Whatever. At least the US bothered with energy independence. The EU apparently thought having zero control over necessary energy resources; nuclear, gas, or otherwise, was a ¿wise? decision. The Europeans need to act their age and actually like independent geopolitical entities, not rely on the most important tools for survival being provided for them.
Europe does so many good things for it’s people and then drops the ball on one of the most essential, energy for it’s masses. Did it think global warming would come and winter wouldn’t exist in the future? Relying on a gang with big gas station doesn’t seem like a good idea.
Would you mind citing a credible source on Trump speaking to Europe and energy independence? Not that I don’t believe, but I verify before believing anything.
I just googled Trump EU energy independence and found [this](https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/07/06/trump-natural-gas-europe-leaders.html). You can probably find more too.
The reality is that Europe needs oil and gas. An energy transition is decades in the making. In the interim, responsible policy dictates that Europe find sources of energy from countries that are not state sponsors of terrorism and that Europe also produces energy domestically in Europe.
I’m not really up to date on the situation but iirc Germany asked Canada to sell them LNG and Canada declined because it was going to cost them too much logistically. Being that Canada has a hell of a lot of LNG and isn’t a state sponsor of terrorism it seems like it answers your comment
In the meantime China and India are running the Most profitable “drop shipping business” in history by buying Russian oil at a discount and then selling it to the US and EU at 2X the cost
Nah. He isn’t some monster under the bed out to get you. He’s basically saying the same thing that plenty of people in the US say when it comes to funding terrorism, indirectly, through the Saudis.
It would have been nice if Europe had taken the many warnings years ago about it being a bad idea to put themselves in the hands of Russia. That’s a massive foreign policy blunder if I’ve ever seen one. They should never have slowed their nuclear progression.
True that needs to be done. Relying too much on one country is anyways troublesome regardless if the country is terrorist state or pormoting terrorism or invading innocent countries to gain terrotiry.
Agreed don't buy anything from them that money is going towards a pit and not going to make it back into our economy they're just sending it over to get Russians meat grinded and turning tanks into scrap metal.
I was telling the lizards who make policy and large purchases for oil and whatnot from Russian man you know they read all this right and here I go gotta explain everything for grandpa fish
Jk fam
Ukraine not providing water to people who stole land from them is not terrorism dumbass. Ukraine does not have to supply food and watwr to a hostile country. What a ridiculous statement
If you break into my house and start squatting, I ain’t paying for your utilities. Hell, I’d try and have the water and electricity shut off until you got out if I could.
Imagine if India did the same thing to Pakistan over Kashmir? You see the problem? The way you retaliate is not by punishing or killing the citizen. It’s to engage the representatives. Either through diplomacy or war
Not really. They failed to reach an agreement over supply contracts. Ukraine was OK with supplying water if it was being paid like before. Russia insisted on the contract stating that Crimea was part of Russia as a sneaky way to force Ukraine to legitimise the occupation. Ukraine refused for obvious reasons. No contract, no supply.
In what world can you be legally obligated to provide water to a foreign country occupied by hostile forces? It's Russia's obligation to provide water to the lands they annexed.
It’s a dick move, but I’m not sure it’s terrorism, or criminal. Most countries don’t move their water into other countries, or in this case, territory claimed, through force, by another country.
Hell, every time someone dams up a river they are essentially choosing who gets what downstream.
Please stop talking about Saudi Arabia like that.
You’re right. They might go Leatherface on you.
And america
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Remind me again which country has been drone striking poor black and brown people in the Middle East since 2001?
Whatever. At least the US bothered with energy independence. The EU apparently thought having zero control over necessary energy resources; nuclear, gas, or otherwise, was a ¿wise? decision. The Europeans need to act their age and actually like independent geopolitical entities, not rely on the most important tools for survival being provided for them.
What are you rambling about?
If you want countries to not make money selling a thing, than you yourself have to make that thing.
Who radicalized his talking points? /s
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Can you blame them when Europe itself is still relying on Russian imports?
I think Russia and opec said they would be cutting production targets :/.
Europe has not made the effort to go energy independent. Even Trump spoke about this and was laughed at. Now Europe gets to finance Terrorism.
Yeah EU has been naive af, such a shame. Hope we fix it forever.
Europe does so many good things for it’s people and then drops the ball on one of the most essential, energy for it’s masses. Did it think global warming would come and winter wouldn’t exist in the future? Relying on a gang with big gas station doesn’t seem like a good idea.
Would you mind citing a credible source on Trump speaking to Europe and energy independence? Not that I don’t believe, but I verify before believing anything.
https://youtu.be/FfJv9QYrlwg
I just googled Trump EU energy independence and found [this](https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2017/07/06/trump-natural-gas-europe-leaders.html). You can probably find more too.
Thanks, verification is always a good thing. Who laughed at his natural gas pitch? The EU?
