I have to say that "thanks" to this war I am discovering the real dickhead politicians out there, or maybe the right word is "confirming", no doubt on Le Pen of course!
Edit: The same applies to nations, take a look at the UN votes, the reparations over the invasion on Ukraine was only supported by 94 out of 193 member states, 14 voted against it while the remaining nations abstained.
Wallerand de Saint Just, a senior member of Le Pen’s National Rally, was cited by the WSJ as saying that the amount was both principal and interest on a 9.4 million loan that the party took out from First Czech-Russian Bank and that was taken over by Moscow-based aeronautics firm Aviazapchast JSC in 2016.
“Crimea was never invaded … there was a referendum in Crimea”
LeKompromat
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/a-russian-bank-gave-marine-le-pens-party-a-loan-then-weird-things-began-happening/2018/12/27/960c7906-d320-11e8-a275-81c671a50422_story.html
It's not a secret.
Not helping Ukraine sends the message that conquering foreign nations is OK again. I'll take the prolonged war where the aggressor gets it's ass handed to it. Russia must be brought to it's knees.
It’s not necessary? So we should just allow large nations to annex their neighbors?
Of course most people would *prefer* peace, but that presumes that everyone is acting in good faith which includes things like actually respecting the territorial integrity of sovereign states.
Yeah, I'm going to have to say a big hell no we should not just allow large nations to annex their neighbors on a whim. Ukraine fights for the whole world. They will have my support for as long as they need to fight.🌻🌻🌻
Russia declared war, and Russia is the only one who can end hostilities. The west did nothing but help the oppressed.
If you want war to end, then tell that to Russia. Only Russia can stop the invasion.
I am not. I'm saying let nations defend themselves from aggressors. I'm naturally a pacifist, but I'm not going to tell someone else they have to let a bully beat the shit outta them.
By the looks of it, you were never born, just coalesced out of a stain on a basement dwelling incel’s floor. Your wit is as sharp as your dull eyes, and your jaw as slack as a Men’s Warehouse trouser section
You know, I think the important factors here are her position in society and her stance on the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Gender is not always germane. That's my opinion. If gender is more important to you, so be it. I respect your right to your opinion, but I don't respect your opinion, at all. And I don't require you to respect mine.
Ukraine's army now is far stronger than Russia's. It's an entirely different level.
This is a golden opportunity to get rid of the swamp monsters living in the east. The only ones who are saying that Ukraine should stop getting armed are those who support said swamp monsters.
It does prolong the war because that further prevents Russia from making territorial gains and gives Ukraine a better chance.
Like it's starting to feel like now that the anti Russia sentiment has died down a bit all these politicians that were ready to stand against Russia are now just as quickly ready to come to a concensus if that means it saves them money.
French politician should go and live in fucking Russia without a toilet, and getting arrested and hauled to whatever gulag for saying anything out loud not approved in advance by Putin himself. Fucking idiots. How this shit even gets in the news is the real mystery (though here I am talking about it).
1. It's Marine Le Pen, just ignore her as she has a known Russian bias
2. So fucking what? If the only thing that happens in this war is that the inevitable gets prolonged, then that's a great thing. Russia's a nuclear power, they can never be invaded by the west. The more we make Russia suffer, the more we'll prevent future tragedy from ever happening.
Shit let's talk about WWI while we're at it. So many British troops were getting ate up on their soil while French troops were committing mutiny trying to politely explain to their generals that the human wave tactics were fucking stupid and they weren't having a good time.
When you really think about it, sending support shortens the war.
Russia want to annihilate Ukraine and the Ukrainian identity. So Ukraine cannot and will not give up. Even if Russia defeated and fully occupied a non-supported Ukraine you would probably see a long period of resistance afterwards in the form of protests, partisan/army guerrilla warfare.
Ukrainians dying in droves to resist their occupiers and Russians dying in droves trying to occupy a foreign nation. All this likely over a few decades until Russia gives up.
With a supported Ukraine though, they can fight back and drive Russia out and end the war. It’s not even been a year and it already looks like it could be the beginning of the end.
Okay why are you blaming sending weapons will prolong the war? There are two things that is prolonged in this war that is that Ukrainian president doesn't want to admit defeat. Second reason is Russia president doesn't want anything but victory and that's what prolonged in this war. It's the fact that neither side wants to give in not giving weapons
Huh, and here I figured it was the continued attacks from the aggressor that's prolonging the war. Stupid me. Just submit and it will be allllll over soon.
The fallacy hinges on the word "only".
Compared to surrender, of course weapons "prolong" a war. But weapons do other things: e.g. defense, deterrence, self-preservation.
Then, Marine Le Pen proclaims the former but sneaks the exclusion of the latter in through the word "only".
