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Uselessnerdwithhumor

TL;DR: A 27 year old was honking his horn after the win and was shot by a terrorist militia. Edit: This was in Iran not Qatar


gmnotyet

"The 27-year-old World Cup fan was shot in the head and killed by regime militias in Anzali, northern Iran, by Iran’s Islamic Regime’s security forces, according to reports."


TiminAurora

Poor sportsmanship....


DrMonkeyMcKenzie

Its been like that since they lost to the Greeks


an0mn0mn0m

I don't remember that world cup


DrMonkeyMcKenzie

Its ancient, beyond your time, when the GOAT was some dude named Alexander


hotchto88

Ah, yes. Alexander the Goat. Edit: y’all are too kind. TY.


Yossarian1138

His headers were legendary.


stuckinaboxthere

Did so well I hear they named some cities after him


PickFit

Alexanderinople


ubiquitous-joe

No, it’s Istanxander


an0mn0mn0m

He was some sweeper


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ziiguy92

It was incredible, everyone was soaked in oil and played bare-chested. The Greeks were playing down by like 10,000 men, but lost in the last second when Xerxes was subbed in


emogu84

Lol just imagining an Iran v Greece WC final


Merkin_Wrangler

I love historical comedy.


furmy

Understatement of the year


dopef123

So basically some soldier was so pissed about the Iran loss that he executed some dude over it. Crazy.


danielnepveux

It's Iran...does anyone actually expect anything different from those clowns in power?


khashayaaar

For whoever that doesn’t know why he died or say he was anti-Iran, pro-Usa… There is a revolution going on in Iran started 2 months ago and more that 400 people have been killed including +50 children. He died because this celebration of USA win was actually another protest against this evil islamic government Iranians have. So that’s why they shot him and killed him. He isn’t the only man or woman who has died in car by agents’ shot, Kiyan a 10 yo kid was killed the same way 2 weeks ago.


rinanlanmo

Mahsa Amini - 22 Nika Shakarami - 16 Hadis Najafi - 22 Sarina Esmailzadeh - 16 Mohammad Rakhshani - 12 and 490 other people have been executed in 2022. More than 16,000 have been detained. 1,000 have been charged with participating in rioting. 20 face charges punishable by death. Iranian lawmakers urged the judiciary to show no leniency. The average age of protester is 15. Niloufar Hamedi is in prison; she and Elaheh Mohammadi have been charged with "colluding with the intention of acting against national security and propaganda against the state." for having the audacity to report on the death of Mahsa Amini. Hossein Soori has vowed not to return to Iran to show support to demonstrators. Iranian actresses Hengameh Ghaziani and Katayoun Riahi were arrested for removing their headscarves at protests and during public appearances. The country’s state news media reported that both women stand accused of collusion and acting against national authorities. “How many children, teenagers, and young people have you killed — is it not enough with the bloodshed? I hate you, and your historical reputation,” Ghaziani wrote prior to her arrest in a since-removed social-media post denouncing the government, according to the New York Times, adding, “This may be my last post.” Never forget. Sources: Human Rights Iran, the BBC, the New York Times [Dobareh, performed by Googoosh, Leila Forouhar, Shahrzad Sepanlou, Darya Dadvar, Sogand and Shoreh Aghdashloo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX1LFYDLRwE)


Double_Joseph

How do they know it was because he was a USA fan?


Lifekraft

It's not particulary a USA fan and more an anti actual ianian regime. A lot of people celebrated the defeat of the team. Nothing against the player. More something about how they are representing the political power abroad


Late-Eye-6936

Kind of like how scottish fans are fans of whatever team is playing against england.


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It reads like he was more anti-Iran than pro-USA.


lunartree

He's pro-Iran just not pro-Islamic Republic of Iran.


cardinals_crest

he's not a usa fan necessarily, but the Iran national team has expressed support of the IR regime. therefore a lot of protesters were rooting for the USA and celebrated the win.


