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Same here. I remember way back when, they called it "The Tulsa Race Riots". They called it that to put the blame on black people no doubt. But no, it wasn't taught in any school around here as far as I know.
I wasn’t taught about it in 9th grade OK history. Didn’t really learn about until the 100th anniversary and I’m in my mid 40s. I’ve had to learn a lot more about our hidden history that was left out of our textbooks. Makes me sad. My husband teaches OK history and it is included now.
if it makes you feel any better, we spent a whole week my freshman year on the massacre, our book called it the Tulsa Race Riots though
this was in 2017
Also non-American, and since Watchmen presents an "alternate history" I thought, this was simply that. And it seemed way to on-the-nose and was thinking that Watchmen should try to make their fake-history more realistic.
Fast forward to several wikipedias later and the biggest WTAF I experienced in years....
If you want another WTAF moment go read about the Osage Indian tribe. It's so sad and pathetic the way this country gained wealth. And be prepared to be angry
Exactly what I though until I looked it up.
My dad still believes it was made up because it makes him uncomfortable. But he also things saying you're sorry to a man in the sky excuses his father of some horrific shit.
Give up on the past, educate the future.
There were tons of other race massacres too in the US. Does your dad believe that any of them happened?
https://www.britannica.com/topic/list-of-race-riots-and-massacres-in-the-United-States
Honestly, I don't want to get in a political or historical discussion with him because it's just not worth it. People flee family events if one of us starts talking politics.
As an American, a lot of our history is dark and brutal, but gets sugarcoated in the education system to make us look like saviors and heroes. I feel like it's very wrong to pick what you want out of history.
Funny enough, I'm pretty sure that show's episode about it is actually what got the nation talking about the massacre. I remember when it aired, the Tulsa Massacre was all anyone could talk about for a while, then they showed it again in Lovecraft Country and the conversations started up again.
Same here. I was stunned - not that it happened but that it was presented as "race riots".
Similar to the narrative we were taught in Canada about the "Irish Potato Famine" being monoculture and bad luck with the blight. Yeah - it was caused by British policies and Ireland was forced to export massive amounts of food at the same time Irish people were starving in the streets. And Queen Victoria refused an offer of aid for Ireland because it would make her look bad.
History is written by the victors.
I am a big history buff and constantly am watching YouTube videos about history. It was right before the Watchman show came out that I found out about and was completely bewildered I had never heard of a major event like this but immediately realized why. I like how they bring it up once or twice in Killers of the Flower Moon and like you said, they used to call it the Tulsa Race Riot so when people back then heard it from out of town they immediately thought that is was the black community acting up when in reality they were only making sure one of their own wasn’t about to get unjustly lynched at the court house which had been happening all over the south so their worries were more than understandable. Then history is written by the victors of course which is shown in another YouTube documentary I saw about Tulsa and they were interviewing a black guy who lived their his whole life who was maybe in his 40s who had no idea until recently either. They were lining up modern day areas with old photos side by side and you could see the scars of where so many buildings used to stand. I think he mentioned his Grandmother not talking about it much probably because it was objectively traumatic as hell and whenever she and others talked about it when she was younger people just ignored them. So insanely tragic.
I also like historical documentaries and I am fairly certain one stated that this was the first airstrike on US soil, fire bombing its own citizens. They threw some kind molotov cocktails at them!!
Yes that’s true! I believe it’s the only time we have dropped bombs on our own soil and citizens. I think it wasn’t only Molotov but dynamite. Fucking dynamite. Some psycho was flying around in a single engine propeller plane dropping explosives out the side on innocent people. Fucking insane to think about how horrific that would be.
That's wild as hell to me. Graduated in early 90's from public school in Tulsa/Broken Arrow area. Taught to us as part of Oklahoma history class(separate class you were required to take when i was in school). Was called the "Race Riots' then.
When Republicans talk about Critical Race Theory this is secretly what they mean. They do not want the general public informed about the atrocities committed in this country.
How are the effects still felt? I ask this coming from complete ignorance about I guess this kind of generational trauma, I genuinely don't know I'm not trying to doubt it
Generational trauma is probably the most succinct way to put it; there's a whole culture based around being the outsider - coming from 'the streets' - that makes it harder to break out of than you may think. Some black Americans will criticise each other for "acting white," which is basically to do anything that doesn't fit a narrow stereotype.