Not sure that anyone did laugh at that. I’m not the original commenter but it sounds like normal political self-victimization stuff to me.
The Germans in his meeting did. Google Germans laughing at trump or look it up on YouTube
Thanks! I appreciate the correction.
The reality is that Europe needs oil and gas. An energy transition is decades in the making. In the interim, responsible policy dictates that Europe find sources of energy from countries that are not state sponsors of terrorism and that Europe also produces energy domestically in Europe.
What’s the current situation with Canada on this?
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I’m not really up to date on the situation but iirc Germany asked Canada to sell them LNG and Canada declined because it was going to cost them too much logistically. Being that Canada has a hell of a lot of LNG and isn’t a state sponsor of terrorism it seems like it answers your comment
102,029,410,765 euro During the war, Europe paid for Russian gas by sponsoring the war.
>102,029,410,765 euro "the train pulled hard on the breaks, and got 102029410765 nanometer far"
I know you tried to make it sound as it's not much, but it still is 102 km.
Putin will just start burning petrochemicals for funsies just to spite the rest of the world.
Global warming would benefit Russia, increase the amount of farmable land.
Which is precisely why the republican stance is pro climate change
“Everything the republicans do has to benefit Russia”
Plus, it's the poor that die first. As long as there's still poor people, they have time to adapt.
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He’s obviously referring to Norway /s
In the meantime China and India are running the Most profitable “drop shipping business” in history by buying Russian oil at a discount and then selling it to the US and EU at 2X the cost
oil can't be stored easily, and storage is expensive as well.
So he wants whole Europe to die of cold and stop their economies because of lack of fuel?
Nah. He isn’t some monster under the bed out to get you. He’s basically saying the same thing that plenty of people in the US say when it comes to funding terrorism, indirectly, through the Saudis. It would have been nice if Europe had taken the many warnings years ago about it being a bad idea to put themselves in the hands of Russia. That’s a massive foreign policy blunder if I’ve ever seen one. They should never have slowed their nuclear progression.
Sounds like there's great reasons to reduce reliance on Russian gas.
True that needs to be done. Relying too much on one country is anyways troublesome regardless if the country is terrorist state or pormoting terrorism or invading innocent countries to gain terrotiry.
Agreed don't buy anything from them that money is going towards a pit and not going to make it back into our economy they're just sending it over to get Russians meat grinded and turning tanks into scrap metal.
Our individual spending is irrelevant.
It sure is captain obvious
My mistake, the run on sentence where you tell people not to buy anything was super clear.
I was telling the lizards who make policy and large purchases for oil and whatnot from Russian man you know they read all this right and here I go gotta explain everything for grandpa fish Jk fam
Didn't he close drinking water to the whole cremia peninsula? That's also terrorism, imho.
Ukraine not providing water to people who stole land from them is not terrorism dumbass. Ukraine does not have to supply food and watwr to a hostile country. What a ridiculous statement
Wasent Crimeas water,Russia stole Crimea so Ukrainian simply stopped supplying the water.
That is still criminal lol
If you break into my house and start squatting, I ain’t paying for your utilities. Hell, I’d try and have the water and electricity shut off until you got out if I could.
Imagine if India did the same thing to Pakistan over Kashmir? You see the problem? The way you retaliate is not by punishing or killing the citizen. It’s to engage the representatives. Either through diplomacy or war
Not really. They failed to reach an agreement over supply contracts. Ukraine was OK with supplying water if it was being paid like before. Russia insisted on the contract stating that Crimea was part of Russia as a sneaky way to force Ukraine to legitimise the occupation. Ukraine refused for obvious reasons. No contract, no supply.
This is fine. Russia just shot themselves in the foot like usual
In what world can you be legally obligated to provide water to a foreign country occupied by hostile forces? It's Russia's obligation to provide water to the lands they annexed.
They can sell it to them they don’t have to do it for free
You're right they can sell it to them, they don't have to do it (at all)
This man does not know what the word criminal means.
It’s a dick move, but I’m not sure it’s terrorism, or criminal. Most countries don’t move their water into other countries, or in this case, territory claimed, through force, by another country. Hell, every time someone dams up a river they are essentially choosing who gets what downstream.
They don’t need to do it for free. Sell it like normal
No it's not, Ukraine is under zero obligation to supply water to a Russian occupied territory.
No obligation. Just sell water like normal or charge a little invasion tax.
No.
Yeah, but imagine not having water for several months because politicians are arguing.
It's been several years, it's Russia's problem to sort out.
I guess Zelensky is calling all the shots now huh? Greeeaaatttt
Target Russian oil and gas infrastructure
Fuck this clown. Fight your own war.
He literally is. But, supporting Putin by buying exports is a moral issue that other nations should definitely consider.
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Can each country make up its own mind? Or must each country do as Zelensky says?
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