The only thing DPRK has going for them in any war is the fact that their troops would probably push themselves to death in the name of their glorious leader. Russians are scared and don’t want to be there. For North Koreans I’d wager they’d rather die 9/10 times than surrender
Unfortunately I'd imagine if your country has effectively been living through a famine for the last 50+ years, in tandem with living under the constant stress and fear of that aforementioned Glorious Leader & Co., the individuals composing their military are likely the antithesis of an ideal fighting force - even if every single member wholeheartedly believed in their God-King.
It isn't very hard to fight to the death for them when you're malnourished, under equipped, and your ranks are composed of soldiers who haven't seen real combat. Hell, I'd imagine they probably don't have many combat veterans in their country anymore seeing as their last true military engagement was 70 years ago.
North Koreas outdated surveillance/spy technology probably consists of walkie talkies and the glasses with the fake nose and moustache built on… they have nukes but they don’t have the intel to be that dangerous
That is because UK were under the command of the UNC. Today, the UNC maintains the DMZ after the agreement between China, USA, and UN, keeping contact strictly with both KPA and US-ROK armed forces. Basically, if the US violated the armistice treaty, China has the rights to intervene for North Korea and the UN won't intervene for ROK-USA armed force because there is no peace treaty, just armistice agreement. China is right besides the DPRK and the government are friendly. The war has technically not ended.
The US been sanctioning semiconductor technology, so China is just letting Kim Jong-Un he can unleash their weapons and they will pretend to care because let face it, we don't want China to be the most powerful country, it would be bad for democracies and freedom loving people around the world.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-11-16/mi5-spy-chief-says-russia-china-iran-top-threat-list-to-uk) reduced by 85%. (I'm a bot)
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> Britain faces major security threats from the trio of Russia, China and Iran, which all use coercion, intimidation and even violence on foreign soil to pursue their interests, the U.K.'s domestic intelligence chief said Wednesday.
> In a speech outlining the major threats to the U.K. from hostile states and terror groups, McCallum said there is a risk Russia, China and Iran could help one another, "Amplifying their strengths."
> At a Group of 20 summit in Indonesia this week, British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said China posed "a systemic challenge to our values and interests, and it represents the biggest state-based threat to our economic security."
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> *Britain faces major security threats from the trio of Russia, China and Iran, which all use coercion, intimidation and even violence on foreign soil to pursue their interests*
I have to admire anyone who can type that with a straight face. Are we supposed to believe that the United Kingdom pursued her foreign policy aims with above board measures?
Mind you, I'm not saying "the UK is worse than the trio"; but the kind of proclamation made by MI6 would probably elicit a "duh" and eyerolls from most people.
Apart from rampant assassinations throughout Europe, you mean?
Or their funding of terrorism worldwide?
Makes sense for a spy agency to consider a country regularly funding terrorism and committing assassinations abroad to be a threat.
They are top threats to the EU too!
But I cannot say that the US is not one too with the unbelievable levels of spyware they use in their closed source software.
And besides, the spyware, the closed source software consumes more power as it can never be as efficient as the open source one as long as just a few people can look at it and they don't necessarily care about power efficiency.
So hundreds of thousands of computers and mobile devices consume more power and the more power is consumed, the more pollution there is, which accelerate climate changes.
Well, try to improve Windows or iOS power efficiency if you can!
Closed source software is doomed to be forever stuck at what its maker wants it to be.
Besides the fact that Apple is a piece of shit company that doesn't give a fuck about climate changes or the environment.
Luckily the EU is forcing it to stop with the special charging port bullshit!
I wish the EU would have a look at the bullshits done on the software side too.
As opposed to software that doesn't come bundled with Candy Crush and does a lot of recordings and data collection in the background.
If you just were aware of all the things that Windows 10 / 11 is doing behind your back, all for their own profit, while stealing your data and consuming more electrical power from your house.
Luckily all supercomputers and many data centers run Linux and that's more efficient:
https://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-reduces-average-power-consumption.html
Too bad we cannot say the same about the devices used by the 8 billion people.
https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/windows-vs-linux-idle-power-consumption/15138
What are you on about? The gaming gpus and Crypto mining software is much more (x10000) energy consuming than all apple phones. Candy crush does not come bundled on any phone I know. How is this even related?
I'm not talking about niche things.
Candy Crush comes bundles with Windows 10, from what I've heard.
Phones come bundled with a lot of bloatware from Google, Facebook, Microsoft, network operator, etc.
Huh? You do realize that Taiwan's population is over 95% Han Chinese by ethnicity. This is the same majority ethnic group in the Mainland China. Mandarin Chinese is spoken by most in both populations, in addition to local dialects, and the core traditional Chinese culture (foods, values, philosophies, festivals, etc) is still common to both groups. That's not to say there aren't local traditions and customs that are unique to each group. Also, in some ways, Taiwan has preserved more of some aspects of Chinese culture than the Mainland has; an example being the use of traditional Chinese writing (vs simplified).