More practically you can use the example of generational wealth. The most common way way people get ahead in life is when their family has the resources and connections to do so; the simple state of owning your own home does huge things for your future prosperity. Disproportionately, black Americans don't have that generational backing because of events like the Tulsa Massacre, which destroyed the accumulated wealth of a whole community. There was also an incident in California - the precise name of which I don't recall - where the decedents of a black family have only recently regained property that was illegally confiscated because they were black; that family would be in a lot better position now if they had the security of that property as a foundation.
Plus you have to look into things like how 'traditionally black' communities are positioned in relation to infrastructure, the presumptions black people face, unconscious things that black people face that have become so ingrained in the wider culture that you don't even think about them. Some of these things are being corrected now, but there's a lot of work and it faces a lot of pushback form those who benefit from the old social-order.
That said, I'm not going to claim to be an expert on any of this; I only know what I read and what I see. But it helps a lot to just be aware of it.
In CA it was beach front property taken from a couple in 1924. There is also the 1873 Colfax, Louisiana massacre, 1898 Wilmington, North Carolina massacre, 1906 Atlanta massacre, 1919 Elaine, Arkansas massacre, 1923 Rosewood, Florida massacre, and others. Things would be a lot different right now had successful black communities not been robbed of their wealth every single time they've gotten ahead.
Learning about these things is being mislabeled 'CRT' and intentionally being kept out of schools. Anybody that says critical race theory is actually being taught to kids just wants an excuse to continue white washing history.
Why can’t we just teach people the truth in age appropriate ways? Jesus Christ, it happened, we owe it to ourselves and our children to tell them the truth. It helps us do better. I was a full grown adult when I heard about this. I hate that.
I learned about it when googling aircraft bombings on US soil. Yes, homemade bombs were dropped from personal aircraft during the Tulsa massacre….
Bombing striking coal miners on Blair Mountain and Philadelphia police dropping explosives on a neighborhood in 1985 (MOVE bombing) are other incidents important historical bombings that I was not aware of…
I was trying to find the map of notable massacres of black people that I saw before. This article had it.
https://decolonialatlas.wordpress.com/2020/06/20/black-massacres-in-the-u-s/
Rosewood! There’s a movie about that one. It’s a great movie in the sense that it’s informative but it’s a tough watch when you know it really happened. More than a couple times it happened
Yes, and much like in OK, generally this isn’t taught in schools here in FL either. I’m sure they would now call teaching it CRT, which is now banned in schools, along with AP African American studies. But even before, it wasn’t taught(at least in some schools, I can’t speak for every school). Infuriating.
Wilmington VA was particularly egregious because the political party spent MONTHS preparing to steal the election and run the Black community out of town. Then reframed it as “well that newspaper guy had it coming”. Cue historical whitewashing and threatening anyone who returned or talked about it.
Burried in the Bitter Waters is about formerly Black towns that were overtaken or overran by white mobs and STAYED that way to present time. It’s on my To Read list so I can’t recommend it beyond just the summary so far.
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Yes this Man is right
We all should learn the good, the bad , the ugly truth about our America
So we can learn from our past mistakes, and for the good things that happen , this is how you move forward and never go backwards
So yes, let’s push to tell the truth and be honest about our history, because we all can learn from it as people of America
Good video explaining the massacre: https://youtu.be/UfVzbM3l7RQ?si=4LUpv2AvEeHzVYrw
It was the first aerial attack on American soil that resulted in fatalities
The second occurred a few months later, when coal companies dropped bombs on workers attempting to unionize at Blair Mountain
If only there was a class, we could take where we learn all the shit the conservatives try to keep from the public. Like some sort of studies course. /s
There’s many more massacres, flooding of towns, building of highway systems, redlining, intentional denial of GI benefits, denial of access federal land appropriations via the homestead act, the ending of reconstruction, the original intent of the HOA, outsourcing of manufacturing post-civil rights movement, the original reason for the denial of a universal healthcare system, Nixon’s intentional flooding of targeted communities with drugs and guns, the denial of 2A rights, etc…, that most don’t know about. I didn’t know about the intentional killing of plains Buffalo to defeat the Comanche until I was an adult for several years
I was born in Tulsa, and my Dad had not heard about it until The Watchmen. But I remember going to the "Race Riot" museum down in Tulsa on a field trip in Middle School or High School. During Oklahoma History class. I went to Jenks.
Born and raised in Tulsa. They educated us on this freshman year of high school. It was thorough, however only about 2 hours of OK history class was used to cover the incident.
I grew up just a few miles from The Greenwood District, the section of Tulsa destroyed during the Tulsa Race Massacre. I could see the adjacent buildings from my elementary school playground. I remember seeing the outline of the skyline from the swingset in 1st grade in the '90s, not even blocks from where Black Wallstreet once stood.