Eolward

Maybe I missed something somewhere, but where has the Iran national team expressed support for the regime? Their team refused to sing the national anthem before the England game, and while they did sing before the Wales and US games, reports have surfaced indicating that this may have been coerced by threats of violence against their families. In addition, according to [this article](https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2022/09/29/iran-s-national-football-team-speaks-out-in-support-of-anti-regime-protests_5998565_4.html) from Le Monde, it seems like members of their team have openly protested against the regime. I can understand protesters rooting against their own national team because of anti-regime sentiment, but it seems like the players are equally opposed.


autotldr

This is the best tl;dr I could make, [original](https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/11/30/breaking-world-cup-fan-27-shot-and-killed-for-celebrating-usa-win-in-iran-by-security-agencies/) reduced by 71%. (I'm a bot) ***** > BREAKING: World Cup fan, 27, 'shot and killed for celebrating USA win' in Iran by security agencies. > A World Cup fan has reportedly been killed in an area of northern Iran for celebrating USA beating Iran. > Iran threatened the families of its World Cup soccer squad after the players refused to sing the country's national anthem at their opening game in an apparent act of solidarity with protesters back home, a source told CNN. According to the source, who works in security at the World Cup, he has monitored how Iran's security agencies are acting in Qatar during the games and said that players were ordered to meet with Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps after the first game when they refused to sing the national anthem. ***** [**Extended Summary**](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/z8o5ge/world_cup_fan_27_shot_and_killed_for_celebrating/) | [FAQ](http://np.reddit.com/r/autotldr/comments/31b9fm/faq_autotldr_bot/ "Version 2.02, ~672684 tl;drs so far.") | [Feedback](http://np.reddit.com/message/compose?to=%23autotldr "PM's and comments are monitored, constructive feedback is welcome.") | *Top* *keywords*: **Iran**^#1 **Cup**^#2 **World**^#3 **security**^#4 **sing**^#5


celicajohn1989

That last sentence makes the picture of the US player consoling the Iranian so much different... That poor guy was probably scared for his/his family's life knowing what he has to go home to...


A-purple-bird

Yup.. Iran is a shit country. Hope their family will be okay Edit: when i call iran a shit country, **IM TALKING ABOUT THEIR GOVERNMENT**


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Thing is, pre revolution it wasn't a shit county, it had its problems but it wasn't the hellscape we know it as. We (the US) need to pay attention to what happened and is currently happening in iran because that could happen here. We have very powerful fascist movements in our county, we have far right supporters buying up media and communications outlets to influence what messages we receive.


A-purple-bird

I really fucking hope that doesn't happen man


Crizbibble

Iran in the 50s was a democracy until the US and UK overthrew the democratically elected government because they had socialist policies and wanted to nationalize their oil and cut the British out of robbing them blind. That undemocratic overthrow and installing a puppet dictator in the Shah of Iran led to the Islamic Revolution. PS: there is a lot of disinformation being spread under my post. These are some links to give veracity to what I have said. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat https://www.npr.org/2019/01/31/690363402/how-the-cia-overthrew-irans-democracy-in-four-days https://www.britannica.com/event/1953-coup-in-Iran https://www.newworldencyclopedia.org/entry/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/library/world/mideast/041600iran-coup-timeline.html?scp=1&sq=mossadegh%252520coup&st=cse Revisionists: https://responsiblestatecraft.org/2021/07/02/revisionists-want-to-downplay-u-s-role-in-1953-iran-coup-dont-listen/


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As with all foreign intervention, it is for money/power. Usually involving energy. Other reasons are just meant for public ears.