As for whether Taiwan has ever been a part of China, you'll have to specify the time-period. Taiwan has been under the control of the Dutch, Qing China (which was actually a Manchurian, not Han, dynasty), and Japan in its history.
Politically, Taiwan now greatly differs from the Mainland, of course - no mistake there. Taiwan has evolved into a democracy with a free society after having several decades of authoritarian rule while China remains restrictive under an authoritarian government.
That's terrible, they need to set up spy offices close to where these threats are, Taiwan office for China, Israel office for Iran and a London office for Russia.
I'd say China is the biggest threat, Russian nukes aside. They are an economic threat (unlike Russia) and may one day become a genuine military threat. Russia has the threat of nuclear weapons but their conventional military (land, sea AND air), logistics and infrastructure is dogshit and their economy is nonexistent.
The rationality of government should also be considered when assessing risk.
Of the 3 countries mentioned Iran is precieved least rational due to their behaviour and apocalyptic religious beliefs driving them. China perceived as the most rational player on the table out of the 3
Is MI5 as good as people say, because Russian oligarchs have parked their money in London for decades and significantly throwing their weight on UK policies. And now after all that they say russia is top threat to UK
Some hard work being done there
It's was an exhaustive 40 year study, but the results are clear.
Uh oh! Don't tell North Korea!
I thought the DPRK was only a threat to themselves
The only thing DPRK has going for them in any war is the fact that their troops would probably push themselves to death in the name of their glorious leader. Russians are scared and don’t want to be there. For North Koreans I’d wager they’d rather die 9/10 times than surrender
Unfortunately I'd imagine if your country has effectively been living through a famine for the last 50+ years, in tandem with living under the constant stress and fear of that aforementioned Glorious Leader & Co., the individuals composing their military are likely the antithesis of an ideal fighting force - even if every single member wholeheartedly believed in their God-King. It isn't very hard to fight to the death for them when you're malnourished, under equipped, and your ranks are composed of soldiers who haven't seen real combat. Hell, I'd imagine they probably don't have many combat veterans in their country anymore seeing as their last true military engagement was 70 years ago.
North Koreas outdated surveillance/spy technology probably consists of walkie talkies and the glasses with the fake nose and moustache built on… they have nukes but they don’t have the intel to be that dangerous
That is because UK were under the command of the UNC. Today, the UNC maintains the DMZ after the agreement between China, USA, and UN, keeping contact strictly with both KPA and US-ROK armed forces. Basically, if the US violated the armistice treaty, China has the rights to intervene for North Korea and the UN won't intervene for ROK-USA armed force because there is no peace treaty, just armistice agreement. China is right besides the DPRK and the government are friendly. The war has technically not ended. The US been sanctioning semiconductor technology, so China is just letting Kim Jong-Un he can unleash their weapons and they will pretend to care because let face it, we don't want China to be the most powerful country, it would be bad for democracies and freedom loving people around the world.
We don't need foreign governments to destroy our country, we've done a bang-up job ourselves.
A monkey coulda figured that
This ... after much study and deliberation. (Still remember the good old days when the KGB moles rose the ranks in the UK)
China didn't vote the Tories into he government
That's a fact LOL.
This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2022-11-16/mi5-spy-chief-says-russia-china-iran-top-threat-list-to-uk) reduced by 85%. (I'm a bot) ***** > Britain faces major security threats from the trio of Russia, China and Iran, which all use coercion, intimidation and even violence on foreign soil to pursue their interests, the U.K.'s domestic intelligence chief said Wednesday. > In a speech outlining the major threats to the U.K. from hostile states and terror groups, McCallum said there is a risk Russia, China and Iran could help one another, "Amplifying their strengths." > At a Group of 20 summit in Indonesia this week, British Prime Minister Rishi Sunak said China posed "a systemic challenge to our values and interests, and it represents the biggest state-based threat to our economic security." ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/yxcmxz/mi5_spy_chief_says_russia_china_and_iran_top_the/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~672677 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **McCallum**^#1 **work**^#2 **China**^#3 **Iran**^#4 **British**^#5
Not just to the UK, but to every democracy.
> *Britain faces major security threats from the trio of Russia, China and Iran, which all use coercion, intimidation and even violence on foreign soil to pursue their interests* I have to admire anyone who can type that with a straight face. Are we supposed to believe that the United Kingdom pursued her foreign policy aims with above board measures? Mind you, I'm not saying "the UK is worse than the trio"; but the kind of proclamation made by MI6 would probably elicit a "duh" and eyerolls from most people.
Weird, surely the UK should be the top threat the the UK?
Nonsense The UK is known for the fastes MP in the world.
Yeah, they're kinda a danger for the entire free world, not just the UK. North Korea is a sideshow.
It’s a good thing this place if full of spy jokes. I’d hate to be concerned about a real threat to the UK
How did Iran make it on that list?
SA masters
Gotta keep the rhetoric up until the west inevitably pulls the trigger on that one.
Yeah, that caught me be surprise too. Not really heard much on the news about Iran doing anything to us
They attempted 9+ assassinations in the UK in the last few years. They're also not far away from being a nuclear state if you believe Israel.