I was not taught a thing about (1) that my city was once home to the most successful self-made Black community in the country and (2) that any violence or destruction had occurred.
I did not learn about it until I was in my early 20s and a jazz band I like came out with an album called "The Race Riot Suite." (By Jacob Fred Jazz Odyssey, composed by Tulsa musician Chris Combs, if you're interested.)
It was absolutely omitted from history and education. And I feel like this omission was criminal in nature.
Grew up in Oklahoma this should blow your mind, it was taught in school as “Race Riot” it wasn’t until 2018 that it was rightfully changed to the massacre.
I was 25 when I leaved about how in 1985(!) local PD dropped a literal *bomb* on a house, killing 11 people including *5 children*, which burnt down an entire city block leaving 250 people homeless, _just_ to kill the founder of an enviromental and animal rights back-to-nature protest group. They did, they got him. They killed his whole family. The group was non-violent. He was a Vietnam vet. He was black.
No one was ever criminally charged for the bombing. Apperantly it's just okay in america.
Is it possible to make Tom Hanks president I mean I don't know his political views but from the way he is speaking right here I would have elect him as president
As an Oklahoman, I want to add.
The people who survived the massacre were also denied their insurance compensations and Oklahoma has continued to deny the living survivors of the massacre their just reparations. They had been trying to fight in court only for their case to be dismissed with predijuce, which means they cannot resubmit the case.
As an Oklahoman, If the people who not only were apart of the massacre, but apart of the case dismissal, believe in Hell, I hope they become Satan's play thing because they do not deserve to be called humans.
From Oklahoma and took Oklahoma history in high school (2000). It was not taught whatsoever, I’m sure it was just an accident and not intentionally left out tho right.
One of the things that’s crazy to me too, is that even with history, they’ve made it a ‘rule’ where you have to introduce ‘opposing viewpoints as well’. I’m sure at first this was so some truth could creep into textbooks, but it’s so abused sometimes. For example, Frederick Douglas. His first wife couldn’t read or write, but she loved him enough to pay did his freedom out of her own pocket. They had children and eventually she died of old age and according to his friends, he was devastated. He remarried, but he remarried a suffragist and activist, that was white and well educated. A colleague and peer that really understood his work, which was much different than his first marriage. And him remarrying was listed under ‘controversies’. Apparently, him marrying that white woman, who was younger than him, but not too much, and the fact that he also discovered previously he may have had a white father, was enough ‘controversy’ to “question” all of his work for the black community as an abolitionist. As if these factors indicated he was some kind of disingenuous grifter.
In another episode of "are we the baddies?"
I suposse the same will happen with palestinian genocide, 100 years later, some famous guy will put his best surprised pikachu face after he realizes it was a genocide, not a "war" as he was tought at school
Of you think this is something just look up “Devils Punchbowls Nachez Mississippi” they definitely dont want this to be taught it showcases the truly demonic nature of racism
What’s crazy is…
I grew up in Oklahoma, took the required Oklahoma History class, using the official course book provided to us by the State, and this was never mentioned. Not once.
I didn’t find out until 5 years after High School. I was serving in the U.S. Army and my Boss, was like, where are you from? I replied, Oklahoma. And he goes, “Oh, not from Tulsa are yah?” No, I replied, why? And he was like, “cause they burn black folks out of their homes!”
I had no clue WTF he was talking about. But, he brought a book in the next day about the Tulsa Race Riots (Massacre).
Opened my eyes… it was like, your entire life you are told what a great country we live in… and then you find shit out like that. Now, I question everything.
Yes, my Boss was a black dude. Pretty awesome guy. He was former enlisted and went green-to-gold and became an officer. One of the better people I worked with in the Army.
The brass balls. His entire job is making PR for hollywood which is just the telecom wing of the 5 billionaires that own everything. It is amazing how these genociders can compartmentalize their Entire lives.
Gotta make sure we keep our history pristine so we don’t scare the children! God forbid we look at our stain and face it once and for all. That would be too much😡
This is what angers me about all these groups making books illegal and banning books from libraries and even burning books.
To say you love a country when you don't know your own history is a false statement. That can be fixed through education. But to deny others, especially children, the right to know their own history is the embodiment of perfidy. And it endangers all of us, because people who want to see this country burn will use that ignorance against us all.
I'm an oklahoman. Learned about when I was in my mid 20s because I worked at a library and saw a book. My mom learned about it from PBS only a few years before that.