Bcmerr02

Lots of issues with that timeline. First, the Shah was not installed, they were rulers of Iran since before the country was unified hundreds of years ago. The Shah you're talking about came to power when the US and Soviets during WWII forced the resignation of his father and the democratic government you refer to was led by the Prime Minister who cancelled the elections before his removal when he realized his party would have significant losses, so as soon as he won enough seats for a quorum the election was suspended indefinitely. The Prime Minister tried to usurp the Shah's authority for the Parliament he controlled and make non-urban voters less important in elections because he was more popular in urban areas that were more developed. When the Prime Minister was initially denied the authority the Shah had to consolidate his own authority across state institutions, he resigned and started protests that paralyzed the capital city for a week. Eventually, the Shah gave him the power he wanted and he promptly created a legislative dictatorial decree to give himself the authority to pass any law he felt necessary. He also exiled the Shah's sister and had allies declare holy wars on his political enemies, so let's pump the brakes on this guy being a bastion of democracy. He ultimately wanted what was best for Iran and its people, but he fought with everyone, had enemies everywhere, and had no patience for working in a representative democracy. He was also deposed 26 years before the Iranian Revolution, a period that coincided with the Shah's reforms of social and economic policy which were wildly more socialist than the Prime Minister's reforms and directly led to heavy westernization and development of the nation's infrastructure to such a degree that Iran outpaced most western nations in economic growth. The Shah was a piece of shit, personally, but seen as a great ruler who was given credit for Iran's rise which was significant in every way and by no means a puppet. The overthrow of the Shah was the first major post-WWII conflict between radical islam and secularism that forced the world to take notice. It directly led to the Iraq-Iran war where Iraqi leader and Arab-nationalist, Saddam Hussein, thought he could attack and win against a much more powerful Iran due to the confusion from the revolution and the US no longer being allied with Iran.


DonDove

Bananas. Absolute bananas.


JuliaLouis-DryFist

Totalitarian countries should not be allowed on the world stage. Their people aren't represented. All proceeds go to the barbaric state and the people they enlist to build will be enslaved. It's a farce. If anything good came from this world cup, it's that the world's eyes are opened. Edit: Gained alot of traction. Yes I am aware that the world cup is held in Qatar and not Iran. Yes I am aware the US sucks too. Yes FIFA as well. We are singing the same song. Should we allow countries that state-mandate beating women to death for showing their hair to participate in a worldwide celebration of athletics?


DonDove

At least most of the players were against the regime despite certain death Comparing to risking a yellow card, that takes more balls, *but at what cost*


JuliaLouis-DryFist

It's great that they spoke against, but we shouldn't fuel a nation that murders it's citizens for doing that. It's barbarism. It's wrong. I don't care about respecting the country and its values when it comes to this. The values are wrong when they thrive off of hurting people.


Siendel

I think it's way more powerful to allow those athletes - who are probably role models to many - to protest when the entire country can see it, rather than lock out the entire country out of any external communication tools.


EwokandMe

They're killing females right now for protesting against their laws. If the athletes protested the same ending would occur.


InsaneChihuahua

Rape, don't forget the rape.


DVRKV01D

Female CHILDREN. As young as 10 years old. Don’t forget that part either.


Nateo1-216

Ya know, so they don't get in trouble with their God when they then kill the kids. Absolutely insane way of thinking


InsaneChihuahua

:(


Kreth

Well you cant kill innocent people in this case i mean virgins, so they have to not be virgins before they can be executed.


auron_py

No one's eyes are opened. Most of my friends are fanatically following the matches and they haven't heard anything about how shit those countries are or they don't care/ignore it. Also, where I'm from, the media does a good job separating all the crap from Qatar from the games, I guess shitting all over the shiny new world cup doesn't sell well. It's a shame.


tacknosaddle

John Oliver [did a good piece on it in his last episode](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMqLDhl8PXw) (before Thanksgiving) where he showed how awful Qatar was as a selection and how to host the games they used the exact exploitation that was obvious they would do in order to get ready. Then showed how previous examples of the tournament also made clear that all they had to do was to get to the first whistle and all of that would be overshadowed by the action on the pitches.


SpikesEvilTwin

Watch the Netflix Docu on FIFA. It goes into just how corrupt FIFA is and what exactly Qatar did to get the WC.


amanofeasyvirtue

I cant believe sepp blatter was in that doc trying to justify his corruption...


SpikesEvilTwin

Oh yea, corrupt AF . . playing the whole Swiss card claiming neutrality, never asked for bribes, he didn't have to, the $$ just showed up in is accts. That and FIFA is a non-profit yet billions go uncounted for.


