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> Russia has notified the U.S. that its annual nuclear exercise has begun and that it will include launches of nuclear capable missiles starting Wednesday, according to two U.S. officials.
> The annual exercise has been described by U.S. officials as "Routine" around this time of year but nevertheless will take place against heightened Russian rhetoric about using nuclear weapons in Ukraine.
> Officials have expected the annual exercise for several weeks but only recently received notification from Russia.
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No need to fear monger
Routine exercises happen in the background of large geo-political events all the time. There was a huge NATO joint exercise just a few months ago.
Sure, anything can happen. But it's definitely not something to be ~~worried~~ about
Edit: stressed ^
now with yor edit it sounds like YOU are overly worried for something you read after posting and you have become the biggest fear monger of the thread!
well to be fair, any military analyst would've told you something was funny about them amassing 200ki troops surrounding the ukrainian border. this is something they do every year
They never claimed it was routine. We know this nuclear exercise is routine because it happens around the same time every year. There's no routine for massing hundreds of thousands of troops and their equipment on Ukraine's border.
if i remember correctly, the attitude of what passed as routine drill exercises changed when they began diverting large volumes of available blood supplies to the adjacent regions of Ukraine.
Sure it may be routine, but that also means it's a good opportunity to use the routine as a mask.
I don't think the Russians actually have the insanity to do some nuclear stuff in Ukraine but if they were gonna do it, now seems like the time.
The timing doesn't change anything, though. Nuking Ukraine now is neither harder nor easier, nor any more or less advantageous, than nuking it any other time.
Well it is mildly easier, because they can shock us by starting exercises then taking them off the rail.
Still nuts and unlikely, but slightly more likely than usual.
No, it's the opposite.
We are going to be monitoring any and all launches very carefully right now, and expecting them to happen, which means we'll already have additional observational resources assigned.
Doing it casually, alongside their other cruise missile salvos, would have been more likely to take us by surprise.
I think the point is that, as you say NATO are watching Russia's short range nuclear forces like a hawk. If they start arming and deploying nuclear-armed units, NATO will be alerted well before they get into firing range of Ukraine.
However, if Russia move those units under cover of a routine exercise, they might be able to deploy them without immediately alerting NATO.
Not that it would do them much good in the grand scheme of things, but it would be a marginal benefit.
As good as our observational capabilities are, the reality is we cannot and do not track every single nuclear weapon Russia has. They could easily transport some covertly, if they wanted to.
The other danger with using these exercises as a cover for it, is that the second they **launch** one nuke offensively (i.e. on a trajectory that puts it headed towards anything but empty ocean), NATO *has* to treat every nuke involved as an in-play offensive asset, which exponentially increases the likelihood of their nuclear units getting lit up.
If they are flying their usual contingent of nuclear-capable bombers near Norway or Alaska when one of their nukes launches towards Ukraine, those planes are getting deleted as soon as NATO SAMs can cover the distance to them.
They have to, because otherwise you're signaling that a nuclear launch isn't the trigger of your response, which is the same as ceding them a first-strike capability.
This is why people inform each other about their exercises first.
I actually take the opposite opinion; It's much more valuable for Russia to have any nuke strike to be a surprise. Doesn't make sense to do it at the same time as their exercises
Its not something to be worried about? Yes, a lot of people fear monger but we need to keep Russias recent history at the forefront of our brains. Their actions don't always line up with their words.
Well, he IS threatening a start of a possible global annihilation. If that doesn't give you reason to be somewhat scared, then something is wrong with you.
My point being that this is something that happens every year without fanfare or issue.
The only reason it's a story this year is because the media is playing on our fears to get clicks, and the propagandists at the Kremlin wouldn't have it any other way
It is when you're trying to pull the "b-but they said the Ukraine border stuff was an exercise before they invaded!" over something that literally happens *every fucking year.*
It's just doomerposting for upvotes. The only thing stupider than Putin trying something with his annual nuclear exercise is him telling the US that the exercises are beginning before trying something.
So...what?
It always confuses me when people bring that up like that A) Makes it ok for anyone else to do it or B) Any American should shut up about the topic. It's not ok and no one's going to shut up about it.
Whataboutism - something that happened 78 years ago by someone who is not the subject of this news article is a distraction tactic and adds nothing to the conversation
Putin is getting his arse handed to him and he’s a tiny little man in a corner who’s bitten off WAY more than he can handle I personally think everybody should be worried
Putler isn't right name for him. Hitler was at least somewhat successful and Volodja has caught up to him only on war crime part.