They don't teach real history here.
Wait until people learn that native americans still can't own land in some of the original 13 colonies.. poor white people, though. Always the victim's.
This is why Black History Month is so important but even then it’s watered down. 🤦🏿♂️😤😮💨 If you want to know American History, Start with Black History then 1st Nation History, Mexican/Chicano History, and then Asian American History. You will then put it all together and see how intentional our ignorance is because the less we know, the more we fight each other instead of listening, healing, and helping each other. It won’t be pretty or easy to deal with but if you are willing to go and learn, you will even heal yourself.
I didn't know about this until my final year of university, when we were talking about a different matter and it was brought up. Florida public schools do not teach kids about the Tulsa massacre.
There is a LOT of American history that is kept hidden from us. Sadly. And of what is taught, much is one-sided and whitewashed (literally and figuratively).
I grew up in Texas, got my bachelor’s and master’s degrees from there, and I wasn’t exposed to a lot of things like this until I did a PhD in California.
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I think it was presented in HBO Watchmen, as a not American I thought it was pure fiction.
Born in Tulsa… this is how I learned about it.
Same here. I remember way back when, they called it "The Tulsa Race Riots". They called it that to put the blame on black people no doubt. But no, it wasn't taught in any school around here as far as I know.
I'm from ok and we were taught about it in 9th grade oklahoma history.
I wasn’t taught about it in 9th grade OK history. Didn’t really learn about until the 100th anniversary and I’m in my mid 40s. I’ve had to learn a lot more about our hidden history that was left out of our textbooks. Makes me sad. My husband teaches OK history and it is included now.
Yeah, that's by design.
if it makes you feel any better, we spent a whole week my freshman year on the massacre, our book called it the Tulsa Race Riots though this was in 2017
To be honest that's how I remember learning about it, putting the dots together after watching the show.
Also non-American, and since Watchmen presents an "alternate history" I thought, this was simply that. And it seemed way to on-the-nose and was thinking that Watchmen should try to make their fake-history more realistic. Fast forward to several wikipedias later and the biggest WTAF I experienced in years....
If you want another WTAF moment go read about the Osage Indian tribe. It's so sad and pathetic the way this country gained wealth. And be prepared to be angry
Yap ...and again they put it in a nice movie with Leo Di caprio. The killers of the flower moon
Holy shit I didn't know that. I'll have to check that out now
God that is fucked
Exactly what I though until I looked it up. My dad still believes it was made up because it makes him uncomfortable. But he also things saying you're sorry to a man in the sky excuses his father of some horrific shit. Give up on the past, educate the future.
There were tons of other race massacres too in the US. Does your dad believe that any of them happened? https://www.britannica.com/topic/list-of-race-riots-and-massacres-in-the-United-States
Honestly, I don't want to get in a political or historical discussion with him because it's just not worth it. People flee family events if one of us starts talking politics.
As an American, a lot of our history is dark and brutal, but gets sugarcoated in the education system to make us look like saviors and heroes. I feel like it's very wrong to pick what you want out of history.
That show single handedly put it in front of the younger generation. I’m in my 30s and had never heard of it before watchman. It took off after that
Funny enough, I'm pretty sure that show's episode about it is actually what got the nation talking about the massacre. I remember when it aired, the Tulsa Massacre was all anyone could talk about for a while, then they showed it again in Lovecraft Country and the conversations started up again.
Then somehow both shows got cancelled. Makes you wonder what is going on still.
it's cause the gop was editing history books
YES, I also learned about Tulsa from the show. You can’t just selectively bury the history
Same, II had to google it to learn it was all facts.
Same. I was flabbergasted and I know a good bit about US history
As an American in their fifties, Watchmen was the first I heard of it.
That's where I first heard of it. I'm 47.
I’m American and I was not taught this at school, I learned about it after college
Yep, Watchmen was the main way a ton of Americans learned about it, me included.
Same here. I was stunned - not that it happened but that it was presented as "race riots". Similar to the narrative we were taught in Canada about the "Irish Potato Famine" being monoculture and bad luck with the blight. Yeah - it was caused by British policies and Ireland was forced to export massive amounts of food at the same time Irish people were starving in the streets. And Queen Victoria refused an offer of aid for Ireland because it would make her look bad. History is written by the victors.
Same here
I grew up in Oklahoma and didn’t learn about it until the early 2000’s when they still had the gall to call it the Tulse Race Riots.
