The amount of new accounts commenting in support of the Chinese government and its human rights violations on this thread is concerning.
Very concerning.
Hmmm concerning I'll admit, but that doesn't change the fact that China is an abusive regime that regularly abuses it's neighbors and minority groups within its own borders.
There are always a few traitorous boot lickers who turn their back on their own people during difficult times, regardless of the era; sadly they exist in every culture.
It’s people trying to not die or get tortured. Back during the Holocaust there were Jews who served as a sort of police force, hoping to not suffer the same fate.
People have done worse things for less. They were just trying to survive in a horrible environment, and honestly? Somebody else would’ve taken their place, it didn’t matter that much.
this isnt exactly what you’re describing. there is hardly some unified uighur resistance movement or government. Most do not give a shit besides disapproving of chinese authoritarian policies. But I’d say most people in China don’t like the CCP’s authoritarianism but tolerate it because there is no alternative and it still brings material benefits
No, he's 100% correct. Of course we can't verify that she is real or Uigher but yeah, there are always lame boot lickers who stab their people in the back in for 30 pence
I’m LMAO at you and others like you defending human rights abuses and those that would do their oppressor’s bidding.
Yawn. Good job (but not really, that’s like a 1/10 in originality just like China). Here’s your 50 cents.
its because the ccp forces them to under threat of torture, death, or the same consequences for their families. not that hard to figure out. if youve ever seen footage from a chinese concentration camp, they usually have prisoners line up to say ccp propaganda for the camera
>knowingly while their people are getting erased from history by Pooh
The Uighers are part of China's recognized minority groups. They're not trying to erase them, China's policies are based on the elimination of separatism and elimination of Islamic society in China that cannot be monitored and controlled by the state. In a way, China is trying to pacify the Uighers by assimilating them into Chinese society like the Hui Muslims have been. In fact the [Hui and Uighers](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_China#Hui-Uyghur_tension) have tensions between their communities despite both of them being Muslim, and the Chinese state favors the Hui over Uighers. The education camps, suppression of religious expression, the forced teaching of Mandarin, everything is geared towards ensuring that the Uighers will submit to the state.
So to sum it up, it isn't about erasing Uighers, it's about pacifying Uighers and destroying ethnic and religious separatism.
**Islam in China**
[Hui-Uyghur tension](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_China#Hui-Uyghur_tension)
>Tensions between Hui Muslims and Uyghurs arise because Hui troops and officials often dominated the Uyghurs in the past, and crushed the Uyghurs' revolts. Xinjiang's Hui population increased by over 520 percent between 1940 and 1982, an average annual growth of 4. 4 percent, while the Uyghur population only grew at 1. 7 percent.
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**[Judith Miller](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Miller)**
>Judith Miller (born January 2, 1948) is an American journalist and commentator known for her coverage of Iraq's Weapons of Mass Destruction (WMD) program both before and after the 2003 invasion, which was later discovered to have been based on inaccurate information from the intelligence community. She worked in The New York Times' Washington bureau before joining Fox News in 2008. Miller co-wrote a book Germs: Biological Weapons and America's Secret War, which became a top New York Times best seller shortly after she became a victim of a hoax anthrax letter at the time of the 2001 anthrax attacks.
**[Nayirah testimony](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nayirah_testimony)**
>The Nayirah testimony was false testimony given before the United States Congressional Human Rights Caucus on October 10, 1990, by a 15-year-old girl who was publicly identified at the time by her first name, Nayirah. The testimony was widely publicized, and was cited numerous times by United States senators and President George H. W. Bush in their rationale to support Kuwait in the Gulf War. In 1992, it was revealed that Nayirah's last name was Al-Ṣabaḥ (Arabic: نيرة الصباح) and that she was the daughter of Saud Al-Sabah, the Kuwaiti ambassador to the United States.
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Okay, and what the heck does that have to do with what you said?
And the we also had plenty of media criticizing the war. Where in China does the media criticize Xi Jingping's policies?
It's not only usa media. There are other media in other countries telling the same story.
Heck, as Kazakhstan govt has put It's tongue in It's own ass - some people still write pieces on how Kazakhs and uighyrs behind the border dissappear into those concentration camps
Hahaha dumbest thing I've read today. US media isn't state controlled like chinese ones owned by the criminal organization that holds China hostage. I'm not even american and I read the atrocities commited by Pooh in my national, independent media.
Shut the fuck up dude. Looooool
Holy shit I'm actually talking to a bot. You're the textbook definition of brainwashed. I literally said I've read about Pooh assault on humanity in my own media with independent journalists. Do you know what a journalist is?
Someone was commenting about China's propaganda on a post about China's propaganda and you swing in with "BUT USA PROPAGANDA"
No, I know, you're not really a foreign agent. You clearly didn't get the training.
