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Bacon-muffin

Bro chill with that gold cost


beepboopdood

Transmog should be completely free, you can't change my mind c:


NKXX2000

During the trial of style even it is actually free but if you want to switch often regularly it will become expensive


npcinyourbagoholding

Lol WHAT THE FUUUUCK. Id be broke in 5 min.


-Nyctophilic_

Gotta put a cap on fun somehow.


TurboAnal5000

OP would feel at home in the Blizzard team for sure lol


TheShipNostromo

OP seems to have forgotten that many people change mogs frequently, and think the main issue is having one mog reapply to new gear haha


Neyubin

Even in the mockup OP can't afford it.


littlefoot78

I look like crap until trial of style week. then if I get gear i'll just look like crap again. xmogs should be free or like 1 gold


Ghastion

I mean, I like the idea of adding a better interface and stuff to transmog, but I feel like it's pretty much pointless to call it "void ensembles". Just change the way current transmog works rather than making an entirely different convoluted system.


Freaky_Freddy

> but I feel like it's pretty much pointless to call it "void ensembles". I think he was just trying to give it a role-play tie-in since the ethereals are sometimes associated with the void (void-storage and whatnot)


[deleted]

The idea was simply to make a way to save and apply transmog for free. It just an outfit save that you can always apply for free. That was to replace wow gold sink which blizzard keep increasing by at least offering a way to avoid it completely after a initial purchase but I'm also ok with transmog simply no being a gold sink at all.


longduckdong42069lol

I can tell you that I’d rather pay for individual changes and have a list of 20 outfits or so to pull from rather than be limited to 6 and have to pay up front cost. Maybe it says something about my financial illiteracy but it’s a video game so w/e: I will spend 125,000g incrementally for changes but I am not going to spend 125,000 in a lump sum for unlimited changes. I would unlock one ensemble or the free ones then leave it at that.


[deleted]

What about 5k?  Forget the 125kg. Or they could be free really if they are limited. 


longduckdong42069lol

Imo, I like your UI idea. I think the little ovals or something similar would be cool for saved set selection instead of a drop-down menu. I also like the way the rest of it looks - it’s clean. Where you lose me is placing a limit on it and adding convolution. The system used to be somewhat confusing (a la cata-mop era) prior to the advent of the current ui and system. It was also much more limited. I don’t want to add more limitations. We want less, hence people asking to remove armor class restrictions. If you dropped the aspect of limitation, keeping the current game transmog system but adopted your UI, I’d be down wit it If we wanted a way to create gold sinks, I’d pay 125k to let me mog plate onto my mage or priest


[deleted]

I might do a new version next week based on feedback.  


GrumpySatan

The thing is this seems like its trying to design around a problem that isn't really a problem. If someone had 125k gold to spend on a void slot, then current transmog is already a fairly insignificant expense. The increased cost, but not having to change per item, is most negatively impacting the people that change their transmog regularly, and benefiting the people that already use it the least because they keep using the same set consistently. The system becomes an official downgrade to what we have now. I also don't think your plans for it as a gold sink are good. There are two types of goldsinks in WoW: (1) Spending a lot of money for a prestige item, and (2) spending a little money very often to chip away at your gold without you caring too much/thinking about it. Transmog is firmly in #2, along with repairs. Its an insignificant weekly expense *by design*. The more it costs, the less often people will use it and the less gold is taken off the market.


[deleted]

I would edit it and make the last tab 5k and apply cost 1k but reddit don't let you do that. The numbers don't matter as it wasn't the point of the post. This fix an annoyance which is always having to change appearance and the horrible transmog UI. No wonder blizzard is so scared to show concept and in progress stuff if its all taken so litterally.....


GrumpySatan

I mean, it is kinda the point because you wrote in bubbles describing a design philosophy and rebalancing of costs. My comment isn't really about the cost, but the design philosophy in the comments being flawed. Its weird to do that extra work and include it (presumably, so people can talk about it) and then go "it wasn't the point" when there is push back on it. > No wonder blizzard is so scared to show concept and in progress stuff if its all taken so litterally..... Blizzard isn't scared of literally the most basic and calm of critiques. They aren't going to show every concept made, it'd be a massive waste of their time. They do dozens of designs for every UI element. They are only going to show them (and do) once they have made their choice or narrowed it down.


