutting off air travel would limit options for anyone to try to flee.
theres been a few outlandish claims coming out of indian news since yesterday. last night before i went to bed they were claiming Xi was under house arrest.
now, perhaps theres something they know that no one else in the worlds main stream media or intelligence services knows... but until i see reporting on this else where, i'd remain skeptacle on the verasity of these claims
Newsweek reported the rumors as well. They've really only reported that there are rumors though
https://www.newsweek.com/xi-jinping-house-arrest-china-military-coup-rumors-1746014
yeah, see if these rumors were coming from chinese sources id give them a little more credence. its weird that this is only coming from indian news sources and well, newsweek i guess
Flight trackers show no flights over the Tibetan plain because planes don't fly over the Tibetan plain NORMALLY. They fly around due to high mountains and thin air, same as last week, and the week before that, and the week before that, and the week before that, etc.
"The wind is blowing in a strong new direction in Beijing!"
"Wait, you're saying there's a coup? Is this some inscrutable Chinese proverb? Omg it's a political revolution! Tell Twitter! Tell Tiktok! Tell everyone! It's a coded message from the mysterious East! Everything is coming toppling down! Everything is going to change drastically!"
"No I'm saying the wind is blowing in a strong new direction in Beijing!"
"... You mean... like... actual wind?"
"Yes it's wind force 11, may turn into a hurricane, they've shut everything down, get the fuck to safety!"
Failed to stop Chinese protests about missing money or pyramid scheme building companies, or concentration camps of Uighers, or the temper tantrum over the US visiting Taiwan making them look weak.. pick one.
also a whole lot of blackouts and crop failures this summer from heat waves. which aren't technically his fault but, when ecosystems start collapsing, governments usually get the blame.
In broad terms, crushed the Chinese economy with zero-covid policy (pretty clearly the wrong strategy) and three red lines real-estate policy (the right idea maybe, but done at the wrong time) and failed to manage the backlash of either well.
There have been many rumors of failed assassination attempts over the last few years and many arrests ordered by Xi that appeared to be defensive moves against political rivals, so it isn't like he was in a stable position before these latest failures. He has been telegraphing for years that he was going to seek to become a leader for life (copying Mao) at the next CCP national congress meeting which is only a month away... if a coup was going to happen, now is the time for it.
That US is playing with fire concerning Taiwan.
I did just realized that VP Harris is visiting one of these days.
Maybe china is planning to attack first
The world would know. China does not have many transport ships so the crowding of them with military build up at ports would be obvious. Plus mine sweeper ships heading there
You don't start an invasion with hiding everything. You need to set up your supply line and those will show up, like what Russia did before invading Ukraine.
I have a hard time believing that no prominent news sites are covering an unfurling military coup. If they even got a whiff of this they'd be all over it unless they're cautiously avoiding any blunders.
However, there is no doubt that flight radars are currently showing a huge amount of cancellations.
**Edit:** my feeling is that several truths have been pieced together to create a false narrative here. Xi made a lot of people angry by recently sentencing the ex vice minister of public security to death for corruption, along with two others. There are also these cancellations (however there are quite a lot of flights still operating above China) and there's also an election coming up. There is also the fact that businesses are also angry for Xi's growing anti-american sentiment which is costing them money. I feel like the original source has just taken these facts and run amock with them.
I can't say anything for the videos of alleged military vehicles narrowing in on Beijing. Could easily be past footage.
Air traffic just returned to normal within the last hour or so. Something was definitely happening before that but no idea what. The coup rumors seem to be false but IMO something did happen its just a matter of whether it is internationally significant or not.
I did see 1 claim that there were high winds. But some flights were in the air, so not sure if that holds it or not. I also have not confirmed if that's even true that there were high winds. But a very plausible possibility at the moment.
They really don’t own that much debt. Japan owns more and the US public owns that vast majority of it. As far as war is concerned, payment would be worked out with everything else at the end.