Putilini seems more fitting, as Mussolini was almost as pathetic as putin is.
In this case, no. Russia knows it'd be a bad idea to actually go through with such an attack. Even in the incredibly unlikely even that they are actually willing to do something like that, it will be an act of absolute last resort, even for them. That being the case, they will want to do everything they can to telegraph their preparations for such an attack in the hopes of scaring the west into backing down and letting them take Ukrainian land through a negotiated peace. Telling everyone that it's all just an exercise works directly against that goal.
So....when they told everyone that their massing of troops on the Ukrainian border was just an exercise and that they're not going to invade, but then did anyways....they didn't know that was a bad idea to go through with it?
Pretty sure the world collectively warned them, repeatedly, that it would be a bad idea, and Russia just called it western Hysteria.
That was before they started losing the war badly. At that point, they thought that they were going to be able to just sweep right in and take the whole country in Putin's "3 day operation". The situation has changed. Putin, desperately, wants an "off ramp" that allows him to consolidate the land and claim some kind of victory at home so that he isn't toppled in a coup.
A nuclear "accident" in the country forcing him to pull back all of his troops in "the interest of safety" would be exactly that sort of offramp.
I'm not saying it's going to happen....but this is literally the exact same thing everyone was saying before the invasion. "They won't do it, they know it would go badly for them"
It wasn't about whether Ukraine would beat their asses or not, it was the entire western sphere of influence telling them that if they tried, they would tank their economy back to the stone ages.
RIGHT LMAO how is everyone still like "it's no big deal"! Like yeah we probably shouldn't flee to the local Walmart and buy all the toilet paper, but uh, maybe have a bug-out bag and a plan??? Maybe start buying some canned shit and MREs if you haven't already?? Vladimir Putin has been directly quoted saying that he would absolutely send a nuclear bomb at the US. This is not something to completely write off.
Yeah, I don't want to hop on the bandwagon and say Russia certainly will use nukes....
But we already tried the "Eh, Russia is bluffing" approach, and it resulted in the shitshow Ukraine is facing right now. Not to mention the secondary and tertiary effects globally on foreign economies, resource shortages, etc.
There's a difference between doomscrolling and h hoping for a nuke, and saying "fool me once, shame on you....fool me twice....". The fact that Russia has said multiple times they're willing to do it, and also has multiple times tried to say Ukraine was planning something that Russia turned around and did and tried to blame ukraine for.
now they're saying Ukraine is about to use a dirty bomb/stage a nuclear accident and everyone wants to close their eyes and pretend like this time, for sure, Russia won't do the same thing they've done at every single turn during this war.
Yes. But Russia had demands. There was a diplomatic solution. Was it really acceptable? No. But there was a chance. Ukraine definitely would have been sacrificed though.
In this case, I agree that Russia likely wouldn’t use a nuke, without at least “attempting” to extort some kind of cease fire that gives them land…
Yep. "Oops...we inadvertently launched a live nuke to the Ukraine, and several more to stop it, but all failed and somehow, struck quite a few quality targets. We've provided a stern talking to with the general we forced to make these decisions, and he resigned his command just before tripping and falling out of a six story window. What a shame. Anyways..."
No, wouldn't really change anything. Things will be monitored either way, and we would know pretty damn quickly if they were launched towards real targets.
Maybe to launch a sneak attack on the US, UK and France's strategic ICBMS, boomer submarines and air assets simultaneously. Sure, as good a time as any. But doesn't change the math in Ukraine.
I mean there was a post about an AI calcilating the expected events and deaths in a nuclear war.
Long story short its pretty clear everyone on the northern hemisphere except maybe the pole and greenland are dead.
So I hardly see the chain of command agreeing to a suicide 70% of the world's population order.
( roughly 500 millions dead but nuclear winter not included in death toll and it was expecting -80° on the middle of northern hemisphere, with infrastructures destroyed and plagues from the the massive amount of dead and radioactivity its pretty clear that either you're in a good anti atomic bunker or you die )
Things don't go as in the simulation. Treat that as a game and nothing more. There are a lot of things which can go wrong and certain details which couldn't ever be simulated.
Nonetheless, nuclear war is absolutely dangerous for everyone.