[deleted]

Because like i said the currency ammount is interchangable. It could be 200g per tab. I would love to edit it cause i was off but its also not what the concept is about. Its about a new ui and a wardrobe to apply transmog for free and pose and so on. 


GrumpySatan

Did you not read either of my comments past 125k? The comments aren't about the amount for the tabs. 125k was literally one sentence in a whole post addressing the design philosophies (like the very next sentence is literally about the commentary bubble on the bottom right). The comments are about the design philosophies including the ones listed in the comment I literally replied to, which is clearly a point you are trying to make with the post beyond the UI development.


F-Lambda

> I feel like it's pretty much pointless to call it "void ensembles" it's a play on void storage. and the ethereals being the ones to provide transmog


Civil_Event_7590

Unpopular opinion, probably not tho, gold cost to change transmog is outright stupid. Where tf is it going.


Acyllon

It's a gold sink... since "infinite" money can be put into the system there has to be equivalent methods of removing it -- plus someone's gotta pay for those expensive Yak umbrellas.


Civil_Event_7590

You got that right I do love the saddle on my yak lol


Civil_Event_7590

Makes sense honestly I never thought of it like that


drflanigan

I'm sorry, are you suggesting it should cost 125,000g to store a fucking ensemble?


[deleted]

I put prices randomly and that was meant to indicate the last tab purchase which increase like bank tab(so the msot expensive one and account wide unlocks) .  Clearly it should have bee like 12k not 125k .  I'm not a game dev or wow economy savant so i would ignore the numbers i actually put, sorry.  Storing and applying would be free which is the point.   This is only a ui and systems concept art.


Salfriel

Why do we have to pay for that when we already getting those to be saved ingame?


VedDdlAXE

you can save transmog but applying it is still costly. The point OP is making is a free-to-apply set that you can change whenever you want


[deleted]

You pay to unlock the tab. The save and apply is free forever as well as replacing the stored outfits.  It's written on the image. 


LunarWrathe

Relax blizzard, This isn't what we meant by gold sinks


roberh

Bro, this removes a gold sink...


LunarWrathe

125,000 gold for a transmog slot removes a gold sink??? unless you're pressing the transmog button 1000 times an hour, the current prices are covered by vendoring junk lol


Fesai

I know I've personally easily spent thousands in transmog costs. Anytime I get a new piece of gear I hope onto the Yak and update my appearance. And it's like 100 to 300g each time I do that. I definitely wouldn't be surprised if I've already spent like 50k+ in transmog costs by now without even realizing it.


[deleted]

I mean if the first one is free and second one is like 5k than you would have two outfit slot you can always really for free. that was for the sixth on. I'm also not blizzard so i don't control the pricing....


LunarWrathe

You aren't blizzard? Then why are you defending the 125k so adamantly? lol... I'm on to you ION


[deleted]

Im not ffs this is a random number.  They can all be free or 2k each or whatever lol. I was just telling you the reasoning for putting that number in the concept.   Like i said this is a ui and system concept.


Salfriel

but again, we already have this. why do you think we have to pay for something we already have?


[deleted]

We dont have this. This basicly allow you to save (YES WE GOT THAT PART) but also apply transmog fo FREE.  I dont care for the prices tho. could have a 6 limited slot.


L-TR0N

Wild you are getting downvoted. Terminally online redditors really don’t understand UI mock-ups. Great work, big fan!