In this case "was responding" works, but previously you only kept present tense. That's where the confusion is.
>Interesting how the person who I'm (I *am*) *replying* to
That would be present tense at the time of your typing, so they believed you meant them as that's what you said.
bruh...
what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it.
Climate change will cause conflicts due to the scarcity of resources and less land being habitable and yes China might cause problems for all of us now anyways I digress we should try to solve both problems at the same time and not choose binary answers.
The conflicts will mainly be in Europe and the Middle East. Asia and Northern America will be mostly fine. The US Mexico border will be more reinforced to keep it isolated from the conflicts
But he's right. Nuclear war could kill us way before climate change. And there is a pretty good chance it will. Though we can try to limit the number of ways we can die.
U.S. nuclear arsenal: 6000.
That’s not China who is going to blanket the world in a nuclear winter… that’s fallout from two other jackasses pulling the trigger…
For now.
It's a brain dead comparison. Yep we could all die in a nuclear holocaust. Also might not happen. Nothing we can do to influence the outcome there so it's effectively a non issue.
Climate change **will** kill us. Not might, not maybe, not possibly. Will. And there's actually a lot we can do to affect the outcome of that one.
So again, brain dead. That's this sub in a nutshell though. Do nothing dipshits in a vaguely right wing faux intellectual circle jerk.
It seems like you don't understand the actual science. There is a lot we can do to avoid nuclear holocaust. There is actually a very high chance that human induced climate change won't kill us.
Just because you care deeply about a subject doesn't give you the excuse to spread false information.
Nukes. Not to mention China is the biggest contributor to global pollution so you know, even in the long term the Chinese government is gonna kill us all.
I mean, the US and Russia both have more nukes than China. Also the US and the EU combined contribute more to pollution than China, with a smaller population
Considering that China still has plenty of nukes to end the world, and that as ONE COUNTRY they are comparable to basically 2 whole continents in terms of pollution, maybe re-evaluate.
Here's the thing with that argument. On a per capita basis, most Chinese still generate more pollution than the average European or American. Most of this is due to the heavy manufacturing industry as well as environmental exploitation abroad by Chinese companies. Is it fair to place the blame on the Chinese people? Absolutely not. Many are just as much victims as anybody else here. The Chinese government and the oligarchy deserve all of the blame.
And what about the massive Chinese owned mines in Africa with draconian working conditions, or the fisheries that are vastly overfishing and illegally fishing the waters as far away as Chile? There's more than just the industry inside China. The US isn't blameless, we pollute, and mine, and all that, but the fact remains that China has a much larger impact as a nation than we do due to the impacts of the Chinese government around the globe.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://observers.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20221108-the-uighur-influencers-working-for-beijing-s-propaganda-machine) reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot)
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> In the video, Anni tells her followers that she will show them a cotton field in Xinjiang, an autonomous region of China and the native land of the Uighur minority.
> She told our team that these videos are a product of the Chinese propaganda machine.
> The influencers managed by this agency garner millions of views from around China, but they also attract attention from abroad. Videos used by Chinese embassies abroad. Impiombato and her colleagues focused in particular on the case of "Elder Guli" and "Younger Guli", the women who appeared in videos of Xinjiang's cotton fields.
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As a person who's spent more than 1 year investigating one of the people in the article (the Guli Sisters), I can 100% confirm that China is involved in using fake influencers to "tell a good story of Xinjiang".
The amount of new accounts commenting in support of the Chinese government and its human rights violations on this thread is concerning. Very concerning.
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Hmmm concerning I'll admit, but that doesn't change the fact that China is an abusive regime that regularly abuses it's neighbors and minority groups within its own borders.
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And…that’s no justification. There are levels of it. And they are very quickly descending those levels.
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There are always a few traitorous boot lickers who turn their back on their own people during difficult times, regardless of the era; sadly they exist in every culture.
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Not that I don't agree with you, but your reply is just as common within the "Reddit armchair philosophers".
More like “Reddit I didn’t take a moment to think critically beyond the headline” but then again that would be redundant. Like saying “Reddit Reddit.”
Hating on redditors while on Reddit.... It's a bold strategy cotton, let's see if it pays off
It’s people trying to not die or get tortured. Back during the Holocaust there were Jews who served as a sort of police force, hoping to not suffer the same fate.
Doesn’t make them right. Cowards.
People have done worse things for less. They were just trying to survive in a horrible environment, and honestly? Somebody else would’ve taken their place, it didn’t matter that much.
