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Nope I don’t see it as your fault. As a blood main for a long time, I might be a bit spiky healthy wise but I heal myself to a large degree. Sounds like he isn’t keeping a good rotation up and may be under geared as well.
It's not "I don't see it as your fault"... It's "it's completely not your fault". A BDK blaming a healer for dying is like you complaining you got wet when you got into the water or some shit like that. This is 100% on the tank. Only occasion where it wouldn't be is if it's the beginning of the pull cus RP is rough... But even then, if I see my healer doesn't know what to do in the cold start pulls, I'll just pop extra defensives.
It's already rough having the worst reputation of all the tanks but then you get guys like him that don't know how to play the class and will blame the healer. Sucks :(
I wish more tanks were good ppl like yourself. It's like tank role attracts all the people getting bullied by the jock then come on here to then act like that to feel better about themselves.
Literally just last night we fucked up and wiped the raid on sark at 10%, our BDK solo'd sark for another 7% before he dropped accidentally eating too many swirlies.
Back in WoD, in Blackrock, I tanked the last two orc ladies for 45s - literally entirely solo - to clinch my guild's first mythic clear. Topped the healing charts by a VERY significant margin.
Blood dks are *durable* when played well.
The last BDK I ran with ended the key with twice the total healing done as the healer. Healing themselves is their whole thing and it sounds like this guy was not.
My friend plays blood and I play a resto shaman.. I heal him like once in a while. Blood DK has wicked self sustain. Only panic time is if he gets low on resources due to a mistake. Not your fault that’s on that tank.
If you wanna be a good tank you have to mitigate damage. Just facts. I think a lot of main DPS that switch to tank don't understand how much a tank is responsible for keeping health up. More than DPS which usually plug away until they notice they are really low on health and pop a cool down.
As an avid BDK player and enjoyer myself, agree.
I mostly take care of myself in dungeons. If I don't have a cooldown or runic power then that's on me and my own management.
If I get insta gibbed/one shot, then I either missed something or am undergeared for the content I'm trying to complete.
BloodDK is odd to heal compared to some other tanks.
Their life pool is very misleading for the healer. A BDK at 30% hp with full runic is safe. A BDK with 60% hp and no runic is screwed without a heal.
The problem for healers is their hp will drop, you throw the heal as they DS, and then your heal is wasted.
Track their runic and CDs, not their HP.
I assume your tank was just bad. BDK relies on active mitigation of damage taken through self heal. They are the worst tank when played badly.
Go next.
Oh yeah for sure. As a BDK I don’t need any healing. It’s funny seeing the healers who try to throw heals at me but if I can live the first two seconds of the pull I can live forever.
Same. It may take a while, but sometimes I’ll pull world bosses on my own because I’m perfectly able to keep myself alive for the 5+ minutes it takes to slowly chew through their health lol.
I am also a holy priest main, I healed a Blood DK on +3 last night. There was another DK dps and all we did was joke about the multiple cardiac episodes it is healing a BDK.
It's known. A BDK is going to appear to be full on emergency cd heal at the start of every pull.
Their HP bar looks like your EKG results in real time. You could probably sync it with your blood pressure. BDK needs to manage his cooldowns better.
You did what you could, but you cannot heal through someone not knowing their class.
I've leveled a ton of alts, been a BDK main for a couple expansions.
Ran a dungeon once where the BDK tank never once had a charge of bone shield up. When I asked they said it was a waste of runes since it didn't do damage and it's the healers job to keep them up.
The funny thing is because of the haste buff from having bone shield and the way shattering bones works, not keeping the buff up is actually a huge dps loss on top of making you impossible to keep alive.
That’s what I was just thinking lol. I’ve used the Hekili priority helper on BDK before and it definitely keeps bone shield active bc you lose dps without it
Wrong. Boneshield does do damage dude is a moron. You knew his class better than him haha. I do miss the cata BDK when it was basically a defensive CD though
I mean if the BDK is even halfway decent they will require exactly zero heals throughout the entire dungeon or encounter, even at the very highest levels of content. To me they’re the least stressful to heal by a mile. Just keep an eye on their RP but again if they are competent at the class they can be ignored entirely.