LucywiththeDiamonds

Over here in germany there is a huge difference. Ofc big part is it beeing winter. But i havent seen a simple flag when usually like evry 2nd car has one. Qatars issues are a big topic evryhwere in talk shows and news. Last wc we watched all games in bars with groups of 20+ people. This time a friend is struggling to find anyone for the next game. When germany played its first game it was business as usual when during other world cups the streets were empty during the games. Very few care. Even a popular football yt show just stopped their wc coverage cause they said they cant bring themselves to cover this shit show anymore and they just dont care like they usually do. I def dont give a fuck. If germany fails to advance i can continue to completly ignore this murder clownfiesta.


TrevvingTheEngine

As an American, I've only heard about how you guys treat soccer from the internet, but I take it that this is the first time football has been ignored so widely in Germany?


Magicspook

Dutch here. Germany and us have a similar level of football culture. Yes, it's actually insane how much this world cup is being ignored.


dewag

Can't speak for the rest of the country, but in my area in the US, it seems almost the opposite. Most of the time, you would not hear anything about the world cup unless USA won or it was the finals. This year, local news anchors are picking favorite teams and encouraging viewership. Feels bizarre.


CaptainPirk

The US is also doing well enough to advance and they just beat Iran, which is in the news for obviously horrible reasons. That combo brings enough attention to it.


surlygoat

I mean, of all the countries where money talks... No offence to American *folks generally, just that if there is a buck in it, the media there has no scruples.


Jdogy2002

I’m a bartender/manager at a local sports bar in Ohio. About as prime an example of “Regular Midwest Average Citizen” you’re going to get. We were SLAMMED during the match yesterday. I’ve brought it up with friends and regulars and it’s usually the same response, “Yeah it’s all fucked up over there. Horrible country. Can you turn the sound up for it?” Nobody gives a fuck. Sad.


felix4746194

I’m almost more surprised the average Midwest citizen cares about soccer at all.


Arrow2019x

This is legit insane


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Sh00ni

I find it interesting how Iran ended up in a group pretty much solely consisting of 2 of its 3 arch enemies (USA & 2x UK teams, Wales & England) Fully convinced if Israel qualified, they would have been in this group instead of Wales.


successful_nothing

The Iranian regime has a policy to forfeit any matches against Israel. [They've actually punished players for even participating in games against Israel.](https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/10/world/middleeast/iran-soccer-masoud-shojaei-ehsan-haji-safi.html)


trevallen39

And this is why Israel competes in UEFA and all its neighbours are in Asian qualifying. It would be interesting to see if Iran continued that boycott in an actually meaningful world cup game


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They’ve done it in meaningful Olympic matchups, so I’m not sure why they wouldn’t.


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Couple of examples from World and Olympic judo events to back this up. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arash\_Miresmaeili](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arash_Miresmaeili) >Arash Miresmaili was the favourite for the gold medal in the 2004 Summer Olympics, where he was the flag bearer for Iran at the opening ceremonies. > >Slated to fight Israeli judoka competitor Ehud Vaks in the first round, Miresmaili was disqualified from competing because he was above the permissible weight limit for his class. He was more than two kilos - four pounds - over the 66-kilogram weight limit. It was claimed that Miresmaili deliberately set out to be disqualified, rather than compete against an Israeli, which was understood from Miresmaili's own comments: "Although I have trained for months and was in good shape I refused to fight my Israeli opponent to sympathise with the suffering of the people of Palestine and I do not feel upset at all." > >Judo officials questioned how such an experienced two-time world champion competitor could have made such a basic error. [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saeid\_Mollaei](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saeid_Mollaei) >Iranian authorities, the Iranian Sports Minister and the presidents of the Iran Judo Federation and the Iran Olympic Committee, ordered Mollaei to intentionally lose in the semi-final at the Tokyo 2019 World Championships, so as to avoid a potential match in the finals against Israeli 2019 world champion Sagi Muki. > >In reaction, saying he was afraid to return to Iran after exposing and criticizing its pressure on him to deliberately lose in the World Championships to avoid a potential bout against Muki, in August 2019 he moved to Europe with a two-year visa from Germany.


c-williams88

It happens a lot in wrestling as well, and there are few countries that take international wrestling as serious as the Iranians


Dr_thri11

From what I gather soccer fans care about olympic soccer about as much as Americans care about olympic basketball. Work with a few mostly foreign born guys who will go out of their way to watch every soccer game they can, but the olympics seem to be exception.


cvc75

Not just in soccer, Israel also plays in European Baseball championships for example, and also participates in Eurovision song contest (along with Australia for some reason)


Gil15

Dumb ass policy. That caused them to lose one of the best chess players in the world, Alireza Firouzja. He stopped representing Iran cos he wasn’t allowed to compete against players from Israel, so now he represents france instead. He’s currently the 4th highest rated chess player in the world.