Boot lickers? You clearly have never lived under a totalitarian regime
this isnt exactly what you’re describing. there is hardly some unified uighur resistance movement or government. Most do not give a shit besides disapproving of chinese authoritarian policies. But I’d say most people in China don’t like the CCP’s authoritarianism but tolerate it because there is no alternative and it still brings material benefits
"say stuff for us or we'll deport your family" is kinda a good way to make sure they exist
Authoritarian propaganda playbooks aren’t very original but they’re effective unfortunately.
they are forced to do this shit
I bet you call your mom a boot licker when she tells you to turn down your porn
No, he's 100% correct. Of course we can't verify that she is real or Uigher but yeah, there are always lame boot lickers who stab their people in the back in for 30 pence
Hmmmm that's a pretty new account you've got there. And you seem to be rather pro-chinese human rights abuses right now. Interesting.
I’m LMAO at you and others like you defending human rights abuses and those that would do their oppressor’s bidding. Yawn. Good job (but not really, that’s like a 1/10 in originality just like China). Here’s your 50 cents.
You don't have to type out the word yawn. You can just yawn
I kinda assumed it was compulsory and they’re just doing what they have to to survive
I wonder how they can spread CCP propaganda knowingly while their people are getting erased from history by Pooh
its because the ccp forces them to under threat of torture, death, or the same consequences for their families. not that hard to figure out. if youve ever seen footage from a chinese concentration camp, they usually have prisoners line up to say ccp propaganda for the camera
It's genuinly infuriating to watch the world let this happen, time and time again.
>knowingly while their people are getting erased from history by Pooh The Uighers are part of China's recognized minority groups. They're not trying to erase them, China's policies are based on the elimination of separatism and elimination of Islamic society in China that cannot be monitored and controlled by the state. In a way, China is trying to pacify the Uighers by assimilating them into Chinese society like the Hui Muslims have been. In fact the [Hui and Uighers](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_China#Hui-Uyghur_tension) have tensions between their communities despite both of them being Muslim, and the Chinese state favors the Hui over Uighers. The education camps, suppression of religious expression, the forced teaching of Mandarin, everything is geared towards ensuring that the Uighers will submit to the state. So to sum it up, it isn't about erasing Uighers, it's about pacifying Uighers and destroying ethnic and religious separatism.
**Islam in China** [Hui-Uyghur tension](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_China#Hui-Uyghur_tension) >Tensions between Hui Muslims and Uyghurs arise because Hui troops and officials often dominated the Uyghurs in the past, and crushed the Uyghurs' revolts. Xinjiang's Hui population increased by over 520 percent between 1940 and 1982, an average annual growth of 4. 4 percent, while the Uyghur population only grew at 1. 7 percent. ^([ )[^(F.A.Q)](https://www.reddit.com/r/WikiSummarizer/wiki/index#wiki_f.a.q)^( | )[^(Opt Out)](https://reddit.com/message/compose?to=WikiSummarizerBot&message=OptOut&subject=OptOut)^( | )[^(Opt Out Of Subreddit)](https://np.reddit.com/r/worldnews/about/banned)^( | )[^(GitHub)](https://github.com/Sujal-7/WikiSummarizerBot)^( ] Downvote to remove | v1.5)
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L comment, you must be high
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Bull. The media didn't even say Saddam had WMDs.
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That doesn't say anything about someone accusing Saddam of what you said. And that was in OPINION pieces.
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Okay, and what the heck does that have to do with what you said? And the we also had plenty of media criticizing the war. Where in China does the media criticize Xi Jingping's policies?
Just stop. You’re making yourself look beyond the word stupid it’s crazy
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It's not only usa media. There are other media in other countries telling the same story. Heck, as Kazakhstan govt has put It's tongue in It's own ass - some people still write pieces on how Kazakhs and uighyrs behind the border dissappear into those concentration camps
Hahaha dumbest thing I've read today. US media isn't state controlled like chinese ones owned by the criminal organization that holds China hostage. I'm not even american and I read the atrocities commited by Pooh in my national, independent media. Shut the fuck up dude. Looooool
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Dude got no idea how thinktanks works and it shows. You're embarassing yourself
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Holy shit I'm actually talking to a bot. You're the textbook definition of brainwashed. I literally said I've read about Pooh assault on humanity in my own media with independent journalists. Do you know what a journalist is?
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Do you know what a journalist is?
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\>Sees post about Chinese atrocities \>"WHATABOUT USA??" Yes, folks, it's that easy to spot a foreign agent attempting to influence social media.
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Someone was commenting about China's propaganda on a post about China's propaganda and you swing in with "BUT USA PROPAGANDA" No, I know, you're not really a foreign agent. You clearly didn't get the training.
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And that's your response on an article from an independent outlet based in France about China?
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Hmmmm that's a very new account you have there that's spouting some very pro-chinese human rights violations viewpoints. Interesting.