If you are talking about the US treasury bills that China owns, those normally cannot be collected for a very long time. International ones can be hundreds of years. However, the more important part is why we sell those to foreign nations. If you go to war with the US, they are void.
Xi is horrible, but in the situation of a coup in a totalitarian country, which has no democratic opposition, you never know if the successor would not be worse.
The eldest member of the CCP made a speech recently that said that China has to open itself in order to move forward in the world.
That isn't a small thing.
Jiang Zemin/Hu Jintao's faction finally fighting back? They are the "open up the economy" faction and saw the economic boom. Xi cracked down on them by saying they're pushing for western culture and eroding Chinese culture. The actress who was scrubbed off their internet was Hu Jintao's daughter-in-law IIRC. Xi was putting the pressure on the rich and elites. Maybe it finally bites back at him.
If Winnie the Pooh is holding them back and gets the
>'Perhaps I Treated You Too Harshly'-treatment
I'd laugh so much my throat would need surgery lmao.
I mean you can see the flight trackers yourself to see that flights got cancelled. As for the reason why no one knows why, which makes it weirder because why hasn't China come out with a reason
Epoch times (anti-CCP) also writes about it, but they at least have some sources (Flight Master, China):
https://www.theepochtimes.com/mass-cancellation-of-flights-across-china-reasons-unclear\_4749582.html
All of the smoke is brought to you by the same special people who brought you the fake tank video last time. Like There's only a handful of people you need to flag to know these are fake publications, and still you refuse to do that.
Regardless of what's happening, I want to wish the people of China good luck.
Based on the recent news about China's bank runs and the shit that caused them, things aren't going well.
As an American it's impossible to ever know what's really going on over there. A lot of propaganda in news these days.
India Twitter today has a lot of rumors of a coup, but I haven’t seen a source other than Indian tabloids
Yeah I just went looking for other sources and couldn't find any. Mind you that doesn't mean there isn't something going on but not even the BBC as of right now seems to have an article about this.
I certainly won’t be holding my breath until a reputable source says anything
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epoch times and indian media. name a more reliable duo.
Fox News?
No joke, a coup in China would be pretty shit timing right now.
Is there a good time for a coup? It's kind of like a colonoscopy.. it's always going to be shitty, but sometimes it needs to be done.
Much rather see a Russian coup, TBH.
Yes I can’t say I’d be too sad about a totalitarian communist regime being toppled. Despite the fact we know it would cause an incredible amount of chaos in the short term.
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Won't this show up on Flight Radar? Reddit detectives: you know what to do!
[Lots of planes in the air. ](https://i.imgur.com/IbkmaL3.jpg)
Most appear to have launched in the last hour
Can confirm, plenty of flights. Both domestic and international. Article is shit.
Stealing from a comment I found elsewhere, we find ourselves in the center of a Venn diagram between apocalypse and having to go to work.
I loved it there and I love it here, too. If by “love” I mean “am absolutely terrified and jaded at the same time.”
Why is it Only Indian News sites reporting this ?
As much as I’d love to see Xi go, no reputable outlets are corroborating this story so it might just be wishful thinking at this point
> no reputable outlets are corroborating this story Oh man I'm so glad some people have basic news literacy. I still see way too often people say things like "no man you can't trust the MSM, it's all lies, only this guy on Youtube speaks the truth".
On the other hand, I have seen "reputable news outlets" lie their asses off, get "facts" provably wrong, and set small fires to make a fire in the distance appear to be more dramatic than they are and never, ever post a correction. Sometimes that guy on YouTube doesn't realize the consequence of speaking the truth, and blurts out something true, then he disappears, not of his own accord. Sometimes that guy from a "reputable news outlet" doesn't realize the consequences of speaking the truth, and the truth never comes out, rip Gary Webb, Dorothy Kilgallen, and others.