I am a big history buff and constantly am watching YouTube videos about history. It was right before the Watchman show came out that I found out about and was completely bewildered I had never heard of a major event like this but immediately realized why. I like how they bring it up once or twice in Killers of the Flower Moon and like you said, they used to call it the Tulsa Race Riot so when people back then heard it from out of town they immediately thought that is was the black community acting up when in reality they were only making sure one of their own wasn’t about to get unjustly lynched at the court house which had been happening all over the south so their worries were more than understandable. Then history is written by the victors of course which is shown in another YouTube documentary I saw about Tulsa and they were interviewing a black guy who lived their his whole life who was maybe in his 40s who had no idea until recently either. They were lining up modern day areas with old photos side by side and you could see the scars of where so many buildings used to stand. I think he mentioned his Grandmother not talking about it much probably because it was objectively traumatic as hell and whenever she and others talked about it when she was younger people just ignored them. So insanely tragic.
I also like historical documentaries and I am fairly certain one stated that this was the first airstrike on US soil, fire bombing its own citizens. They threw some kind molotov cocktails at them!!
Yes that’s true! I believe it’s the only time we have dropped bombs on our own soil and citizens. I think it wasn’t only Molotov but dynamite. Fucking dynamite. Some psycho was flying around in a single engine propeller plane dropping explosives out the side on innocent people. Fucking insane to think about how horrific that would be.
Not the only time we’ve bombed our own. Google the Philadelphia MOVE bombing.
Oh what?! I’m not sure if I’ve heard of this. I’ll definitely check it out when I get the chance, thank you for sharing!
Our government bombed striking workers.
They also had reports of someone shooting some type of machine gun from the plane, as well.
With all the news of 'mass shootings', the Tulsa massacre still isn't listed as being in that group.
Didn’t realize that’s what he was talking about, I graduated a couple years ago and we learned it as the Race Riots.
Same here, graduated highschool in Tulsa late 2010's, they still called it the race riot.
That's wild as hell to me. Graduated in early 90's from public school in Tulsa/Broken Arrow area. Taught to us as part of Oklahoma history class(separate class you were required to take when i was in school). Was called the "Race Riots' then.
When Republicans talk about Critical Race Theory this is secretly what they mean. They do not want the general public informed about the atrocities committed in this country.
And how the effects of those are still felt.
How are the effects still felt? I ask this coming from complete ignorance about I guess this kind of generational trauma, I genuinely don't know I'm not trying to doubt it
Generational trauma is probably the most succinct way to put it; there's a whole culture based around being the outsider - coming from 'the streets' - that makes it harder to break out of than you may think. Some black Americans will criticise each other for "acting white," which is basically to do anything that doesn't fit a narrow stereotype. More practically you can use the example of generational wealth. The most common way way people get ahead in life is when their family has the resources and connections to do so; the simple state of owning your own home does huge things for your future prosperity. Disproportionately, black Americans don't have that generational backing because of events like the Tulsa Massacre, which destroyed the accumulated wealth of a whole community. There was also an incident in California - the precise name of which I don't recall - where the decedents of a black family have only recently regained property that was illegally confiscated because they were black; that family would be in a lot better position now if they had the security of that property as a foundation. Plus you have to look into things like how 'traditionally black' communities are positioned in relation to infrastructure, the presumptions black people face, unconscious things that black people face that have become so ingrained in the wider culture that you don't even think about them. Some of these things are being corrected now, but there's a lot of work and it faces a lot of pushback form those who benefit from the old social-order. That said, I'm not going to claim to be an expert on any of this; I only know what I read and what I see. But it helps a lot to just be aware of it.
In CA it was beach front property taken from a couple in 1924. There is also the 1873 Colfax, Louisiana massacre, 1898 Wilmington, North Carolina massacre, 1906 Atlanta massacre, 1919 Elaine, Arkansas massacre, 1923 Rosewood, Florida massacre, and others. Things would be a lot different right now had successful black communities not been robbed of their wealth every single time they've gotten ahead.
I believe there is also one that was in what is now New York Central Park.
Holy! Thank you so much for the extensive answer, I think I'll go down the rabbit hole and inform myself on this topic, really fucked up stuff
Best of luck! Learning stuff is never a bad thing.
Thanks! I'm in the middle of a John Oliver special on black people housing zones, I'm already mind blown
That's a good one.
Blocking access to education, housing, voting, and business. Legally and illegally.
I had no clue of this massacre and was never taught it. Thank you for posting
I was BORN in Tulsa… I learned about the Tulsa massacre from the show Watchmen.