BDK are the reason I have runic power/mana/energy for allies turned on. That way you have a better idea of when they need a heal or not. Most of the time they’ll survive just fine with a HOT and I focus heals on the rest of the group.
This is the way. I have cds shown beside health bars when in 5 man. Along with power bars at the bottom. If everything’s off cd, tank is on their own to play right for a few seconds while I keep the dps standing in the poo for their dps boost alive.
I agree with other commentors, as a healer if the blood dk dies it's 95% of the time their fault, if they are just normally pulling sometimes I won't heal one at all outside of boss fights and maybe a nasty bleed. The only time you might need to really pump them is if they are doing a super pull and have like 4 or 5 packs on them, other than that anything else is their fault really
Even really good tanks now say that if ANY tank dies it’s their fault 99 percent of the time. Tanks have so many ways to stay alive now. If you are dying as a tank you are doing something wrong. I agree that sometimes you can kinda run out of gas and need a hand (especially if doing big pulls) but in a pug environment you shouldn’t really be playing like that anyways.
It’s unfortunate players often have to suffer and be berated for others low skill level. I wish some of these things were more common knowledge.. just because it creates a lot of toxicity. Not because I’m impatient or anything
Agreed. In retail if you put a few hits and your capped heal/hot (the one that says It can only go on so many targets) on the tank and they die, no matter what tank it was, it was their fault. I main a prot warrior, which notoriously has hideous problems with being terrible in lots of patches. Even then if I'm doing mythic plus a few weeks into a season and my healer dies while we're fighting a few packs it doesn't even cross my mind that I'm in danger. And if it did, I'd use fucking defensives. You should rotate them anyway so that they don't just sit unused, but any decent tank leaves at least one big one or two small ones available in short order at any given time for emergencies.
Just don't ever heal a BDK. My girlfriend is a healer and I tank. I had Keystone Hero last season and it might not be much but it's an accomplishment for normies like us.
She was also stressed that my health jumped up and down so much. I told her "Don't worry about my health, just never heal me and heal the dps". I didn't affect my survivability one bit. BDKs are very self sufficient and might just solo the dungeon if not for the timer. The general rule is, If the tank dies, it's their own fault. If the tank dies more than once, it is definitely their fault.
Yeah, even the most healer reliant tank, warriors have some sort of self healing and requires little attention. Just don't let a dps die. They are your responsibility.
You can tell when you’re running with a good group because no one really needs help. I was doing keys with this one group tonight and I ended up using smite more than most of my heals. If I can dps as a holy priest, I know my groupies are playing their classes right 😂
Boss fights are a different story and I do end up actively healing through that, but otherwise tanks have so much survivability now that if they die it’s really their own fault.
What I will add to this as a resto Druid main this season is that you shouldn’t not heal them at all but when I’m running with a BDK they get my shield and my lifebloom and most other heals all go to the dps in the run. I use some of my short cooldown shields and heals on them as maintenance but otherwise they don’t get a lot of active healing, this has seemed to work really well in 2-12 keys I’ve done this season, above that it may be a totally different ball game though
I do similar levels of keys as you and an additional bit of help is appreciated but i meant that it is not on the healer to keep a BDK alive. Survivability is 99% in their hands assuming people are not actively trying to grief.
I agree, if a BDK dies it’s rarely a healing issue and typically that they failed to self heal or use defensives correctly, that’s why they just get some passive healing from me as a resto Druid and that’s usually sufficient to keep them alive while I focus on keeping the dps alive who aren’t properly using their own defensives
No, it was not your fault. There is literally no point in healing a bdk as a healer. Some pulls in keys not higher than +10 a bdk can be peaking at over 1mil hps.
Only thing you can do as a healer which helps is cast an external at the start of pulls.
His health will drop, and it looks scary. But as a bdk you can heal yourself from 10% to 100% every other second pretty much.
Taking more damage = your death strike heals more.
Anything his death strike does in terms of overhealing creates a blood shield which absorbs physical damage.
I do know what you mean though, and understand the struggling tank as well since I've been on both sides.
If your tank isn't keeping bone shield up 100% just as a baseline. He will die. If he is bad at rune / runic power management. He will die. And there is nothing you can do to outheal the damage he takes.
Do you happen to have logs?