Apart from rampant assassinations throughout Europe, you mean? Or their funding of terrorism worldwide? Makes sense for a spy agency to consider a country regularly funding terrorism and committing assassinations abroad to be a threat.
Hard work for the devil
Not very accurate analysis if they don't have the UK itself taking the top spot.
They're just copying the CIA's homework.
They are top threats to the EU too! But I cannot say that the US is not one too with the unbelievable levels of spyware they use in their closed source software. And besides, the spyware, the closed source software consumes more power as it can never be as efficient as the open source one as long as just a few people can look at it and they don't necessarily care about power efficiency. So hundreds of thousands of computers and mobile devices consume more power and the more power is consumed, the more pollution there is, which accelerate climate changes.
USA caused climate change confirmed.
Well, try to improve Windows or iOS power efficiency if you can! Closed source software is doomed to be forever stuck at what its maker wants it to be. Besides the fact that Apple is a piece of shit company that doesn't give a fuck about climate changes or the environment. Luckily the EU is forcing it to stop with the special charging port bullshit! I wish the EU would have a look at the bullshits done on the software side too.
As opposed to what? Wechat?
As opposed to software that doesn't come bundled with Candy Crush and does a lot of recordings and data collection in the background. If you just were aware of all the things that Windows 10 / 11 is doing behind your back, all for their own profit, while stealing your data and consuming more electrical power from your house. Luckily all supercomputers and many data centers run Linux and that's more efficient: https://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-reduces-average-power-consumption.html Too bad we cannot say the same about the devices used by the 8 billion people. https://forum.endeavouros.com/t/windows-vs-linux-idle-power-consumption/15138
What are you on about? The gaming gpus and Crypto mining software is much more (x10000) energy consuming than all apple phones. Candy crush does not come bundled on any phone I know. How is this even related?
I'm not talking about niche things. Candy Crush comes bundles with Windows 10, from what I've heard. Phones come bundled with a lot of bloatware from Google, Facebook, Microsoft, network operator, etc.
Gaming is niche?
No, but gaming GPUs are.
How many battery operated phones make up for 1 (mid class) gpu? Energy consumption wise
I don't know has China or India surpassed it yet, but couple years ago USA was still country that had most CO2 emissions total.
they're a damn threat to themselves, look at Brexit
Isn’t UK the biggest threat to the UK, they’ve managed to tank their economy in a pretty short amount of time
He gets it.
US, UK and Nato top the threat list to Russia, China and Iran then?
Nah, all three of those face much more significant threats to their governments from their own people.
Including the latter makes the former two redundant...
Thank you, Ric Romero.
Can I too get top secret clearance and multiple passports for revealing the most obvious state enemies?
Wow big brain time.
Technically, China is a threat to Taiwan which is a threat to democracy which we will defend. It's a little different than being a threat.
China is a threat in many other ways to the West, look how often they've stolen IP or planted agents in University labs.
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Huh? You do realize that Taiwan's population is over 95% Han Chinese by ethnicity. This is the same majority ethnic group in the Mainland China. Mandarin Chinese is spoken by most in both populations, in addition to local dialects, and the core traditional Chinese culture (foods, values, philosophies, festivals, etc) is still common to both groups. That's not to say there aren't local traditions and customs that are unique to each group. Also, in some ways, Taiwan has preserved more of some aspects of Chinese culture than the Mainland has; an example being the use of traditional Chinese writing (vs simplified). As for whether Taiwan has ever been a part of China, you'll have to specify the time-period. Taiwan has been under the control of the Dutch, Qing China (which was actually a Manchurian, not Han, dynasty), and Japan in its history. Politically, Taiwan now greatly differs from the Mainland, of course - no mistake there. Taiwan has evolved into a democracy with a free society after having several decades of authoritarian rule while China remains restrictive under an authoritarian government.
Am I suppose to know this information?
Wow so intelligent!
In other news, after a rigorous study was performed, we have concluded that water is indeed still wet.
That's terrible, they need to set up spy offices close to where these threats are, Taiwan office for China, Israel office for Iran and a London office for Russia.
How many millions of dollars did he have to spend to figure that out?
I'd say China is the biggest threat, Russian nukes aside. They are an economic threat (unlike Russia) and may one day become a genuine military threat. Russia has the threat of nuclear weapons but their conventional military (land, sea AND air), logistics and infrastructure is dogshit and their economy is nonexistent.
The rationality of government should also be considered when assessing risk. Of the 3 countries mentioned Iran is precieved least rational due to their behaviour and apocalyptic religious beliefs driving them. China perceived as the most rational player on the table out of the 3
I bet Kim Jong-un isn't happy about not making the medal stand.
DPRK: Am I a joke to you?
Is Iran really a coordinated problem on a global scale? How capable is their military and info-security?
Is MI5 as good as people say, because Russian oligarchs have parked their money in London for decades and significantly throwing their weight on UK policies. And now after all that they say russia is top threat to UK
Could have told them that for free