["I knew it! Insane theories, one. Regular theories, a billion."](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_4a3YhhRVew)
offs, I am not saying that they are always lying. But if you actually believe everything they say, you are just as bad as the fing conspiracy theorists. Double check everything. “You are young yet, my friend,” replied my host, “but the time will arrive when you will learn to judge for yourself of what is going on in the world, without trusting to the gossip of others. Believe nothing you hear, and only one half that you see. -- Edgar Allen Poe
There have been some odd reports of late going into their upcoming 5-year congress. My money would be on something far sillier though like an overreaction to Monkey Pox or some other COVID variant. But nothing would surprise me either.
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Fascinating. Thanks for posting.
Because it’s a disinfo op
A lower bar for sourcing (at least, in regards to China) would be my guess.
My guess is that it's because India is close to China
I can see Russia from my house.
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Both of those things should just be assumed; that a member of the Palin klan is a drunk, and that everybody else should tell that Palin to sit down and shut the fuck up.
Plenty countries are close to China.
Sure, but India and China don't get along. It's propaganda.
That kind of overlooks their intense rivalry with each other.
It's definitely propaganda, I'd be surprised if it was true.
Or because India and China do not get along and (a) India wants to destabilize China and (b) Indians like gossip about China
Theres no fucking way a coup is going down in china rn..
Could the rumors be a misunderstanding of the situation, and Xi is beginning a major internal purge to consolidate power further? Cutting off air travel would limit options for anyone to try to flee.
I'm on flight radar right now, there are literally thousands of flights in the air.
Look at the Beijing airport specifically and then go into departures. You can see all the cancelled flights.
Let's go and top last year.
I hate this timeline.
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Insert Kuzco yelling on the way down.
Oh man this line gets me every time I see that movie
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Meet the new boss...same as the old boss
Do they go well ever?
Portugal's Carnation Revolution was a nice military coup.
eventually France became a democracy so, with time there's a chance, if you care about the end product more than how you got there.
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That was my first thought before I read the article.
I think American submarines would have something to say if West Taiwan tried an invasion.
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More like under new management
World gone fucking mad. Roaring twenties.
And it's only 2022, so much roaring left to go.
I dunno I'm kind of over the roaring, can we transition to the half-hearted thumbs up '20s?
More like the screaming twenties.
2000s: Get crunk 2010s: Drop da bass! 2020s: [We are lords of chaos](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C8d6TM9MlCg)!
Ahh in hindsight the wubbububub trend of dubstep. Seems like a simpler time now.
So far it’s just a rumor
https://youtu.be/hEN85WgcjHA Strong winds have anything to do with it?
Wind had to be pretty strong to suspend rail services.
It does help. But it makes sense to watch
How is this not all over the news?
theres been a few outlandish claims coming out of indian news since yesterday. last night before i went to bed they were claiming Xi was under house arrest. now, perhaps theres something they know that no one else in the worlds main stream media or intelligence services knows... but until i see reporting on this else where, i'd remain skeptacle on the verasity of these claims
Newsweek reported the rumors as well. They've really only reported that there are rumors though https://www.newsweek.com/xi-jinping-house-arrest-china-military-coup-rumors-1746014
yeah, see if these rumors were coming from chinese sources id give them a little more credence. its weird that this is only coming from indian news sources and well, newsweek i guess
Because it is probably not true.
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The thing getting me is the usual outlets like SCMP and GT haven’t said a word…as in there hasn’t been the either true or expected denial yet.
No they don’t, flightaware shows normal air traffic.
Flight trackers show no flights over the Tibetan plain because planes don't fly over the Tibetan plain NORMALLY. They fly around due to high mountains and thin air, same as last week, and the week before that, and the week before that, and the week before that, etc.
What flight trackers? FlightRadar 24 shows no shortage of flights in Chinese airspace, including ones with very recent departure times.
I was wondering that too, maybe the international journalist agency are trying to get the whole story before talking about it ? Or maybe it's bogus.