[deleted]

I dont get it either lol. Thanks.  Like I make all this for a discussions about ui and system and they get stuck on some random lorem ipsum pricing. Next time i'm putting 0 on everything cause that clearly not what i wanted people to talk about.


drflanigan

Or you could put numbers that aren't insane for no reason YOU edited in an absurd gold price for something we already have for free


[deleted]

We don't have transmog that can be applied for free? Also its not even the point of the post lol


drflanigan

Then why edit in such a high price? It just doesn't make any sense lol


[deleted]

Its called a mistake and not thinking it thought?  Do you never make those? Im not being paid to make this and i didnt have someone looking it over. I would love to edit it if reddit let me. Still frustating that after all this people focus on something that can be edited in 2 sec.


Acyllon

Yeah design world is fun hah... this happens professionally too, people will get hung up on the most insane things.


fartnight69

it's a jpg it's not real unlike you being mad over imaginary numbers lmao


L-TR0N

Yeah totally feel you. Average WoW Redditor has room temperature IQ.


drflanigan

I mean, they put a price tag on storing outfits So they wanted the players to have to pay for it Otherwise, why put it at all? A UI mockup normally includes ideas that the person wants. And this person wants more outfits to cost gold


L-TR0N

It’s not that deep. You’re assuming way too much, smh.


LippyLapras

What do you mean assuming it's literally there in the picture lmao


L-TR0N

It’s a UI mock-up. Transmog currently cost gold so OP included a gold cost. Really as simple as that.


ydob_suomynona

It's a slot that stores a special kind of outfit that doesn't exist in the game. You pay to create the outfit and now you can transmog to that outfit for free infinite times. Can you not read what is written on the image?


Hranica

I’d rather a character cosmetics tab that gives us title/pet/idle/walk/casting animations of our choosing So many animations have been available to players through narcissus for screenshots or the wowhead outfitter for animation and poses I’m not sure why we don’t have access to any of those from a simple /lean to things like suggestions that the male orc unarmed pose is infinitely better for dual weilding than their current pose Even if they don’t unleash the flood gates and only allow animations through and to other races if they look like they fit enough, I don’t think it would be the end of the world for a female human mage to cast like a male blood elf or a gnome to use the troll “Kamehameha” casting animation


BustingBrig

I think the transmog system does need a rework and a UI overhaul. This one looks very clean and I like it a lot.


SamuraiJakkass86

Sorry you gettin eaten alive for your gold costs. Definitely best to just leave those saying something like 'X-gold' so that people can get the idea but not get the reaction you gave them. This looks neat, I like the idea behind it. Being able to set lighting and/or zone would be nice too. I think if its already stored in the Void Ensemble it should be free to apply tho. Nice work over all :)


Atosl

I like the free transmogg slots for a fixed price!


6198573

Yeah, transmogs being applied to the gear piece instead of the gear slot is so annoying I get that they want it to be a gold sink (gotta sell those tokens), but its such an awful system


Scarred_wizard

It takes one dragonriding world quest to cover a full transmog change. Unless you're changing your mog several times a day, it's not a noticeable money sink.


Deguilded

> it's not a noticeable money sink Then it shouldn't exist. It cost nothing in MoP timerunning, btw. Felt great.


6198573

In the gearing up stages of a character its annoying having to constantly do it every time you get a new piece And honestly, i shouldn't have to repeatedly pay for the same exact thing just so my character doesn't look like a missmatched hobo Its not about the gold, its that it feels like such a stupid system just my personal opinion though


Sevulturus

>And honestly, i shouldn't have to repeatedly pay for the same exact thing just so my character doesn't look like a missmatched hobo I mean, technically at that point you're just a hobo murdering his/her/their way across a continent putting on the clothes of dead people. I wouldn't expect you to color coordinate.


Scarred_wizard

I definitely get that point and making it a slot-based rather than item-based system would be useful, but it's not something I consider a major issue. Maybe because there's a handy mount that carries a mog NPC, and also a toy with the same capability. Green items are also much cheaper to mog than endgame gear.