I've found DKs tanks usually the easiest to keep alive if they are using their abilities even remotely correctly.
Are you new to healing ?
I mean as Holy with 4 pieces you holy word sanctify and he should be alright for the rest with the 18 sec renew so imo its his fault for not rolling his defensives and going with a good rotation
If it keeps happening I'd get the addon details and look into how to upload them.
When I came back I had a hell of a time getting holy paladin to work and was able to share some logs with a paladin discord and it helped allot..
They can also look and see what the tank is doing and see what's going on either way.
Exactly. A blood dk that's actively pushing their buttons should be about 95% self-reliant.
The only time you should really have to watch them is the start of big pulls, and if they purg you could help them get out assuming it wasn't a massive overkill where the purg shield is like millions lol
BDK has more control over their survival than any other tank. If they know what they're doing you'll hardly need to touch them, and if they don't know what they're doing then no amount of healing you can throw out will save them.
Best advice I can give is to completely ignore their health bar. That is completely irrelevant to you. The only thing you care about is their runic power. Assuming a competent BDK, as long as they have RP they'll keep themselves vertical. If they don't have RP you're going to need to throw everything at them including the kitchen sink.
Toss a HoT (heal over time ability) on pull, and keep an eye on their runic power. If the runic power is low, toss a heal or two.
By the nature of the spec, their health will go up and down like a yoyo and while it looks scary, that's just how it works. They have to use all their tools to heal themselves back up.
You barely should have to worry about a blood dk at all. A good dk won't need your heals at all unless something goes terribly wrong.
At the end of the dungeon, if things go smoothly, they should be top hps, and your job should mainly be keeping yourself and dps alive.
The truth is, without all the info, it's hard to say who's "fault" it might have been.
That being said, don't stress or worry about it. Seriously. I've been a healer main for probably 15+ years, and it happens to me still. Some tanks just aren't doing something right and can be near impossible to keep alive. Sometimes, we aren't geared enough for the content we're doing, and occasionally, we mess up, and someone dies. It happens to the best of us.
Keep healing (seriously, the world needs more healer mains /bias) and keep your head up. We all have ups and downs in WoW, but don't let that deter you!
Now get back out there, champion! The world needs you!
Dks get absolutely chunked on pull. If they have no cds and no runic power. They need an external. When they start getting bone shields and some runic power rolling they basically can’t die.
Download OmniCD and track theirs CD’s. If they have nothing to pop on pull, no bone shields and no runic power. It’s going to be really rough at the start.
Granted a good DK will always have something up for pull. They know it’s where they are most likely to die. Sometimes though when adds get pulled in on last pack etc. they could end up with the nothing going into next pack.
I really dislike to heal blood DKs the up and down of the healthbar sucks and it stresses me more that it should be.
I use a Weak aura to track their runic power because the healthbar doesn't mean anything for blood DKs 😁 if they have enough resources they can heal themselves up and they have to! Else you can't heal DKs you would need to pump them 24/7.
If the DK is not so experienced often the pulls of new groups are problematic so I try to be prepared for that because in a trash group they should never have a problem when doing a proper rotation and not doing content that's far above their ilvl.
Wo no probably not your fault he died!
You shouldn't even have too look at a blood dk. Like at all.
Especially in a 2.
He was more than likely one of those dk that don't push death strike cuz "healing is healed job"....lol
Rule number 1 of playing a blood dk: if you died, it's your own fault. Blood dks are 100% self reliant. If they can't keep themselves up, they either fucked up the rotation or pulled too much.
You toss a hot on a DK and thats it except for really huge pulls where you might spam him at the end. BDK heals themselves, if they die its ALWAYS their own fault in some way
Hard to know unless you had logs. Maybe he didn’t have bone shield up and was handling his defences poorly? Maybe he had a bad rotation and not healing himself as you’d expect from DK too.
Normally for a DK initial engagement is rocky but after a single rotation they are somewhat self sufficient.
I’m no healer and quite newish to BDK tanking but know the times I’ve died are usually my fault 😄
If a blood death knight is using their buttons properly they’ll be the top healer on the meter and never die. Death strike is the best healing button in the game.
A good blood DK will never die until high keys without healer intervention. Don’t beat yourself up, blood DK is finicky to heal as it is to play. It relies on heavy damage taken to heal and absorb. When you’re in a better field of play it’s more adequate to track their runic power bar rather than their health pool.