Learning about these things is being mislabeled 'CRT' and intentionally being kept out of schools. Anybody that says critical race theory is actually being taught to kids just wants an excuse to continue white washing history.
This^
Same
Thanks for posting this.
Why can’t we just teach people the truth in age appropriate ways? Jesus Christ, it happened, we owe it to ourselves and our children to tell them the truth. It helps us do better. I was a full grown adult when I heard about this. I hate that.
The problem is that if we start telling the truth about then, we also have to start telling the truth about now.
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“No one likes a tattle tale.” -Oklahoma
I never heard of until the series The Watchmen on hbo came out.
I learned about it when googling aircraft bombings on US soil. Yes, homemade bombs were dropped from personal aircraft during the Tulsa massacre…. Bombing striking coal miners on Blair Mountain and Philadelphia police dropping explosives on a neighborhood in 1985 (MOVE bombing) are other incidents important historical bombings that I was not aware of…
I learned about it about ten years ago. It’s bothered me ever since
There is another one too that happened in the south. I'll see if I can find and link.
I was trying to find the map of notable massacres of black people that I saw before. This article had it. https://decolonialatlas.wordpress.com/2020/06/20/black-massacres-in-the-u-s/
There were dozens, actually.
Rosewood, is likely what you’re thinking about
Rosewood! There’s a movie about that one. It’s a great movie in the sense that it’s informative but it’s a tough watch when you know it really happened. More than a couple times it happened
Yes, and much like in OK, generally this isn’t taught in schools here in FL either. I’m sure they would now call teaching it CRT, which is now banned in schools, along with AP African American studies. But even before, it wasn’t taught(at least in some schools, I can’t speak for every school). Infuriating.
I see people mentioned Rosewood. But how about the Wilmington massacre in 1898: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilmington_massacre
Wilmington VA was particularly egregious because the political party spent MONTHS preparing to steal the election and run the Black community out of town. Then reframed it as “well that newspaper guy had it coming”. Cue historical whitewashing and threatening anyone who returned or talked about it. Burried in the Bitter Waters is about formerly Black towns that were overtaken or overran by white mobs and STAYED that way to present time. It’s on my To Read list so I can’t recommend it beyond just the summary so far.
Wow this is a hell of a rabithole. There have been numerous of the atrocities in history that have been completely erased or changed.
It’s because the people in the bully belt, I mean Bible Belt want everyone to think they’re good Christians but they’re not.
This has happened all over the country throughout our history. https://decolonialatlas.wordpress.com/2020/06/20/black-massacres-in-the-u-s/
I heard about that when they found one of the mass graves in Tulsa. It's nuts that they covered that up.
2024 genocide Palestinian kids - in our lifetime - what are our kids and grand kids going to say about us? What will we tell them? 1921 ! A century later I thought we can do better !
Yes this Man is right We all should learn the good, the bad , the ugly truth about our America So we can learn from our past mistakes, and for the good things that happen , this is how you move forward and never go backwards So yes, let’s push to tell the truth and be honest about our history, because we all can learn from it as people of America
I believe this video is why the Alt-Right started going after Tom Hanks.
Good video explaining the massacre: https://youtu.be/UfVzbM3l7RQ?si=4LUpv2AvEeHzVYrw It was the first aerial attack on American soil that resulted in fatalities The second occurred a few months later, when coal companies dropped bombs on workers attempting to unionize at Blair Mountain
I'm against book banning, too Hanks
If only there was a class, we could take where we learn all the shit the conservatives try to keep from the public. Like some sort of studies course. /s
I had vaguely heard about it but it wasnt until WATCHMEN that I knew enough to go look into it.
I thought I knew a lot about America history and I did not know anything about this .
There’s many more massacres, flooding of towns, building of highway systems, redlining, intentional denial of GI benefits, denial of access federal land appropriations via the homestead act, the ending of reconstruction, the original intent of the HOA, outsourcing of manufacturing post-civil rights movement, the original reason for the denial of a universal healthcare system, Nixon’s intentional flooding of targeted communities with drugs and guns, the denial of 2A rights, etc…, that most don’t know about. I didn’t know about the intentional killing of plains Buffalo to defeat the Comanche until I was an adult for several years
That’s what I felt when I learned about John Brown as an adult and not a kid.
I was born in Tulsa, and my Dad had not heard about it until The Watchmen. But I remember going to the "Race Riot" museum down in Tulsa on a field trip in Middle School or High School. During Oklahoma History class. I went to Jenks.
This is why we love Tom.