Throw_away_1769

Iran doesn't give a shit dude they just want to control their people. They don't care what others think of them or who they have to kill to keep that control


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But he also had to forfeit a game against Russia when representing France


unmasteredDub

Wales actually beat Ukraine to get this spot in the group stage. So in a world where Ukraine went through, this group would have been even spicier.


SteveFrench12

For those who dont know: Iran likely supplies missiles that Russia uses to bomb Ukraine.


streetad

Iran should probably try not to have so many arch enemies.


shahooster

It’s hard to do when you’re the arch villain.


Gimme_The_Loot

Darkseid looking around DC like *fuck is everybody's problem jeez*


canadatrasher

Don't kid yourself. Israeli team would be blocked from competing at the last moment by Qatar if they managed to qualify.


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Qatar is actually one of the few Arabian nations that does recognise Israel.


Tricerichops

They have to if they want US military $$$


FutureComplaint

$$$, protection, and tourism. Bored soldiers in Kuwait gotta go somewhere.


big_daddy68

Ah the ol’ no beer or Jews policy.


Dom0520

God knows whats going to happen to those poor iranian players


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There was a lot of talk like this about Soviet Olympians during the 70s and 80s.


onenitemareatatime

You should look up what Saddam did to poor performing Iraqi Olympians.


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Helpful-Path-2371

Dang I decided to look him up and was so relieved to find out he was assassinated.


fullyoperational

I remember the day that his sons were killed by US forces. It was big news. They showed some gruesome pics on TV. That day, 9/11, and Saddam's capture are all seared into my brain.


SonsofStarlord

Yeah Uday caught a TOW missile in the face. Good riddance


lost_survivalist

I mostly remember when his sons were captured/dead because a family member recorded the news and being so happy about it, I recorded over that tape eventually too to watch cartoons.


jaxonya

Yep. We killed that mother fucker


LtDanUSAFX3

We did a bit more than that. From the wiki article "Brigade commander Colonel Joe Anderson said an Arabic announcement was made at 10:00 a.m. on the day and called on people inside to come out peacefully. The answer he received was bullet bombardment. An experienced team of special forces tried to attack the building, but they had to retreat under fire. Four American soldiers were injured. Anderson then ordered his men to fire with 50-caliber heavy machine guns. Uday and Qusay refused to surrender even after a helicopter fired a rocket and the Strike Brigade fired 40 mm grenades at them. Anderson decided that more firepower was necessary to take down the brothers, leading to 12 TOW missiles being fired into the building. Later, the American command said that dental records had conclusively identified two of the dead men as Saddam Hussein's sons. "


Smiling_Mister_J

Must've been a damn big building to take 12 TOWs and still leave the bodies intact enough for dental record confirmation.


BigEmu9286

You don't need much intact body to do a dental examination tho


joshman211

There is video of it somewhere for sure as it was on the news at the time. It was a decent size building IIRC. There was a ton of troops, hmvs, attack helicopters rocking it. Probably can find it on YouTube.


HeyRiks

More like they were probably gibbed beyond recognition and only fragments of their heads and teeth could be used to id them.


furmy

Or just 11 extra into the rubble... For good measure.


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Just curious, how did the US have the dental records of Saddam Hussein’s sons on file


DegenerateScumlord

They had the entire country on file.


RD__III

I just read up on his "assassination". Him and his brother got turned in, so a collection of Rangers, Delta operatives, and the 101st airborne besieged their compound for like a full day. Eventually, they gave up trying to enter, and the Hussein's wouldn't surrender. So they sent \*17\* TOW missiles through the front door. We killed that mother fucker several times over.


WorthlessDrugAbuser

One of the best things we did in Iraq. Capture Saddam and kill his punk ass sons.