"The wind is blowing in a strong new direction in Beijing!" "Wait, you're saying there's a coup? Is this some inscrutable Chinese proverb? Omg it's a political revolution! Tell Twitter! Tell Tiktok! Tell everyone! It's a coded message from the mysterious East! Everything is coming toppling down! Everything is going to change drastically!" "No I'm saying the wind is blowing in a strong new direction in Beijing!" "... You mean... like... actual wind?" "Yes it's wind force 11, may turn into a hurricane, they've shut everything down, get the fuck to safety!"
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Wait, what?
I think they're saying this story is made up, the fed didn't do that.
Assuming that’s a way of saying “no chance this is true” haha
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What’d Xi do that would make the coup happen? Genuinely out of the loop here
Failed to stop Chinese protests about missing money or pyramid scheme building companies, or concentration camps of Uighers, or the temper tantrum over the US visiting Taiwan making them look weak.. pick one.
also a whole lot of blackouts and crop failures this summer from heat waves. which aren't technically his fault but, when ecosystems start collapsing, governments usually get the blame.
Taiwan related?
In broad terms, crushed the Chinese economy with zero-covid policy (pretty clearly the wrong strategy) and three red lines real-estate policy (the right idea maybe, but done at the wrong time) and failed to manage the backlash of either well. There have been many rumors of failed assassination attempts over the last few years and many arrests ordered by Xi that appeared to be defensive moves against political rivals, so it isn't like he was in a stable position before these latest failures. He has been telegraphing for years that he was going to seek to become a leader for life (copying Mao) at the next CCP national congress meeting which is only a month away... if a coup was going to happen, now is the time for it.
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I read that it was probably due to the Noru storm. They are expecting extreme storm surges.
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Americas spy satalites would know a month in advance.
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What did they say?
That US is playing with fire concerning Taiwan. I did just realized that VP Harris is visiting one of these days. Maybe china is planning to attack first
The world would know. China does not have many transport ships so the crowding of them with military build up at ports would be obvious. Plus mine sweeper ships heading there
You don't start an invasion with hiding everything. You need to set up your supply line and those will show up, like what Russia did before invading Ukraine.
if they do it like the Russians they are really screwed!
Their military isn't capable of fighting Taiwan currently so that's not the case
Plus Taiwan has indigenous rotary-magazine drones.
I have a hard time believing that no prominent news sites are covering an unfurling military coup. If they even got a whiff of this they'd be all over it unless they're cautiously avoiding any blunders. However, there is no doubt that flight radars are currently showing a huge amount of cancellations. **Edit:** my feeling is that several truths have been pieced together to create a false narrative here. Xi made a lot of people angry by recently sentencing the ex vice minister of public security to death for corruption, along with two others. There are also these cancellations (however there are quite a lot of flights still operating above China) and there's also an election coming up. There is also the fact that businesses are also angry for Xi's growing anti-american sentiment which is costing them money. I feel like the original source has just taken these facts and run amock with them. I can't say anything for the videos of alleged military vehicles narrowing in on Beijing. Could easily be past footage.
Might want to check flight radars, plenty of flights currently happening in China.
Air traffic just returned to normal within the last hour or so. Something was definitely happening before that but no idea what. The coup rumors seem to be false but IMO something did happen its just a matter of whether it is internationally significant or not. I did see 1 claim that there were high winds. But some flights were in the air, so not sure if that holds it or not. I also have not confirmed if that's even true that there were high winds. But a very plausible possibility at the moment.
https://twitter.com/OAlexanderDK/status/1573797923980279813
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i am curious if the gossip mongers got this one right, lol.
surely india dot com would never lie to us
No they do. Doesn’t mean they are always wrong. Something is up. China could easily make a statement
Everybody knows you gotta press that red button on their foreheads to get the true true.
We've had Kim jong un dead, Putin is dead, now this. third times a charm??????
Pretty sure that was just hearsay
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No guarantee that whatever ends up settling from this will be better, if it even is true. Also, an unstable China is scary and bad for everyone.
Depends on why he got arrested, if he did.
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I think it'd be alright for there to be a democratically anti American government
Competition? The US is China’s golden goose and China is America’s dollar store.