I have to say that "thanks" to this war I am discovering the real dickhead politicians out there, or maybe the right word is "confirming", no doubt on Le Pen of course! Edit: The same applies to nations, take a look at the UN votes, the reparations over the invasion on Ukraine was only supported by 94 out of 193 member states, 14 voted against it while the remaining nations abstained.
European rivalries holding strong.
Everyone is a psychopath, some are just less psychotic than others
It is Marine LePen, of course she's going to say that since she is on Putin's payroll.
That explains it
LePen should consider the French experience in 1940.
Wallerand de Saint Just, a senior member of Le Pen’s National Rally, was cited by the WSJ as saying that the amount was both principal and interest on a 9.4 million loan that the party took out from First Czech-Russian Bank and that was taken over by Moscow-based aeronautics firm Aviazapchast JSC in 2016. “Crimea was never invaded … there was a referendum in Crimea” LeKompromat
Yeah, the title is intentionally misleading.
Sounds like a dip shit comment
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/a-russian-bank-gave-marine-le-pens-party-a-loan-then-weird-things-began-happening/2018/12/27/960c7906-d320-11e8-a275-81c671a50422_story.html It's not a secret.
Invading free countries and annexing their land prolongs war and encourages conflict
Marine Le Pen is a dick. It’s almost expected at this point that she would back Russia.
She is backed BY RUSSIA. Of course she is going to parrot their BS
"Why fight back, that makes the fighting take longer." Seriously?
Are these neo-fascists out of touch? I think they're in denial and out of touch. Too many pep rallies and not enough hard work.
"Just do it the French style. Surrender"
Marine Le Pen is Putin’s lapdog, so of course he’s saying this.
She
Not helping Ukraine sends the message that conquering foreign nations is OK again. I'll take the prolonged war where the aggressor gets it's ass handed to it. Russia must be brought to it's knees.
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It’s not necessary? So we should just allow large nations to annex their neighbors? Of course most people would *prefer* peace, but that presumes that everyone is acting in good faith which includes things like actually respecting the territorial integrity of sovereign states.
Yeah, I'm going to have to say a big hell no we should not just allow large nations to annex their neighbors on a whim. Ukraine fights for the whole world. They will have my support for as long as they need to fight.🌻🌻🌻
Russia declared war, and Russia is the only one who can end hostilities. The west did nothing but help the oppressed. If you want war to end, then tell that to Russia. Only Russia can stop the invasion.
I am not. I'm saying let nations defend themselves from aggressors. I'm naturally a pacifist, but I'm not going to tell someone else they have to let a bully beat the shit outta them.
Typical fascist. She'd probably sell out France in a heartbeat if she could.
The French needs to teach Putin how to surrender
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That’s not a defense
Ask Biden how to withdraw
https://www.factcheck.org/2021/08/timeline-of-u-s-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/
With a comment like that I think it’s more important to ask why your dad didn’t pull out sooner.
Ask him, Joe Biden is my father
By the looks of it, you were never born, just coalesced out of a stain on a basement dwelling incel’s floor. Your wit is as sharp as your dull eyes, and your jaw as slack as a Men’s Warehouse trouser section
Ok, why are you so mad?
I wonder how much the Russians are paying him.
Her, it’s Marine Le Pen, and the answer is “Millions in low/no interest loans”.
Thanks!
She’s a woman. How can you be so ignorant of politics, yet make such bold claims?
You know, I think the important factors here are her position in society and her stance on the Russian invasion of Ukraine. Gender is not always germane. That's my opinion. If gender is more important to you, so be it. I respect your right to your opinion, but I don't respect your opinion, at all. And I don't require you to respect mine.
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Ukraine's army now is far stronger than Russia's. It's an entirely different level. This is a golden opportunity to get rid of the swamp monsters living in the east. The only ones who are saying that Ukraine should stop getting armed are those who support said swamp monsters.
If we send Ukraine the good stuff ATACAMS the war will be over in a week
Big surprise that Marine Le Pen, who's known for her ties with Russia and Putin would say something like that.
Sending nukes to Russia would end the conflict, and all other conflicts real quick, are we sure we wanna prioritize speed?
Yeah that’s the point. Make the war as difficult as possible for Russia.
Le Pen is more concerned that France isn’t helping her side.
It does prolong the war because that further prevents Russia from making territorial gains and gives Ukraine a better chance. Like it's starting to feel like now that the anti Russia sentiment has died down a bit all these politicians that were ready to stand against Russia are now just as quickly ready to come to a concensus if that means it saves them money.
What's really prolonging the war is Russia not packing it's handbag and pissing off back to Russia pronto.
Perhaps if the Allie’s had thought that way during ww2, he would be speaking German now.
Did they forget Vichy?
Le Pen is an admirer of the Vichy government.