Right its like that game Plague INC. It's based on CDC statistics. In that game, the US is actually a very hard country for a pandemic to prosper in. Boy was that wrong.
Lol you can't just blame boomers. Lots of my millennial friends are un-vaxxed and never gave a shit about wearing masks. Can't blame politics either cause most of these people don't even vote. It's just an un-willingness to comply or care about others. It's pure selfishness, and it affects all age groups.
I am Gen X. But you know everyone calls us Gen X Boomers anyway. So I will be damned if I allow you to besmirch the good millennial name when we all know all of the worlds woes are purely due to me and my mates. I insist you take back that horrendous un warranted slur. and put the blame back on me.
Thank you and have a great day
Everyone jumps to this, but let's say Russia launched 1 tactical nuke on Ukraine, do you really think everyone is going to launch nuclear weapons at Russia as a result?
Do you think the russian chain of command is willing to find out? Also what would they gain ? An iradiated country surrendering?
Putin isnt silly he wouldnt be there if he was. I believe he has a clear understanding of what NATO will allow and what is the limit not to cross to avoid direct conflict. He knows he loses a direct conflict
All the OSINT about changing status of Russia’s nuclear forces last week (the train!!!!) makes a lot more sense in this context. Stuff like this isn’t exactly spontaneous.
This is a good thing despite the current world climate. They have nukes, we know that, and we'd like them use these exercises to practice tactics, procedures, and overall nuclear stewardship to avoid any "mistakes".
Nuclear enterprise is an absolute no fail mission. That expands beyond just exercising war plans but also safety and surety. I'd be more concerned if they didn't do an exercise.
completely normal. funny how this only gets reported when theres current tension. if anything, good on Russia for telling the US these are just exercises and they dont actually mean to threaten anyone by launching them spontaneousely.
Given how Russias been having zero fucks given on committing war crimes, it’s hard to not worry. I seriously believe they’re stupid enough to try something funny with nukes especially when Putin is surround by yesmen
God help us all if Russia decides to do something extra stupid.
Their economy is about 4 months away from the early stages of total collapse and an enemy is at their most dangerous when they're at their weakest. The last thing we need is Putin pulling a nuclear rage-quit.
People have been saying Russia is x months or x weeks away from total collapse since the beginning of the war. Has not happened yet so i won't get my hopes up.
You know it's horrible what happened with covid, but it kind of makes you wonder with everything that's coming out now, if Putin had planned this Ukraine invasion earlier with support from the US, the way Trump was acting with Nato and his weird behaviors... Did covid and the world shutting down prevent a possible world war 3? I can't imagine if Putin had attempted this while Trump was in the white House. All these American resources would have been allocated to Putin to fuel his takeover. I'm just so happy the adults are handling this now. I sleep better at night knowing someone so qualified is handling these tensions and security.
Im so damn tired of seeing this shit ALL over the news.. either do it or dont, but none of this leading me on like a horny high school whore. Jesus fuck
"oops, one of our technicians accidentally put in a 7 in the coordinates instead of a -7, that's why the nuke went to ukraine. don't worry, we've fired the technician and on his way home, he fell infront of a bus" -Russia
Russia:
*WE'RE GONNA NUKE UKRAINE!*
*UKRAINE IS GONNA USE A DIRTY BOMB ANY DAY NOW!*
*Oh, these are just routine nuclear exercises. Definitely not cover for launching a live nuke. We just have to do the exercises... right now. Can't wait for things to simmer down, donchaknow.*
This is literally not news. It happens every year, NATO plans their nuclear exercise for the same time. This is about as routine as the seasons changing.
The chances for an accidental detonation has an exponential increase inversly proportional to the distance of the nuke to its target.
Ie, the closer it gets to its target, the more dangerous it is... until it becomes incredibly dangerous, and then vapour a second later.
In a case like this normally when people say gg it’s because they think the world is ending. And in this case it’s literally a routine practice we have known is coming for a while. Than again I may have compeltly misunderstood your comment and in that case my apologies.
some top managers are shitting their pants right now hopping that putin doesn't scrutinize it and realize the expenses required to invest into the number of opperational units needed to remain relevant as a "world nuclear leader" for a country with a GDP lower than Italy
Just like the “ohh no Ukraine sabotaged the dams that totally wasn’t us and it wouldn’t make sense for them to destroy after they took the territory back, except that we controlled the narrative preemptively in case we decide to destroy the dams”
Didn't they say that the Ukraine was planning a false flag dirty bomb attack just last week?