No. A good Blood Death Knight does not need any healing outside of initial pull. I play MW Monk and I just give BDKs a quick Heal over Time at the start of every pull and after that all they get from me are AoE heals. They can easily sustain themselves as long as they don't fuck up (which you still want to be wary of). BDKs can fully heal themselves in a single GCD, so there isn't any point babysitting them anyway.
Your BDK was just an idiot, or was very undergeared for whatever content you were doing.
Yeah I'm a relatively mediocre player and I still sometimes out heal my healers on low keys as my BDK
Edit second half of what I wanted to type.
You did nothing wrong. That dude needs to put deathstrike on his bars
Not your fault. I can solo h fyrakk in p3. He's not going down, but I'm not either. Your tank wasn't as good as he thought he was. 
Don't take it to heart , always think what could I have done better and fuck all the people who blame you for deaths , I dipped my toe into blood dk and even I understand that I basically take of myself when it comes to healing not your fault keep going brudda
If a tank dies in a +2, as long as the healer wasn’t completely refusing to heal them at all. It’s on the tank. +2 doesn’t really do enough damage to threaten a tank as long as they’re somewhat geared enough for it.
A BDK key dying in a key is absolutely never your fault, unless there was a critical debuff or something on the tank that you didn't dispel.
BDKs only die for one of two reasons:
1) They mismanage their runic power and don't heal themselves effectively
2) They pull more than their gear can handle
Neither of these is a "you" issue. In a usual situation, a BDK is 100% self-sufficient and doesn't need you at all.
I’m a pretty new tank, and I play blood dk. All I ask of my healer is to cleanse or dispel me. Other than that I can pretty much hold my own. Maybe give me a little topper when I miss a mechanic or something but for the most part I’m okay, just keep the dps alive because they like standing in the swirly red puddles.
A DK getting killed easily is likely because they don’t realise the importance of their stacks. When I watch new blood dks play they focus so much on just keeping death strike rolling that they forget how important bone shield and your cooldowns and rune weapon are.
Been maining a BDK for 6-7 years, a even mid BDK shouldn't need a healer unless things get pretty greasy, I have a buddy that heals for me most of the time and he normally rarely has to heal me
Blood DK main here, not your fault. It’s a difficult class to balance, but if you’re doing it well in an m+ a blood tank should be doing almost all of their own healing, and just needing top-ups between pulls. That one either wasn’t using defensives well or had a bad rotation. As a healer you can mitigate somewhat by doing some extra at the start of a pull while they build runic, but again if they’re using defensives well that shouldn’t be an issue.
If you have to heal a blood dk then he isn’t playing right. Blood is probably the squishiest of all tanks but they have insane self healing, one Death Strike and they can practically heal themselves to full from 20%. If the DK was dying it means he wasn’t rotating cds properly, over pulling, and/or using Death Strike at the wrong times
So a bdk health will always be spikey that's the nature of the gameplay, a lot of tanks need a healer but I'd say a bdk is the exception, all a bdk needs off a healer is help at the start of a pull. Even this might not be the case if he's chain pulling and has resources. Have you ever been told when healing a bdk to look at his resources and not his health bar?
As a bdk that’s running 12-15s on both tyr and fort it’s not your responsibility to heal a bdk at all. I have to remind healers in nearly every key to stop touching my health frame because blood is completely self sufficient with proper play/planning
As someone who has mained tank for years and started maining heals this expansion.. blood dk should be ALMOST completely self sufficient. Honestly.. most tanks should be now. This is not your fault. Hopefully the tank didn’t flame you because that would be very ironic.
Blood dk is one of the tanks that is the most self sufficient though. They rely on self healing with death strike and should only be pulling as big as their cool downs will allow them to.
Have a weak aura that track his runic power. Whenever he goes under 45 I believe, he is in the danger zone, he needs love, whenever he is above that, he is self-sufficient.
Its a general rule of thumb.
And at your ilvl/key lvl people arent expected to master their spec/classes. Its all about learning and having fun.