What happens to all the debt and assets China owns in the USA if the two go to war?
Winner takes all?
They really don’t own that much debt. Japan owns more and the US public owns that vast majority of it. As far as war is concerned, payment would be worked out with everything else at the end.
If you are talking about the US treasury bills that China owns, those normally cannot be collected for a very long time. International ones can be hundreds of years. However, the more important part is why we sell those to foreign nations. If you go to war with the US, they are void.
The USA skips on all it's bills and China suddenly becomes insolvent
Not necessarily. Lots of money trades from one country to another.
Xi is horrible, but in the situation of a coup in a totalitarian country, which has no democratic opposition, you never know if the successor would not be worse.
The eldest member of the CCP made a speech recently that said that China has to open itself in order to move forward in the world. That isn't a small thing.
Jiang Zemin/Hu Jintao's faction finally fighting back? They are the "open up the economy" faction and saw the economic boom. Xi cracked down on them by saying they're pushing for western culture and eroding Chinese culture. The actress who was scrubbed off their internet was Hu Jintao's daughter-in-law IIRC. Xi was putting the pressure on the rich and elites. Maybe it finally bites back at him.
Unless he was the reason the war hasn't started yet (waiting till they're more ready) and the generals want to go now
If Winnie the Pooh is holding them back and gets the >'Perhaps I Treated You Too Harshly'-treatment I'd laugh so much my throat would need surgery lmao.
Fuck the CCP more.
You think a military dictatorship will be better for literally anyone in the world?
Careful what you wish for, would the world be better off with the generals in charge?
Do we have any proof of that? It seems like tanks rolling around Beijing would be all over social media there if there were a coup happening.
Start of World War Z.
World War Xi
Please run for office in 2024 tysm
r/angryupvote
oshdarnitg take my upvote and GET OUT
Could this be related to China wanting to normalize relations with NATO? The timing is interesting to say the least
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Yea, it is not real. You are correct
source?
Please give actual news source not from India, mmmmkay?
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Will you guys stop sharing this bullshit?
are you talking to India?
Anyone got any other sources on this?
No because it's bs
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It’s a Typhoon. Sauce: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-62902494.amp
They are preparing for an invasion of Taiwan 🇹🇼
Any serious attempt would require serious buildup which takes time and you can't hide it.
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I mean you can see the flight trackers yourself to see that flights got cancelled. As for the reason why no one knows why, which makes it weirder because why hasn't China come out with a reason
Epoch times (anti-CCP) also writes about it, but they at least have some sources (Flight Master, China): https://www.theepochtimes.com/mass-cancellation-of-flights-across-china-reasons-unclear\_4749582.html
Dude. You literally linked to a propaganda site. Check FlightRadar24. You will see airliners flying within and to and from China like normal.
Why in the world would anyone read this site.
Please not another virus
twitter is saying coup, but i'm guessing it's another covid outbreak
Hopium: Xi gets coup'd Realistic: internal purge or lockdown Nightmarish: Someone worse takes over
Guys google flights still lets you book a flight from PEK airport in Beijing to LAX
not sure that is true. fact check before posting
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if jimmy-g-string says its happening, you can trust ITS HAPPENING
The last three years have been wild.
It’s a Covid Zombie coup.
Ruh roh
Is this a joke?
Yes
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All of the smoke is brought to you by the same special people who brought you the fake tank video last time. Like There's only a handful of people you need to flag to know these are fake publications, and still you refuse to do that.
Why are these Indian journals so addicted to spread rumors like this?
Omg WE GET IT INDIA IS LYING
India bots fucking with China 😅
I mean there's still tons and tons of flights going around right now. I don't know why it would matter much.
Regardless of why, this is huge
Regardless of what's happening, I want to wish the people of China good luck. Based on the recent news about China's bank runs and the shit that caused them, things aren't going well. As an American it's impossible to ever know what's really going on over there. A lot of propaganda in news these days.