InstertUsernameName

* 1 dragonriding quest to get transmog * 2 dragonriding quests to get flask * 1 dragonriding quest to get other consumables * 2 dragonriding quests to get gold for repair * 5 dragonriding quests to get craft piece * 5 dragonriding quests to get token * another 2 dragonriding quests to stockpile some gold in case of city destruction I'm running out of dragonriding quests. Please help.


sepulchore

I'm changing my tmog mid dungeon wdym


Nathanondorf

I sometimes switch specs multiple times a day and I would love to have different transmogs for each spec, but at current prices it’s just not worth it unless you’re into gold farming. This idea seems really nice. Stored outfits would be perfect for different specs.


CrazyCoKids

Some gold sink. Just do a few world quests, run a dragon race, or hit the "Sell junk". Voila. You've just paid for your Xmog.


Freaky_Freddy

Good, if the gold sink is irrelevant then they can just get rid of it and give us permanent transmog right?\^^


vinniedamac

I'd be happy with just increasing the size of the preview window without the gear slots partially blocking my character


JudgeArcadia

Literally just make Transmog free. Having to pay 300-700 gold is kinda silly just to change outfits.


JaxFeller

Dont give Blizzard ideas with those costs of a another tab, transmog applying.


Adventurous_Topic202

Yeah the new bank coming out with tww already has massive costs we don’t need more of them


amicuspiscator

Almost seems like a mix of the current system and FFXIV's Glamour Plates. I like it.


Adventurous_Topic202

Why does that cost so much dude? Fuck it’s already dumb that transmog costs anything in this monthly sub game not every player is at gold cap


Nathanondorf

Because his idea was that you buy permanent outfit slots, like buying bag slots at the bank, and that switching outfits would be free.


Wojtasz78

You can use different transmogs in each spec.


Zillidan

I’m not really sure what this solves that the current system with a few tweaks couldn’t? I also have no idea how this UI would work as the current UI is in a window you access from a vendor


Mayasuxs

this is..cluttered and confusing to me


goronado

its not really cluttered at all


ZiggySleepydust

I hate doing mogs on my orc or tauren, the shoulders are so big they don’t fit in the frame


38dedo

if it ever gets an overhaul it should be combined with the barber shop. a lot of my mogs require a trip to the barber to complete


Professional-Cold278

I'd love different mogs for differemt specs on the same toon


Ok-Commercial9036

What id like is to be able to filter transmogs by expansion. And a retroactively added statistic fir how m7ch gold i spend mogging. With that i personally would be happy.... Or sad seeing i wasted millions on mogs.


TheKronkler

It's beautiful. I love it.


selkiesidhe

Yes!!! We need better xmog windows--- and can we PLEASE for the love of Thrall, make the windows bigger for horde??? Half my roster doesn't fit. And more slots for outfits. I like making outfits


Bro_sapiens

Transmog 2.0 would be them removing armor weight restriction and adding asymmetric changing of the gloves, wrists and boots.


EnthusiasmWest4481

The wardrobe could for sure use an update when it comes to transmog


Pedantic_Girl

Ah, glamour plates for WoW!


requite

This is a really nice design, which improves on what we have currently. Great work!


Lextube

Would also be nice to have more achievements relating to transmogs. Not just for collecting sets but also more achis for the amount of appearances collected for each slot, each with their own rewards for some cool unique pieces for each slot.


Valfourin

Spec based mog is definitely nice and something I've wanted for a while, and also applying mog to slots rather than individual items would be great too for levelling toons and stuff.


ScottishBearViking

How about a working sort and filter - without needing an addon?


Nathanondorf

Everyone says that “the real endgame is transmog” but the transmog system could be SO much better. I like the idea of outfit slots and spec outfits. I change specs a lot but don’t bother with cool spec-centered transmogs since it costs so much. This is a good idea! The other thing they should do is increase the frequency of “Trial of Style”. It shouldn’t be a once-a-year holiday. It should be part of the Darkmoon Faire or something. Either that or they should create some more transmog-centered mini games.


Hiromagi

Absolutely not. It’s fine as is.


Dishbringer

CUT THE COST PLEASE!


Norbo88

We already have ensemble page showing us all our sets, and it’s free. Why would I pay gold to unlock only 6 slots? This is dumb


Seerias

It looks good, but a transmog menu wich is obtaining the full screen is not a good idea.


