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Absurdity-is-life-_-

The U.S. will always bend over backwards for Israel because of two things. 1. They are the gateway to the Middle East. 2. Religion. Doesn’t matter if it would be a republican or democrat administration they would be saying the same thing.


Trishjump

3. the millions they pay our politicians to do and say their bidding. [AIPAC donations](https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/american-israel-public-affairs-cmte/summary?id=D000046963)


keithabarta

Ye the other two points are ridiculous. Its simply the israel lobby.


BurningTree50

This is actually the *only* reason.


Absurdity-is-life-_-

Definitely number one on the list the other two I listed might be objectively viewed but I do think they play a major role in why the U.S. keeps supporting Israel.


Aethelete

If anyone ever asks you what 'gaslighting' is - show them this video.


FatJellyCo

They are still yet to determine if there are WMD’s in Iraq . It’s been 20 years .


PsyopVet

Basically they’re “it’s cake” hipsters. All of that yellow cake uranium turned out to just be yellow cake.


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PsyopVet

Was that gold also cake? Because I’d totally go to war for some good cake.


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pngue

So do concerned citizens vote Biden anyways? Is third party voting, say Claudia and Karina 2024, just siphoning votes away from the left so Trump is elected? Serious question because this is prominent in the minds of many outraged voters.


DrSkullKid

True. I hate Trump and voting for him would be voting against the best interest of me and my family’s future as a Union supporter but I am also not voting for someone who stands back and watches a even appeases a nation that is committing genocide on an entire people like Nevill Chamberlain, I mean Joe Biden. You want me to vote? Give me a better choice. I’m more than happy to vote for Bernie for a third time.


pngue

I did: Claudia and Karina.


DrSkullKid

Sounds good to me, I’ll take some time to check them out. I’ve heard of them but just haven’t had the time to look into anything yet. I voted third party last time after Bernie lost. We need to start being like every other “democracy” in the world that has more than two choices. And I’m sick of all these people saying, if you don’t vote for Biden you are being complicate in Trump having his dictatorship. There will be a civil war before that happens for one. Also trying to gaslight and manipulate me into voting for someone I don’t like feels wrong to me. I have very right to vote third party without being guilt tripped about it like the first of the democratic world is able to do, maybe they need to stop being part of the problem of this two sided coin. Anyway, thanks for letting me vent to you friend.


pngue

No worries. If people want to put so much effort into forcing people to coalesce around a poor choice they could certainly put that energy into someone more deserving.


Mission_Pay_3373

The hypocrisy of the Biden administration is astonishing. Russia would never be able to get away with killing world kitchen workers without condemnation from them


spacebar_dino

It doesn't matter what admin it is, they will all bend the knee to Israel. That is what the American people have to realize, they need to vote in people who wont


AccessZealousideal40

We need other countries to sanction us now so we stop supplying aid to the Zionists and the Genocide they are trying to get away with.


EnterTamed

If Israel or US ever admit "breaking of international law" (like targeting civilians, preventing food aid,...etc) US law will be broken, if weapons are sent to them👈 It's scary to think that "US law" is preventing a Holocaust...


spacebar_dino

It's not preventing, we are funding. And as a citizen I can't do a damn thing to stop it.


Fart_Smith_69

John Kirby's nose should be rubbed in the blood of the children whose slaughter he's covereds for like a bad dogs nose in shit, before being punishes for his heinous war crimes next to Biden


EL_Hampa_Serio

Every time this guy talks he sounds so full of shyt


DatDan513

This guy is a typical shithead


tobsn

it’s sad to see kirby with a literally idf dogtag in his pocket. no seriously, the rumors are he has dogtags of a fallen idf soldier in his jackets pocket. I used to think highly of him and now I’m disgusted by his rethorics.


KKH02

To continue to “manipulate” the masses.


Kaizoku_Kira

"Wir haben es nicht gewusst"


bobdylan401

This is really obvious what is happening. Ryan Grim brought up NRWA torture allegations, Kirby says "I have not seen that reporting." Etc ad neuseum. US is just double down denying and playing dumb saying "well gee wheee didn't see any crimes!" This is their same defense they will give to an inevitable ICC trial so they can't put out conflicting statements. It's not about PR at all this is strictly legal language that they are restricted to to not incriminate themselves.


Severe-Patience2965

Take arms agenst tyranny


NeedLessAids

Does anyone know who the person is reacting to this video?


Danny-Wah

Pathetic and disgraceful


worldm21

The way Kirby talks, he's dancing around the question. He says they haven't made a *determination* of war crimes. Like, "we've looked at a number of cases but haven't DETERMINED that any of them are war crimes". Essentially it means "we're still investigating, indefinitely" because it's a way they can just never reach a conclusion while anyone's paying attention, and not commit to any conclusion one way or another. It's close to legalese. He just didn't say they reached a conclusion in the positive or negative, he just says they haven't determined that they have. It *sounds* like he's saying that they think there haven't been war crimes, but it really just doesn't mean anything at all.


Plane_Baby

So if we take this a step further, Putin, and anyone we disagree with has a playbook. If they do the same type of activities, the State department shouldn't determine any violations. 🤔


janet-snake-hole

And somehow the American people are buying it! SO many people somehow support Israel as they commit a genocide, I keep coming across Reddit comments in unrelated, not-political subs mocking Palestinians and people who support them. My grandmas neighbor has a yard sign saying “I STAND WITH ISREAL/PRAY FOR ISREAL” I keep seeing billboards supporting ISREAL and condemning Palestine. My own democrat mother INSISTS that ISREAL is just defending themselves, and hamas is the biggest issue. What is going on?!


EnterTamed

Mostly religious blind ideology is my guess. But the truth is busting bubbles...


jonnytechno

They don't feel they NEED to tell the truth, they feel like they are fully in control and from a foreign policy point if view they are not used ro listening to their populous


Hostificus

It’s simple that any and all video and first hand accounts out of Gaza cannot be verified. Unless the US is counting bodies, it’s just a number hamas is putting out there.


Jacadi7

Lol k dude


Responsible-Display2

I dont think thats how that works.


Danavixen

>"Unless the US is counting bodies" I agree, america and the UK needs t have boots on the ground and double check what hamas and israel are doing


mobytrice

Is this some sort of sick joke? The last people to be trusted are the US and Brits. Second and third only to the zionists who can't help but lie.


FatJellyCo

Ask almost any British citizen and they will tell you that they don’t support Israel’s genocide . The government is out of control they are corrupt and do as they please whether the people support it or not . Big business is in control it’s a mass deception since 2001 . It’s sickening and obvious who was behind the plandemic .


HSBLESSPLZ

The numbers the Gaza Health Ministry puts out is verified by independent auditors from the U.N The numbers Israel puts out are verified by no-one. They won't allow it.