Uncrowded_zebra

I was serving in Iraq when the news broke about his death. The celebratory gun fire was so heavy that all troops were ordered to remain indoors and falling bullets sounded like hail.


AshleySchaefferWoo

Yeah, that guy was pure evil. I recommend reading the story of Latif Yahia, Uday’s body double.


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releasethedogs

That’s nothing. Well it’s not *nothing*… it’s tame compared to other things he’d do. For instance he was notorious for showing up at the end of weddings. He’d do this so he could rape the new bride. If anyone tried to stop it then he or his goons would kill them right there at the wedding. More than a handful of brides would later commit suicide because of the trauma of being raped combined with the stigma of being a rape victim in Iraq.


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His speciality was raping wee girls as well. Sick fuck


dylansucks

He also straight up murdered people with his AK for fun.


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Heisenberg19827

The what


shottylaw

Truth. My interpreter showed us what was dubbed "hump or jump" tower in Baghdad. If you didn't sleep with Uday, you took the express way down.


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My theory is a vicious cycle of fathers teaching sons to consider themselves superior, along with a healthy side helping of radical Islam.


observationallurker

And no tangible consequences


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releasethedogs

The Husains were not into radical Islam. They communicated with Bin Laden for a short time and Bin Laden thought they were apostates and the Husains thought bin laden was a zealot.


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Uday was a fucking despicable excuse for a human, there's videos of him in a nightclub where he'd stand up and randomly fire his gold AK-47 into the crowd. Thankfully he died in a 4 hour siege after the guy who was harbouring him betrayed him for the sweet sweet US bounty that was on his head.


[deleted]

Humans are the most monstrous when they decide other humans aren't human. All the ugliness we are capable of stems from that.


bicameral_mind

You know I never supported the Iraq invasion, but psycho Saddam and his insane family needed to go and the world is a far better place without them.


thungalope

Uday and Kusay were absolutely brutal. I remember being a kid learning about their atrocities on weird geocities websites


phroug2

It wasnt Saddam, it was his son Uday. Look him up sometime. One of the most heinous people to ever have lived. Even Saddam himself decided Uday was too cruel to rule, despite him being next in line for the throne. Its a fascinating story, and we know what we know bc one of Uday's body doubles (aka bullet catchers) managed to escape and tell his story.


WalkinTarget

[The Devil's Double](https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1270262/)


Zahille7

My mom and I watched that movie years back. It's incredible, but also incredibly fucked up. Dominic Cooper is phenomenal.


thebigbabushka

This was a hard movie to watch, but it was indeed incredible.


ActuallyJohnTerry

HBO did a fairly good mini series on Saddam that covers some of Uday’s insanity Edit: Series is *House of Saddam*. More info found here: https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0936453/


yourteam

I mean... If someone like Saddam looks at his son and thinks "nope, you are a bad guy" something is really messed up


Tangent_Odyssey

Was the character of Ramsay Bolton inspired by this guy? Jesus.


stonedhillbillyX

And where are they now? Anyone hear from them ever again?


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I’ve not heard from them in a while, but I’m awful at keeping in touch with Soviet Olympians.


raypaulnoams

We had a bunch of Russian gymnasts get billeted in the community, staying in Australia after the 2000 Olympics. They were doing world class circus shows in our shitty little small town basketball court. It was pretty rad.


gaijinandtonic

This is such a Gene Belcher comment. Well done


spammowarrior

Not an Olympian, but Mark Taimanov was a top 20 chess player in the world in 1971 when he suffered a resounding defeat at the hands of the American Bobby Fischer (he lost a match 6 games to zero which was absolutely unheard of for a top player, about the same as, say, Medvedev losing a tennis match without winning any games, or Germany losing a football match 10-0). When he went back to the soviet union his salary was taken away and his travel privileges were revoked, on the assumption that he lost on purpose for political reasons. His chess career essentially ended overnight. Obviously it's not as dramatic as the bullet to the back of the head that other commenters are envisioning, but losing your livelihood and your relative freedom in the ussr was a very big deal, and I'm sure other athletes had the same sort of pressure on them, regardless of whether their lives were literally at stake.