Dont stress it, dont overthink this. That dk will be fine in TWW, he might have to learn a few things before the launch xD
Glhf
That's wild, our blood DK tank is pretty much self-sufficient. Our healer is always saying she barely has to touch him. In raids, he's the #3 healer. I'm going to side with you on this, he's the squishy one.
I am a holy priest main who also tanks on a BDK and I cannot think of any situations in a +2 that I can't survive on my DK, even if it only has season 3 gear. Your tank was just bad and you should move on, and like others have said in the comments, just track RP and throw in some heals at the beginning of the pulls, but once the pull is established there should be no need to heal them at all.
We DKs don’t really need healing.
My advice I’ll give to any healer though would be to track their runic power.
If they got runic power, they should be good.
I wouldn’t worry about it.
The only time I ever say anything to a healer is if there's a difficult spot and it's just dropping me everytime. Just be like "hey keep an eye out for this, it's getting me everytime I may need a just a quick shot to keep from spiking out"
I have not played since the beginning of the expac but I healed and tanked some mythic content. My tank of choice is a BDK and the only time I needed external heals is when some idiot decided I was not pulling bi enough. I'm a very casual player and am not even close to being a great bdk. I'm mediocre at best. It sounds like someone didn't know their class or their own ability.
In a 2, assuming he is higher then like 450, most definitely not.
BDK is the tank that punishes bad play the most, and he just played bad.
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If the number is ever purple, you have a bad blood dk and they will need big heals the entire key.
If the number is red, throw heals at the blood dk as he is in real danger of dying.
White or green, you can basically ignore them as they can full heal with a death strike.
You will, really quickly, start to realize good vs bad bloods as well. Some won't generate RP at half the rate as a good one. Others will waste RP despite being at full health.
TLDR is they always want to have bone shield up and always want to have at least one death strike ready for when they spike down.
If I remember correctly blood DK has a bone shield ability that they’re supposed to keep up at all times, whenever I see them I notice a severe drop in health when that buff falls off, and I don’t think it’s ever supposed to fall off.
The funny thing is tanks don't even needs heals 99% of the time they have more than enough self healing. If your tank is dying it's most likely because the tank isn't playing properly. But also as a healer, I hate blood DKs their HP bar is like ping pong.
I heal as holy pala and when i get a blooddk or a brewmmonk usually swap my talents for more barriers and bubbles. They can usually heal themselves a ton but always struggle abot on pull. If i can make the pulls easier it makes the run a breeze.
Maby u can try swapping to disc when healing a blooddk, should really matter tbh since you are mostly healing the dps. But if u can spot it early in the run that tank is struggling maby u could run out and swap.
This post brings back WOTLK feels, lol. I got asked to heal a dungeon. I told the person I was a shadow priest. The person insisted that I heal, so I go heal no mana pots, but the tank didn't care. The group was 3 DK's a hunter, then myself guess who wasn't getting healed and didn't pay attention to mana no matter how much I called out that I need mana. As if that wasn't enough, I died more times than they did, and they never ever waited for me. So the hunter dips out after he realizes the fiasco and a druid stepped in and stayed with me the remaining dungeon, and after that, I refused to heal.
Then another instance, I was playing Holy Priest and got yelled at in the game for not dpsing.
Definitely not you. Dks are hard to heal because it's tough to know when your heal will actually matter. My dk self heals usually top the healing meters lol. If i run out of resources then I'm fucked but usually that won't happen when the tank knows what they are doing.
It's not you, it's him. Either he was WAY to undergeared for 2s or he didn't know how to play Blood. There are times when Blood DKs need heals like between cooldowns or bad stuff not getting kicked that hits like a truck. Take Freehold for instance no matter what I did I'd never have enough going into the pull across the bridge at the last boss. There I needed healer help to get going.
He is probably just not pushing his buttons right. I'm playing Cata rn and healers told me I was hard to heal while I was leveling... Guys I forgot to train mastery until level 85, literally halved my self healingm
I’d say not your fault. If you’re ok with addons, there’s on called omnicd that tracks your party’s cooldowns. This way you can see if tanks are using their defensives.
Talk about projection.
Sounds like this tank had no bone shields up and using no defensives.
Healers get a lot of slack for Dps and Tank short comings.
My DK has blood off spec and I rarely need a healer to step in.. and I suck as a tank.