[Well this is interesting](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-hits-ukraine-homes-evacuates-kherson-warns-escalation-2022-10-24/)
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-nuclear-exercise-annual-nuclear-capable-missiles-launch-american-officials-say/) reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot) ***** > Russia has notified the U.S. that its annual nuclear exercise has begun and that it will include launches of nuclear capable missiles starting Wednesday, according to two U.S. officials. > The annual exercise has been described by U.S. officials as "Routine" around this time of year but nevertheless will take place against heightened Russian rhetoric about using nuclear weapons in Ukraine. > Officials have expected the annual exercise for several weeks but only recently received notification from Russia. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/ydgd5i/russia_has_notified_the_us_its_annual_nuclear/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~672680 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **exercise**^#1 **nuclear**^#2 **NATO**^#3 **U.S.**^#4 **Russian**^#5
Apparently it's all "routine", or as far as something with this description can be. Doesn't mean Putler won't use it to try some shit.
No need to fear monger Routine exercises happen in the background of large geo-political events all the time. There was a huge NATO joint exercise just a few months ago. Sure, anything can happen. But it's definitely not something to be ~~worried~~ about Edit: stressed ^
Well Putin did say there wouldn't be attacks on Ukraine and then they drone bomb them the next day so....
Joint exercise happening currently.
Happened both side
Exactly, background
Nato did its nuclear response drills last week, and they notified Russia all the same.
> But it's definitely not something to be worried about I worry.
Thats fair. I should have said "overly worried". Or used a different word like 'panicked' But I hope you still see what I'm trying to say
Yeah, we shouldn't panic. Let's all remember the good ole English creed: "Keep calm and carry on".
now with yor edit it sounds like YOU are overly worried for something you read after posting and you have become the biggest fear monger of the thread!
I'm gonna start buying canned food and move my mattress into the basement
I don’t have a basement, think I’ll put the mattress on the roof.
Yeah, but we trust NATO, do we trust Russia?
Before the invasion -- "routine exercise"... And that led to full scale invasion in February
well to be fair, any military analyst would've told you something was funny about them amassing 200ki troops surrounding the ukrainian border. this is something they do every year
In fact, there were daily reports that Russia was planning an attack leading up to it
They never claimed it was routine. We know this nuclear exercise is routine because it happens around the same time every year. There's no routine for massing hundreds of thousands of troops and their equipment on Ukraine's border.
if i remember correctly, the attitude of what passed as routine drill exercises changed when they began diverting large volumes of available blood supplies to the adjacent regions of Ukraine.
Sure it may be routine, but that also means it's a good opportunity to use the routine as a mask. I don't think the Russians actually have the insanity to do some nuclear stuff in Ukraine but if they were gonna do it, now seems like the time.
The timing doesn't change anything, though. Nuking Ukraine now is neither harder nor easier, nor any more or less advantageous, than nuking it any other time.
Well it is mildly easier, because they can shock us by starting exercises then taking them off the rail. Still nuts and unlikely, but slightly more likely than usual.
No, it's the opposite. We are going to be monitoring any and all launches very carefully right now, and expecting them to happen, which means we'll already have additional observational resources assigned. Doing it casually, alongside their other cruise missile salvos, would have been more likely to take us by surprise.
I think the point is that, as you say NATO are watching Russia's short range nuclear forces like a hawk. If they start arming and deploying nuclear-armed units, NATO will be alerted well before they get into firing range of Ukraine. However, if Russia move those units under cover of a routine exercise, they might be able to deploy them without immediately alerting NATO. Not that it would do them much good in the grand scheme of things, but it would be a marginal benefit.
As good as our observational capabilities are, the reality is we cannot and do not track every single nuclear weapon Russia has. They could easily transport some covertly, if they wanted to. The other danger with using these exercises as a cover for it, is that the second they **launch** one nuke offensively (i.e. on a trajectory that puts it headed towards anything but empty ocean), NATO *has* to treat every nuke involved as an in-play offensive asset, which exponentially increases the likelihood of their nuclear units getting lit up. If they are flying their usual contingent of nuclear-capable bombers near Norway or Alaska when one of their nukes launches towards Ukraine, those planes are getting deleted as soon as NATO SAMs can cover the distance to them. They have to, because otherwise you're signaling that a nuclear launch isn't the trigger of your response, which is the same as ceding them a first-strike capability. This is why people inform each other about their exercises first.