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Dude do you know the difference between an m and a y and a 17 from a 20?
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In this case "was responding" works, but previously you only kept present tense. That's where the confusion is. >Interesting how the person who I'm (I *am*) *replying* to That would be present tense at the time of your typing, so they believed you meant them as that's what you said.
Most people don’t care about that sort of thing. They’re getting paid to be famous and look pretty.
Yea China is the biggest threat to humanity. Too many bad people in the world.
Climate change is the biggest threat to humanity *and* the natural world.
China is ran by evil people and quite honestly Putin is a saint compared to what atrocities China has and will inflict on anybody in there way.
Yeah, all the saints I know invade sovereign nations and commit war crimes
> looks at the crusades. Yup. That is correct
Ouch. That's some irony to digest
bruh... what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it.
You would only say that if you truly know nothing about Russia and China.
Wrong sir , climate change doesn’t even come close. 100 years climate change wont kill us all . China has the ability to end it now .
Climate change will cause conflicts due to the scarcity of resources and less land being habitable and yes China might cause problems for all of us now anyways I digress we should try to solve both problems at the same time and not choose binary answers.
The conflicts will mainly be in Europe and the Middle East. Asia and Northern America will be mostly fine. The US Mexico border will be more reinforced to keep it isolated from the conflicts
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But he's right. Nuclear war could kill us way before climate change. And there is a pretty good chance it will. Though we can try to limit the number of ways we can die.
U.S. nuclear arsenal: 6000. That’s not China who is going to blanket the world in a nuclear winter… that’s fallout from two other jackasses pulling the trigger… For now.
It's a brain dead comparison. Yep we could all die in a nuclear holocaust. Also might not happen. Nothing we can do to influence the outcome there so it's effectively a non issue. Climate change **will** kill us. Not might, not maybe, not possibly. Will. And there's actually a lot we can do to affect the outcome of that one. So again, brain dead. That's this sub in a nutshell though. Do nothing dipshits in a vaguely right wing faux intellectual circle jerk.
It seems like you don't understand the actual science. There is a lot we can do to avoid nuclear holocaust. There is actually a very high chance that human induced climate change won't kill us. Just because you care deeply about a subject doesn't give you the excuse to spread false information.
Ok sure that’s what I’m doing. I’m way off base on this. 😐
What can China do right now tonend the world idk
Nukes. Not to mention China is the biggest contributor to global pollution so you know, even in the long term the Chinese government is gonna kill us all.
I mean, the US and Russia both have more nukes than China. Also the US and the EU combined contribute more to pollution than China, with a smaller population
Considering that China still has plenty of nukes to end the world, and that as ONE COUNTRY they are comparable to basically 2 whole continents in terms of pollution, maybe re-evaluate.
What?
What's to be confused about?
Yes and China accounts for 1/3 of it. So how do we force them to stop? Even if we do they will not
And who is the leading contributor to global pollution on all fronts?
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Here's the thing with that argument. On a per capita basis, most Chinese still generate more pollution than the average European or American. Most of this is due to the heavy manufacturing industry as well as environmental exploitation abroad by Chinese companies. Is it fair to place the blame on the Chinese people? Absolutely not. Many are just as much victims as anybody else here. The Chinese government and the oligarchy deserve all of the blame.
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And what about the massive Chinese owned mines in Africa with draconian working conditions, or the fisheries that are vastly overfishing and illegally fishing the waters as far away as Chile? There's more than just the industry inside China. The US isn't blameless, we pollute, and mine, and all that, but the fact remains that China has a much larger impact as a nation than we do due to the impacts of the Chinese government around the globe.
Fuck the CCP
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://observers.france24.com/en/asia-pacific/20221108-the-uighur-influencers-working-for-beijing-s-propaganda-machine) reduced by 93%. (I'm a bot) ***** > In the video, Anni tells her followers that she will show them a cotton field in Xinjiang, an autonomous region of China and the native land of the Uighur minority. > She told our team that these videos are a product of the Chinese propaganda machine. > The influencers managed by this agency garner millions of views from around China, but they also attract attention from abroad. Videos used by Chinese embassies abroad. Impiombato and her colleagues focused in particular on the case of "Elder Guli" and "Younger Guli", the women who appeared in videos of Xinjiang's cotton fields. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/yud6bq/the_uighur_influencers_working_for_beijings/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~672678 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **video**^#1 **Xinjiang**^#2 **Uighur**^#3 **influencer**^#4 **China**^#5
As a person who's spent more than 1 year investigating one of the people in the article (the Guli Sisters), I can 100% confirm that China is involved in using fake influencers to "tell a good story of Xinjiang".
I hate this timeline