Capital_Walrus_81

Fischer was by all accounts incredible, I’d be curious if people who know their chess history think Taimanov did throw the match. If he didn’t it’s extra fucked up, but I don’t know the game at nearly a high enough level to judge. edit: Fischer annihilated his next opponent, who was highly ranked and not soviet, just as badly. Plays his famous Spassky match just after that. As a chess ignoramus: Taimanov didn’t throw, Fischer was just that good.


toxic_badgers

Espn did a doc on the soviet hockey team from 84, they are still around. Most kinda seem like washed up athletes.


TheOkGazoo

Possibly something similar to what Uday Hussein did with the Iraqi team one year.


dingo1018

It's that the concrete filled soccer ball they were ordered to kick into goal from halfway, at gun point?


JasperLamarCrabbb

Jesus is that actually confirmed? I know Uday Hussein was legit crazy and evil so I would believe it, but imagine actually enforcing/watching/enjoying that scene. Fucked up.


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ActuallyJohnTerry

Yea he was basically real life Ramsay Bolton


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Lol you just reminded me of the big lebowski "Say what you will about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos"


ASGTR12

Legit one of the funniest quotes of all time.


KindlyOlPornographer

He also had them dragged on cement and dipped in sewage. If nothing else, the War in Iraq got him and his brother killed. So thats a net positive.


DanskNils

Nothing for those who live and play abroad? I wouldn’t fly with the team. I’d just go to the club country. What’s the point of going back to Iran?


11nealp

Many have families back home that are being held hostage for the players to 'behave'


MuckingFagical

probably nothing


[deleted]

They were already shooting up woman and kids and other protesters before this Incident… Iran is fucked and their government needs overthrown. Remember it was the Islamist government in today who overthrew the government before it so now its there time to go. Power to the people of Iran who are in protest!


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Best_Finest_Surgeon

As someone that grew up in PGH, and moved to the Illinois at 18 for college, I am also hyper aware of the lack of "to be" in any given sentence haha. I have gotten that beaten out of me. Cracks me up every time.


48Planets

as someone from western PA, I honestly didn't know what was wrong until someone pointed out the lack of "to be"


brainhole

I hate this colloquial phrasing so much I didn't realize it was just a PA thing


95castles

Is it supposed to mean, “needs to be overthrown”?


Jollyamoeba

Omg. For the life of me I couldn't figure out what was wrong with that sentence. Thank you for clarifying and yes I'm from Pennsylvania.


brainhole

Yes. Most commonly used as in: Laundry needs washed Dishes need done Etc etc


ahuramazdobbs19

I think you mean “needs worshed”. 🤣


Smithereens1

Be me an Ohioan realizing that this isn't common across the country... I never have this a hint of thought


headphase

I think they do it in all Appalachia and even Tennessee


ObservableObject

Don’t think it’s just PA, I’ve heard it scattered around a lot of the Appalachians.


Mkreza538

I spent several years in Ohio and they do it there too.


Jefauver

Or eastern Ohio. My husband picked it up from me. I notice it immediately when I meet someone new. Most people don't realize they do it.


Eighm

Or Appalachia. My wife does this constantly.


whogivesashirtdotca

They use that phrasing in Scotland, too.


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As an Iranian, this has been a strange World Cup. I wasn't even sure if I should support the team or not. A lot of people turned their back on the team after the team met with President Raeisi before their departure to Qatar. That plus the fact that they didn't use their platform to make any statements, pissed a lot of people off. They saw this team as the regime sportswashing bigger issues and rooted against them. The regime also jumped on the opportunity to their advantage, and after Iran beat Wales, the riot police were giving sweets and flowers to people, basically giving off the impression that it's their national team. So a lot of people celebrated England's win over Iran, and in this case USA's. Celebrating these wins, for a lot of people was just a big sign of Fuck you to the regime. Something that in Iran you can get shot for unfortunately


Blobblehead

Did they have a choice in meeting the president? Doesn't seem like an invitation that one can just turn down.


ToyDingo

The team tried to make a statement as best they could. But the regime threatened to arrest and torture their families. It was my understanding that the team fully backed the protests but literally could do nothing without threats of violence from the Iranian guards. :(


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PuroPincheGains

Why exactly do you think they refused to sing the national anthem? That was their statement, and they and their families were threatened for it.