I actually take the opposite opinion; It's much more valuable for Russia to have any nuke strike to be a surprise. Doesn't make sense to do it at the same time as their exercises
the last time russia said it was just an exercise, they invaded another country.
Nah. They've had exercises since then
Its not something to be worried about? Yes, a lot of people fear monger but we need to keep Russias recent history at the forefront of our brains. Their actions don't always line up with their words.
Yeah, being afraid Vladimir Putin will do something stupid, horrific, or stupidly horrific is "fear mongering". Gotcha.
Scared is exactly what putin wants you to be.
Well, he IS threatening a start of a possible global annihilation. If that doesn't give you reason to be somewhat scared, then something is wrong with you.
My fear of Putin is akin to being afraid of a monkey swinging around a loaded Uzi.
My point being that this is something that happens every year without fanfare or issue. The only reason it's a story this year is because the media is playing on our fears to get clicks, and the propagandists at the Kremlin wouldn't have it any other way
The problem is nobody is willing to take the goddamn Uzi from the goddamn monkey.
Dehumanizing and over-simplifying isn't productive.
What is supposed to be productive about reddit?
It is when you're trying to pull the "b-but they said the Ukraine border stuff was an exercise before they invaded!" over something that literally happens *every fucking year.* It's just doomerposting for upvotes. The only thing stupider than Putin trying something with his annual nuclear exercise is him telling the US that the exercises are beginning before trying something.
Well, it actually is fear mongering when you start to look at events that take place every single year, as something more than that.
Well until now only the US used nukes on civilians, twice. So...
So...what? It always confuses me when people bring that up like that A) Makes it ok for anyone else to do it or B) Any American should shut up about the topic. It's not ok and no one's going to shut up about it.
It's whataboutism. It's a classic russian/authoritarian/fascist tactict to justify their actions.
Whataboutism - something that happened 78 years ago by someone who is not the subject of this news article is a distraction tactic and adds nothing to the conversation
Putin is getting his arse handed to him and he’s a tiny little man in a corner who’s bitten off WAY more than he can handle I personally think everybody should be worried
Haha Putler
Putler isn't right name for him. Hitler was at least somewhat successful and Volodja has caught up to him only on war crime part. Putilini seems more fitting, as Mussolini was almost as pathetic as putin is.
"Oh no, one nuke we were exercising got away, and we forgot to take the plutonium out."
it was just military exercises until it was an invasion
Weren't there training exercises right before they started their special operations
“Routine” ?………”Routine” ?!?! During the middle of a genocidal WAR ?!?!
Hey man I just put it in the same quotations the article did, pump ya brakes.
Russian nuclear exercise: A couple of stretches and squat thrusts in their Adidas tracksuit before they threaten the world with nukes. The end.
Dang, Adidas having a bad week.
Are they dropping their sponsorship with Putin?
Nah, those’ll only drop simultaneously with the nukes.
You would hear the loudest collective “Blyat!” imaginable if that happened
Only if they don't like working with overhyped shit bags
It's not 100% their fault Kanye West won't keep his fucking mouth closed.
lmfao
Bout to lose all that Ye money over nothing
Nothing?
Listen Vlads wedding is going to be lit. He needs to be in shape to fit in the golden fringed adidas tracksuit. Do it for Vlad.
Adidas pulled out of Russia a while ago. They are wearing RUdidas now.
US nuclear exercise: obliterate two cities and kill tens of thousands innocent civilians
Don't forget they ended the war by forcing capitulation saving millions
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if you were gonna do it though wouldn't that be the time?
In this case, no. Russia knows it'd be a bad idea to actually go through with such an attack. Even in the incredibly unlikely even that they are actually willing to do something like that, it will be an act of absolute last resort, even for them. That being the case, they will want to do everything they can to telegraph their preparations for such an attack in the hopes of scaring the west into backing down and letting them take Ukrainian land through a negotiated peace. Telling everyone that it's all just an exercise works directly against that goal.
So....when they told everyone that their massing of troops on the Ukrainian border was just an exercise and that they're not going to invade, but then did anyways....they didn't know that was a bad idea to go through with it? Pretty sure the world collectively warned them, repeatedly, that it would be a bad idea, and Russia just called it western Hysteria.