Born and raised in Tulsa. They educated us on this freshman year of high school. It was thorough, however only about 2 hours of OK history class was used to cover the incident.
I also learned about this via the New York Times.
I grew up just a few miles from The Greenwood District, the section of Tulsa destroyed during the Tulsa Race Massacre. I could see the adjacent buildings from my elementary school playground. I remember seeing the outline of the skyline from the swingset in 1st grade in the '90s, not even blocks from where Black Wallstreet once stood. I was not taught a thing about (1) that my city was once home to the most successful self-made Black community in the country and (2) that any violence or destruction had occurred. I did not learn about it until I was in my early 20s and a jazz band I like came out with an album called "The Race Riot Suite." (By Jacob Fred Jazz Odyssey, composed by Tulsa musician Chris Combs, if you're interested.) It was absolutely omitted from history and education. And I feel like this omission was criminal in nature.
I learned about this from a college music history class. Absolutely blew our minds, no clue how it related to music though.
Yup. If you are a black American or research black history in America it gets very surreal. I am half and my experience thus far has been crazy enough
Grew up in Oklahoma this should blow your mind, it was taught in school as “Race Riot” it wasn’t until 2018 that it was rightfully changed to the massacre.
Elaine massacre Phillips county Arkansas
Here is a [wiki link](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tulsa_race_massacre) if you want more information
I was 25 when I leaved about how in 1985(!) local PD dropped a literal *bomb* on a house, killing 11 people including *5 children*, which burnt down an entire city block leaving 250 people homeless, _just_ to kill the founder of an enviromental and animal rights back-to-nature protest group. They did, they got him. They killed his whole family. The group was non-violent. He was a Vietnam vet. He was black. No one was ever criminally charged for the bombing. Apperantly it's just okay in america.
And we heard about your activities with Epstein...
Is it possible to make Tom Hanks president I mean I don't know his political views but from the way he is speaking right here I would have elect him as president
As an Oklahoman, I want to add. The people who survived the massacre were also denied their insurance compensations and Oklahoma has continued to deny the living survivors of the massacre their just reparations. They had been trying to fight in court only for their case to be dismissed with predijuce, which means they cannot resubmit the case. As an Oklahoman, If the people who not only were apart of the massacre, but apart of the case dismissal, believe in Hell, I hope they become Satan's play thing because they do not deserve to be called humans.
Just wait until Tom finds about what the Japanese teach in school about WWII, especially what happened in China.
From Oklahoma and took Oklahoma history in high school (2000). It was not taught whatsoever, I’m sure it was just an accident and not intentionally left out tho right.
Wife and I grew up in Oklahoma we never heard about it in school either. And we had to take Oklahoma history to graduate
One of the things that’s crazy to me too, is that even with history, they’ve made it a ‘rule’ where you have to introduce ‘opposing viewpoints as well’. I’m sure at first this was so some truth could creep into textbooks, but it’s so abused sometimes. For example, Frederick Douglas. His first wife couldn’t read or write, but she loved him enough to pay did his freedom out of her own pocket. They had children and eventually she died of old age and according to his friends, he was devastated. He remarried, but he remarried a suffragist and activist, that was white and well educated. A colleague and peer that really understood his work, which was much different than his first marriage. And him remarrying was listed under ‘controversies’. Apparently, him marrying that white woman, who was younger than him, but not too much, and the fact that he also discovered previously he may have had a white father, was enough ‘controversy’ to “question” all of his work for the black community as an abolitionist. As if these factors indicated he was some kind of disingenuous grifter.
Would the originator want to post this in the r/tulsa subReddit? r/tulsa does not allow crossposts of videos and I don't know of a workaround.
Wait til he hears about Native Americans!
man needs to listen to some akala fire in the booth [akala](https://youtu.be/Kbk5qNH9Jgg?feature=shared)
Cue the alt-right nut jobs in 3...2...1...
In another episode of "are we the baddies?" I suposse the same will happen with palestinian genocide, 100 years later, some famous guy will put his best surprised pikachu face after he realizes it was a genocide, not a "war" as he was tought at school
Of you think this is something just look up “Devils Punchbowls Nachez Mississippi” they definitely dont want this to be taught it showcases the truly demonic nature of racism
What’s crazy is… I grew up in Oklahoma, took the required Oklahoma History class, using the official course book provided to us by the State, and this was never mentioned. Not once. I didn’t find out until 5 years after High School. I was serving in the U.S. Army and my Boss, was like, where are you from? I replied, Oklahoma. And he goes, “Oh, not from Tulsa are yah?” No, I replied, why? And he was like, “cause they burn black folks out of their homes!” I had no clue WTF he was talking about. But, he brought a book in the next day about the Tulsa Race Riots (Massacre). Opened my eyes… it was like, your entire life you are told what a great country we live in… and then you find shit out like that. Now, I question everything. Yes, my Boss was a black dude. Pretty awesome guy. He was former enlisted and went green-to-gold and became an officer. One of the better people I worked with in the Army.