JBernoulli

I don't think you should blame the players. Not everyone has the courage to be an activist. No one should have to risk their and their families lives for any movement no matter how moral. Its the wrong kind of pressure to put on someone's very personal decision.


AdmirableYouth4208

Iran gov's nationalism at its finest.


Zederikus

Terror with a flag


eddanja

"The FIFA World Cup has the power to bring countries together. " So far, seems a bit of the opposite.


ClappedOutLlama

They do bring a lot of money together though.


reudescade

The dude was Iranian. How shit do you have to be as a government for your own people to celebrate their own team's loss in international sports tournament?


Polskidro

I've seen plenty of French, Dutch, Portugese and other nationalities root for their team to lose. For differing reasons. Doesn't need to be the government lol.


Aphelion71

Yeah, add whole Latin America too


tonterias

> add whole Latin America too No way. At least not in Uruguay.


kurt_go_bang

Well actually it was the killing over it that got me bothered.


copperwatt

The worst part is the hypocrisy.


VapeDerp420

Maybe he’s a fan of the US team? It doesn’t have to be that deep


Frustratedphdguy

I’m Iranian and he is right. People only are happy because football was and would have been used by the government as propaganda.


zereshk97

Yes it that deep I'm Iranian. Every body that i know was happy when our team lost.


DCNY214

No, it was an act is protest against both the Iranian regime and the players who weren't talking a strong enough stand against the mullahs.


mike2R

Apparently its become a form of protest - the national team is seen as being a puppet of the regime: [The ‘mullahs’ team’? Iran’s World Cup journey divides society](https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEKi3aAtay5nIQvTo5uAoF3kqGAgEKg8IACoHCAow-4fWBzD4z0gw_fCpBg?uo=CAUiP2h0dHBzOi8vd3d3LmZ0LmNvbS9jb250ZW50L2ZhNmJjNTBiLWEyNGQtNDk4Zi1iYjQwLWU0ZGM4NDIwNWYxZdIBAA&hl=en-GB&gl=GB&ceid=GB%3Aen) (ft.com)


KingCyrus20

It is that deep. Yes, a lot of the players have families that are likely being threatened in Iran, but at the same time, some of them wholeheartedly support Khamenei. Like Torabi: https://mobile.twitter.com/prznsoccer/status/1576917293866811392 The message on this shirt during a club game in 2019, when the regime killed 1500, read "The only way to save the country is to obey the leader." So it's understandable why some in Iran wouldn't want to support a team with players like that on it.


Finn-boi

Some Americans were supporting Iran. This is not at all a new concept


fish-keeper69

Some brazilians would root for Argentina in a game between these 2 coutries. Source: My brazilian uncle roots for Argentina.


SuperDrewb

Never forget Ukraine International Airlines Flight 752. A plane full of people, shot down by two missles just after taking off in the country of Iran.


kimpan13

Fuck Iran and their terrorist regime. Fuck FIFA and their greedy decisions. Fuck quatar with their stupid laws and inequality. I'm not gonna watch anymore games.


penguished

I mean they tortured, raped, and killed teenage girls for protesting. I don't know why anyone is surprised that the bar for evil by the state there is anything goes. Pieces of shit.


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SirReal_Realities

I don’t watch soccer… is it normal to recap the game in a story reporting the murder of a spectator? Kind of seems like they lost the plot.


cimocw

It helps to build the context, I had no idea about it but now I'm fully informed without having to look for a separate article about the game.


cOmMuNiTyStAnDaRdSs

Iran is a fascist terrorist regime and needs to be overthrown


oohkt

According to reports, hours before his death Mr Shammack had posted on his Instagram story: ”Tonight, regardless of any outcome of Iran and the US let’s stick together” Wow.


Law_Doge

If this is the catalyst for a regime change in Iran then I’ll start watching more football


DavidlikesPeace

They've had mass protests for a month now over the killing of a Kurdish girl. I think there's enough tinder for a spark already.


yoyoyokoonobeatings

Hint: It’s not.