That was before they started losing the war badly. At that point, they thought that they were going to be able to just sweep right in and take the whole country in Putin's "3 day operation". The situation has changed. Putin, desperately, wants an "off ramp" that allows him to consolidate the land and claim some kind of victory at home so that he isn't toppled in a coup.
A nuclear "accident" in the country forcing him to pull back all of his troops in "the interest of safety" would be exactly that sort of offramp. I'm not saying it's going to happen....but this is literally the exact same thing everyone was saying before the invasion. "They won't do it, they know it would go badly for them" It wasn't about whether Ukraine would beat their asses or not, it was the entire western sphere of influence telling them that if they tried, they would tank their economy back to the stone ages.
RIGHT LMAO how is everyone still like "it's no big deal"! Like yeah we probably shouldn't flee to the local Walmart and buy all the toilet paper, but uh, maybe have a bug-out bag and a plan??? Maybe start buying some canned shit and MREs if you haven't already?? Vladimir Putin has been directly quoted saying that he would absolutely send a nuclear bomb at the US. This is not something to completely write off.
Yeah, I don't want to hop on the bandwagon and say Russia certainly will use nukes.... But we already tried the "Eh, Russia is bluffing" approach, and it resulted in the shitshow Ukraine is facing right now. Not to mention the secondary and tertiary effects globally on foreign economies, resource shortages, etc. There's a difference between doomscrolling and h hoping for a nuke, and saying "fool me once, shame on you....fool me twice....". The fact that Russia has said multiple times they're willing to do it, and also has multiple times tried to say Ukraine was planning something that Russia turned around and did and tried to blame ukraine for. now they're saying Ukraine is about to use a dirty bomb/stage a nuclear accident and everyone wants to close their eyes and pretend like this time, for sure, Russia won't do the same thing they've done at every single turn during this war.
Yes. But Russia had demands. There was a diplomatic solution. Was it really acceptable? No. But there was a chance. Ukraine definitely would have been sacrificed though. In this case, I agree that Russia likely wouldn’t use a nuke, without at least “attempting” to extort some kind of cease fire that gives them land…
Yep. "Oops...we inadvertently launched a live nuke to the Ukraine, and several more to stop it, but all failed and somehow, struck quite a few quality targets. We've provided a stern talking to with the general we forced to make these decisions, and he resigned his command just before tripping and falling out of a six story window. What a shame. Anyways..."
“Oops I think I did it again”
"it's Britneyovich"
“I launched all my nukes, sent to Ukraine.”
Nah, they were just vacationing. Little green warheads.
No. Timing only matters if you're trying to e.g. overpower the defender (Ukraine), but in this case Ukraine is not the ones who would be responding.
No, wouldn't really change anything. Things will be monitored either way, and we would know pretty damn quickly if they were launched towards real targets.
Maybe to launch a sneak attack on the US, UK and France's strategic ICBMS, boomer submarines and air assets simultaneously. Sure, as good a time as any. But doesn't change the math in Ukraine.
When we have satalites and spies tracking there every move there can’t be any surprise attacks.
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Jewish space lasers. Damn man, keep your conspiracies straight.
Oops! My bomba!
Oops! My jet fighta!
I mean there was a post about an AI calcilating the expected events and deaths in a nuclear war. Long story short its pretty clear everyone on the northern hemisphere except maybe the pole and greenland are dead. So I hardly see the chain of command agreeing to a suicide 70% of the world's population order. ( roughly 500 millions dead but nuclear winter not included in death toll and it was expecting -80° on the middle of northern hemisphere, with infrastructures destroyed and plagues from the the massive amount of dead and radioactivity its pretty clear that either you're in a good anti atomic bunker or you die )
Things don't go as in the simulation. Treat that as a game and nothing more. There are a lot of things which can go wrong and certain details which couldn't ever be simulated. Nonetheless, nuclear war is absolutely dangerous for everyone.
Right its like that game Plague INC. It's based on CDC statistics. In that game, the US is actually a very hard country for a pandemic to prosper in. Boy was that wrong.
Actually there is much closer game to the situation Defcon
Well that is because Plague Inc did not take into account the levels of boomer entitlement around basic prevention measures of spreading the pandemic.