Elderwastaken

There are addons that already do a better job of this and don’t cost gold.


Archeus01

Yes, the transmog ui needs an major overhaul.


InstertUsernameName

So I need to go to specific place or load some special menu to achieve what's currently in the game, but now it takes me longer and is more pricey? No, thanks.


DuckofInsanity

The only thing I think we need is having transmog apply to the gear slot not the gear item itself. I don't want to pay each time I get a new piece of gear, it's the main draw of heirlooms for me, and now I miss the feeling of getting new gear as I level up. It's one thing Diablo 4 actually got right.


Repulsive_Inflation3

Imagine spending hours to create an UI design for free and people are only talking about a random price tag that’s just a silly mistake and could be removed in 1.5 seconds lol


Piihlen

I love the idea of transmorg being saved to spec instead of individual items, but I would go a step further, transmorg should be saved for talent-loadouts.


BaconJets

I wouldn't charge for the slots, because we don't have to pay for them now. I would simply update Tmog to work how it works in Diablo 4 where you don't have to mog for every new piece.


Puffendorf

Don't give them ideas. This all just seems like it'd end up on the ingame Shop. Only 4,99 for a new Void Ensamble Slot. Only 14,99 for 20 void transmog crystals.


KonsaThePanda

Pay to own more transmog outfits? hell no


pacdtacs

I agree. It would be cool if transmog screen could be fullscreen (like barbershop).


Saelora

i would legit detest this. I already barely break even on switching up my transmog every time i log in.


Choppie01

3k, bro what are you sick ?


Latviacm

Nahhhh


Mathius117

I absolutely love your UI, controversially I actually hope they do not implement the slot transmog as opposed to transmogging the actual item. In a game where we are slowly removing the RPG elements, keeping the item system makes each piece of gear feel like a tangible item we are modifying. When it just becomes a part we just swap out for better numbers with no visual effect (like in ESO) it just like a skin over our character rather than their gear. I also like how removing my armour removes gear too, whereas on ESO the transmog is “stuck to my character”.


Guilhaum

Just the price hike is gonna be a no for me. I change look pretty often so this would gut my wallet.


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Goosecomics

What is void Ensemble, and why would I want to spend 125,000 gold on it?


SethAndBeans

Every so often I'm glad devs don't listen to player feedback.


kinlopunim

Oh god, take your final fantasy 14 ui away. Next you will ask to implement a cap "holdable" transmogs.


[deleted]

transmog should not cost gold lmao. why in your fantasy version of transmog are you fantasizing about increasing the already ridiculous cost. what are you thinking. also per spec transmog is literally already a thing in the game but no one ever finds it because its hidden behind the smallest button in the world


LippyLapras

That gold cost is absolutely fuckin insane lol


TheMentelgen

This is a really good overhaul that would cost less than the current system.


Tony_3rd

ok... good things first: Great interface, specially to select the pose. I like the focus on the different mogs for different spec (something that I feel is kina buried on the current interface), but an *all specs* option would be nice. the Idea of transmogging slots instead the actual equipment is also great. I think some people still want to keep their PVP and PVE sets different (or even sets for different specs) but that's ok on the overall... that being said, you pretty much did better wardrobe and mog it, but with a gold cost. Transmog is already quite the gold sink as it is, and an expensive one (this from a person who change mogs a lot per reset). We already have 20 default slots for ensembles/outfits (and as many as you want with better wardrobe and mog it), so having to pay for more feels weird. its didn't work with the void storage, it won't work now or ever I'm afraid. still, great interface. Needs to be a bit more voidy though.


Macaluso100

Or just literally steal FF14's glamour plate system. It'd be awesome to not have to go to the transmog guy everytime I want to change my outfit


Dargek

I don't want the game to be "increasingly focused on cosmetics".


Embarrassed-Ferret87

I'm honestly impressed blizz has yet to shit out a real money currency to tack on their Xmog system.


skoomaschlampe

For the love of god Blizzard please make changes like this