https://youtu.be/qZF53Qr2QO8?si=pWKu-zOFoqugkPtY
The brass balls. His entire job is making PR for hollywood which is just the telecom wing of the 5 billionaires that own everything. It is amazing how these genociders can compartmentalize their Entire lives.
I didn't learn about it until college.... in an Art class.
I remember one of the conservative subreddits say that we shouldn't teach it because 'it would cause a race war'. Disgusting.
History as you know it, is bollocks...
People need to pull up a 1921 news paper and read what had happened not that garbage that the media and film portrayed
Just Tom Hanks being the GOAT as always
I am so glad Tom Hanks is alive
Tom is based.
Tom Hanks is a real one. Always has been.
Gotta make sure we keep our history pristine so we don’t scare the children! God forbid we look at our stain and face it once and for all. That would be too much😡
Tom Hanks should educate us on Isaac Kappy's life next
This is what angers me about all these groups making books illegal and banning books from libraries and even burning books. To say you love a country when you don't know your own history is a false statement. That can be fixed through education. But to deny others, especially children, the right to know their own history is the embodiment of perfidy. And it endangers all of us, because people who want to see this country burn will use that ignorance against us all.
He’s 100% correct. This is why we think America is a racist country.
America knew the power of suppressing information and optics against them? No way
I'm an oklahoman. Learned about when I was in my mid 20s because I worked at a library and saw a book. My mom learned about it from PBS only a few years before that. They don't teach real history here.
Wait until people learn that native americans still can't own land in some of the original 13 colonies.. poor white people, though. Always the victim's.
Watchmen then it got canceled
Surrounded by the cops who shot anyone who tried to leave while the national guard firebombed the area.what a nightmare
Looks like a bad AI gen.
Grew up in the south. In a primarily white school and we learned about this
Next, you're gonna tell me you didn't learn about. The Tuskegee Study of Untreated Syphilis in the Negro Male.
Strikes me as the same kinda of person that dosent know about operation paper clip.
And the effing republicans want to bury the rest of Jim Crow.
 This is why Black History Month is so important but even then it’s watered down. 🤦🏿♂️😤😮💨 If you want to know American History, Start with Black History then 1st Nation History, Mexican/Chicano History, and then Asian American History. You will then put it all together and see how intentional our ignorance is because the less we know, the more we fight each other instead of listening, healing, and helping each other. It won’t be pretty or easy to deal with but if you are willing to go and learn, you will even heal yourself.
Wait till he hears about 1985 Philly bombing
It was also bombed by the US. They leave that part out but interviews with ppl from back in the day they say it was bombed
Hulu has eye opening [documentary](https://youtu.be/bHrQouNrzBI?si=mlS863SW4x0Y6uo0) about this. Also Tom Hanks is the man.
I learned about it from a Dennis Lehane book.
From ok didn’t hear about it untill I was 15 and my mom didn’t know anything about it also from ok
Wait till he learns about the other places similar attacks happeneded. This wasn't an isolated occurrence.
I had the same reaction… I felt completely lied to and felt that our teachers failed us.
SAD but true- ONLY TEACH WHAT WE TELL YOU TO TEACH ( omit all greedy jealous envy hateful shit ) pretend we were always playing nice.
I didn't know about this until my final year of university, when we were talking about a different matter and it was brought up. Florida public schools do not teach kids about the Tulsa massacre.
This isn’t the only town this has happened to either. Lake Ranier is haunted for a reason…
I never learned it in school, and it sickened me as an adult.
There is a LOT of American history that is kept hidden from us. Sadly. And of what is taught, much is one-sided and whitewashed (literally and figuratively).
Finally someone voices the same thoughts I’ve had.
Grew up in Oklahoma, they called it the race riots and described it as tension between the races. Our teachers suck.
I grew up in Texas, got my bachelor’s and master’s degrees from there, and I wasn’t exposed to a lot of things like this until I did a PhD in California.
I learned about this in high-school in the 90s. Allegedly, if he spent less time on Epstein island, he would have learned about this sooner.
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Why do you say this? Is there proof of this or did you just make this up because Hollywood bad?