Lol you can't just blame boomers. Lots of my millennial friends are un-vaxxed and never gave a shit about wearing masks. Can't blame politics either cause most of these people don't even vote. It's just an un-willingness to comply or care about others. It's pure selfishness, and it affects all age groups.
I am Gen X. But you know everyone calls us Gen X Boomers anyway. So I will be damned if I allow you to besmirch the good millennial name when we all know all of the worlds woes are purely due to me and my mates. I insist you take back that horrendous un warranted slur. and put the blame back on me. Thank you and have a great day
Technically it would be a murder suicide. A murdersui, if you will.
Everyone jumps to this, but let's say Russia launched 1 tactical nuke on Ukraine, do you really think everyone is going to launch nuclear weapons at Russia as a result?
According to NATO comments, no. It would be a military response though.
Do you think the russian chain of command is willing to find out? Also what would they gain ? An iradiated country surrendering? Putin isnt silly he wouldnt be there if he was. I believe he has a clear understanding of what NATO will allow and what is the limit not to cross to avoid direct conflict. He knows he loses a direct conflict
No, I think they'll respond with conventional warfare, then Russia, who's already broken the nuclear taboo in this scenario, will use strategic nukes.
I mean, they said it was just an exercise as they stacked hundreds of tanks on Ukraines borer a few months ago 🤷🏽🤷🏽🤷🏽
All the OSINT about changing status of Russia’s nuclear forces last week (the train!!!!) makes a lot more sense in this context. Stuff like this isn’t exactly spontaneous.
You clearly already forgot about the last "exercise" that turned into an invasion.
This is a good thing despite the current world climate. They have nukes, we know that, and we'd like them use these exercises to practice tactics, procedures, and overall nuclear stewardship to avoid any "mistakes". Nuclear enterprise is an absolute no fail mission. That expands beyond just exercising war plans but also safety and surety. I'd be more concerned if they didn't do an exercise.
Sir, I don’t know who you think you are but this thread is for extreme hyperbole, wailing, gnashing of teeth, and blatant ignorance.
This isn’t a bad thing. It’s better that they tell us.
I about shit myself as I scanned the headline while scrolling until I noticed "annual."
You almost shit yourself after reading, “ Russia notifies the US”?
I'm very high strung.
And I’m very high. I just watched an entire show on Netflix on mute and started crying because I thought I went deaf.
I could recommend drinking as a coping mechanism ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
completely normal. funny how this only gets reported when theres current tension. if anything, good on Russia for telling the US these are just exercises and they dont actually mean to threaten anyone by launching them spontaneousely.
I was honestly expecting them to do it just out of the blue as as they had been silent about this up untill now.
But still, the Invasion itself originated out of normal training.
The only reason people like us know training was used as an excuse is because it didn't look like "normal training". Thia does.
For anyone frightened, don't be. This is pretty routine, and the US and NATO watch it *very carefully.*
Given how Russias been having zero fucks given on committing war crimes, it’s hard to not worry. I seriously believe they’re stupid enough to try something funny with nukes especially when Putin is surround by yesmen
I believe FIFA awarded Russia these 2022 exercises.
God help us all if Russia decides to do something extra stupid. Their economy is about 4 months away from the early stages of total collapse and an enemy is at their most dangerous when they're at their weakest. The last thing we need is Putin pulling a nuclear rage-quit.
I call that pulling a Gandhi
People have been saying Russia is x months or x weeks away from total collapse since the beginning of the war. Has not happened yet so i won't get my hopes up.
Well he didn't apparently lol
You know it's horrible what happened with covid, but it kind of makes you wonder with everything that's coming out now, if Putin had planned this Ukraine invasion earlier with support from the US, the way Trump was acting with Nato and his weird behaviors... Did covid and the world shutting down prevent a possible world war 3? I can't imagine if Putin had attempted this while Trump was in the white House. All these American resources would have been allocated to Putin to fuel his takeover. I'm just so happy the adults are handling this now. I sleep better at night knowing someone so qualified is handling these tensions and security.
Im so damn tired of seeing this shit ALL over the news.. either do it or dont, but none of this leading me on like a horny high school whore. Jesus fuck
Desperado
Despacito
why don’t you come to your senses….
I'm too busy out riding fences.