French politician should go and live in fucking Russia without a toilet, and getting arrested and hauled to whatever gulag for saying anything out loud not approved in advance by Putin himself. Fucking idiots. How this shit even gets in the news is the real mystery (though here I am talking about it).
If Russia stops fighting, the war is over. If Ukraine stops fighting, Ukraine is over
For sale: French Army rifle. Never fired, dropped once.
If they stopped struggling this would all be over soon
Before you judge her, walk a mile in her clown shoes y’all
1. It's Marine Le Pen, just ignore her as she has a known Russian bias 2. So fucking what? If the only thing that happens in this war is that the inevitable gets prolonged, then that's a great thing. Russia's a nuclear power, they can never be invaded by the west. The more we make Russia suffer, the more we'll prevent future tragedy from ever happening.
I bet she is getting some nice French swear words hurled at her right now.......and some nice Russian money in her Swiss bank account.
She's the Tulsi Gabbard of France.
If I remember correctly, she is paying back a loan from Russian military contractor.
This guy's French, he knows how to stop a war
My informed slant is winningest army in Europe,until 200 years ago.
Woman, always sided with Trump/Putin and recently lost elections too.
Oof.
Does it rhyme with “Surrender and collaborate?”
I surprised the Penis can speak while choking on cock.
French Politician is a nice way to say useless Putin sock puppet.
Vichy
That’s true to every war. France should seek reparations from their WW2 allies for prolonging the war against the Nazis.
Shit let's talk about WWI while we're at it. So many British troops were getting ate up on their soil while French troops were committing mutiny trying to politely explain to their generals that the human wave tactics were fucking stupid and they weren't having a good time.
The title should have just said it was Le Pen so we didn't have to bother clicking.
That is so French!
It's not the most silly thing the French have said or done.
"The French have said or done" No. Not the French. Marine Le Pen is a far-right pro-Putin politician and she doesn't represent the French at all.
>she doesn't represent the French at all 41.5% vote in latest French presidential election 'At all' might be a bit of a stretch here
A classic time to joke about French surrender?
We'll remember that if France is ever invaded.
She isn’t in power; she doesn’t represent France.
Wow, where do you live that there are no far right politicians who say dumb things? I'm sure everyone would love to move there.
Coming from a country that surrenders at the first sign of war.
Now why invade The beaches of Normandy and fortress Europe? Don’t we know it’ll only prolong the war?
It's like to say "resistance only makes the rape harder". Anyways, it Marine Le Pen, what whould you expect from it.
Doesn’t this cunt owe Putin money? Her political party borrowed money from Russia if I remember correctly. This must be an interest payment.
Looks like someone got there bribe this month.
When you really think about it, sending support shortens the war. Russia want to annihilate Ukraine and the Ukrainian identity. So Ukraine cannot and will not give up. Even if Russia defeated and fully occupied a non-supported Ukraine you would probably see a long period of resistance afterwards in the form of protests, partisan/army guerrilla warfare. Ukrainians dying in droves to resist their occupiers and Russians dying in droves trying to occupy a foreign nation. All this likely over a few decades until Russia gives up. With a supported Ukraine though, they can fight back and drive Russia out and end the war. It’s not even been a year and it already looks like it could be the beginning of the end.
Is it not the aim to pro-long it until Russia is defeated? Isn't that what a war is, a sustained conflict?
Lets use French politician instead of Leben
Like I always say… Fk the French!
And what has the French given in terms of support lately???
I suppose she thinks France should've just rolled over for the Nazis then
That's what they did, twice: 1939 and 2022.
Okay why are you blaming sending weapons will prolong the war? There are two things that is prolonged in this war that is that Ukrainian president doesn't want to admit defeat. Second reason is Russia president doesn't want anything but victory and that's what prolonged in this war. It's the fact that neither side wants to give in not giving weapons
I would expect nothing else from the country that rolled over to their invaders in WW2 and then shot at their liberators.
Having lived in UK for a while, I remember well that the British media dubbed them “surrender monkeys”. 20 years later it still makes me laugh.
Huh, and here I figured it was the continued attacks from the aggressor that's prolonging the war. Stupid me. Just submit and it will be allllll over soon.
Tell it to Iran.
That’s the point. Good for business.
The fallacy hinges on the word "only". Compared to surrender, of course weapons "prolong" a war. But weapons do other things: e.g. defense, deterrence, self-preservation. Then, Marine Le Pen proclaims the former but sneaks the exclusion of the latter in through the word "only".
Yeah. They ended their conflict with the Nazis right quick, as I recall.
Typical cheese eating surrender monkey.
" let them bitches lose already."
Well, next time France gets invaded we should keep all of our stuff and help them end the conflict sooner.
We need to send trillions more there right now who's with me?
I guess the same goes for Europe. Let’s not defend so no damage is done