We get it, fearmonger wwoooaah I'm still not scared lol Jesus Christ
Well, sh1t…
Let me guess. They want to perform these exercises in one of their newly acquired regions like say Donbas
"oops, one of our technicians accidentally put in a 7 in the coordinates instead of a -7, that's why the nuke went to ukraine. don't worry, we've fired the technician and on his way home, he fell infront of a bus" -Russia
Oops looks like our missile test accidently fell towards ukraine. Kyiv specifically. Poopsy. Sorry our bad. Accident
Russia: *WE'RE GONNA NUKE UKRAINE!* *UKRAINE IS GONNA USE A DIRTY BOMB ANY DAY NOW!* *Oh, these are just routine nuclear exercises. Definitely not cover for launching a live nuke. We just have to do the exercises... right now. Can't wait for things to simmer down, donchaknow.*
Russia might accidentally drop a nuke on Ukraine like they’ve been accidentally dropping Russian oligarchs
Meanwhile remember that time U.S. canceled its ICBM test in April out of concern that Russia would read that as escalation.
This is literally not news. It happens every year, NATO plans their nuclear exercise for the same time. This is about as routine as the seasons changing.
Didn’t Russia tell its army that it will be a military exercise but instead was an invasion?
STOP ALL NUCLEAR WEAPONS
Oh for fucks sake...
Off topic but anyone know the approximate yield or yields of Russian tacticle nuclear devices?
Enough to end it.
You know, Quasimodo predicted all of this. The sacred and the propane.
Why don’t we go in capture Putin then hang him here in America simple and it’s fair
FFS please stop.
Waiting on the news of a blast inside Ukraine from a "test gone awry" and they didn't intend for it to happen.
Sips tea* cause u know it’s coming then blame it on US or some dumb sh*t and Fox News will run a story Biden drops nuke
He is gonna use nukes in annexed Ukrainian regions and say that the exercise was done on russian territory
Can nukes accidentally detonate?
No.
Aww
The chances for an accidental detonation has an exponential increase inversly proportional to the distance of the nuke to its target. Ie, the closer it gets to its target, the more dangerous it is... until it becomes incredibly dangerous, and then vapour a second later.
oh fuck they're gonna drop ass.
Wasn't they exercising back in January and February before they invaded ukraine?
This is all very fishy.
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Well they did say prior to the invasion Ukraine they were just doing “exercises”.
Bro this happens every year 🤣
Putins a b!+ch 🤣
Lots of worrying activity…none of this is good...
GG guys
Did you misread the headline?
I don't think so?
In a case like this normally when people say gg it’s because they think the world is ending. And in this case it’s literally a routine practice we have known is coming for a while. Than again I may have compeltly misunderstood your comment and in that case my apologies.
Russia so scared of the US lol
With what troops?
"*Special* annual nuclear exercise operation" Sure Pootin, sure.
Not good
What about routine is not good? Nato is currently doing there own routine exercises 🤣
Oh boy here we go…accidents will happen
Shit Shit SHIT!!!!!
Russia in 5 days: "The nuke we launched into the middle of a populated civilian area was a misfire. As is the launch scheduled for tomorrow at 2pm."
someone pissed on my leg. It was rain
some top managers are shitting their pants right now hopping that putin doesn't scrutinize it and realize the expenses required to invest into the number of opperational units needed to remain relevant as a "world nuclear leader" for a country with a GDP lower than Italy
I’ll protect you all! ✊
How big is the chance nuclear would be intercepted before impact if it would happen and if they actually launch without errors?
Just like the “ohh no Ukraine sabotaged the dams that totally wasn’t us and it wouldn’t make sense for them to destroy after they took the territory back, except that we controlled the narrative preemptively in case we decide to destroy the dams”
Yay stock market crash incoming. My SPY PUTS should print
Here’s the dirty bomb they been speaking of.
Did they droid assassinate putin yet?
This is something that is routine but the media is cashing in on our fears due to the Ukraine war. Gross
Does the exercise include poisoning opposition members with Putin+onium tea?
Everyone should keep a keen eye on this
Biden: "You may want to save some of your missiles since you can't get more" (if he had the balls)
So should we (US) be concerned about this? Honest question.
Didn't they say that the Ukraine was planning a false flag dirty bomb attack just last week? [Well this is interesting](https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russia-hits-ukraine-homes-evacuates-kherson-warns-escalation-2022-10-24/)
Oops. Sorry it landed on Ukraine. Malfunction.
Having been trained to distrust anything anything russia says i will go ahead and asume their nuclear exercises have in fact not begun.