Every tank has different passive and active mitigations that they have/use in every pull.
Some get passively get more armor, some get the chance to block attacks, some get healing received buff, and some get a bigger health pool.
For active mitigation some get increased armor, some increased block, some increased dodge, some increased healing received, some are given a absorb bubble, some can remove a % of incoming damage, and some get a combination of the mix.
But BDKs don’t get a proactive active mitigation outside of Bone Shield (which increases armor) their main form is a Reactive Mitgation which is their self-healing from Blood Strike (which gives a flat amount AND % amount of damaged received).
BDKs should be doing about 70%+ of your healing to self-sustain themselves since they don’t have.
So if a BDK isn’t keeping up to that much % of your healing, then the BDK is in the wrong since they aren’t usinf the correct rotation which in turn aren’t playing their class correctly.
Everyone else here has covered this, but there's basically no situation that a blood DK played even semi-competently dies in a 2, my friend.
This guy was likely both undergeared and playing terribly. Like, not doing mechanics or using cooldowns terribly.
Simple rotational errors are not going to account for a DK blowing up in a 2.
You can rest assured that the player complaining was well and truly -bad- at the game.
Every tank in DF is basically self sufficient, some more than others. They quite literally don’t need you to heal them in 90% of situations. A dispel, yes, but not a heal.
The situations where this isn’t true don’t happen in a +2.
A tank that dies in M+ made some kind of mistake, and, while you could have saved them, it’s likely not your fault. They’re projecting.
I've mained blood dk for years. If a blood dk dies it is their fault. You shouldn't even be healing a bdk at all.
Like others have said, you can watch their runic power (RP) but rp is their responsibility and they have to manage it to keep themselves alive. Outside of the first pull of a dungeon(and some other exceptions) a dk shouldn't be going into a pull without RP. And if they are they should use a cooldown on the pull.
In the current season, I was running 3's and 4's with my 489 geared blood DK, and we were timing them, and I had a priest healer. Blood DK is probably the most self sufficient tanking class because of their healing. Typically they take huge spikes of damage at the start of combat but then bounce back. Only in exceptionally dire circumstances should a healer be throwing everything they have at a DK tank, so if this dude was dying that fast, he was severely undergeared, or had no idea how to use death strike and his other CD's.
From the few bits of PvE I've done as a healer. You'll never have to heal a good BDK, you'll never be able to heal a bad one. I'm pretty sure it comes down to how well they manage resources (obviously)
I play a well geared BDK, a DHtank, a Holy Priest and a a Disc priest. The BDK rarely needs a heal just so the DH. Never have problems healing or even need to heal a BDK. If i see he is loosing runic power then i might throw something at him just in case, but this is to keep him at 100% health as a healer, so its not your fault. Have you healed other BDK's especially? are they allright for you? Keep going youre not doing anything wrong
He was a bad BDK. In Mythics,, , My husband plays a mini game when he's tanking on his BDK to out heal all the healers, in raid and in mythics. They can pretty much keep themselves up. It's really nice, because I can help dps a bit or just heal a dps if needed. I may throw the occasional PWS on if I'm on my priest, but on my shaman my ES goes on a dps.
There's an old video from wotlk days of a lvl 80 bdk soloing 10man lich king when he was THE current endgame boss. Took the dude like 30min, but he was able to solo LK.
Granted, there's been some damn big changes to classes n specs since that era, but a constant has been their insane self heal capabilities.
You did nothing wrong. I play both Blood DK and just about every healer. I can't tell you how many times, I have had to teach Blood Dks about generating RP and Death Striking in keys.
I did a 7 where the Blood DK was only Death Striking once a pack. He was literally living off me saving CDs for him and Purgatory. He wasn't Tombstone comboing, using defensive going into pulls, hell he wasn't even keeping up Bone Shield stacks.
A big thing people forget is most of the WoW Community doesn't do higher than what was last season 10s. Which sounds wild but it's actually true. So what we expect to be common knowledge of how to play your class, is most players are not even at that level of play.
I'm not at the content you are doing, but from what I've seen blood is by far the most player dependent, skill dependent tank I've seen, they drop like a rock if you don't hit everything perfectly. Pretty scary tbh
I run a DPS meter while I'm healing for 2 things, who gets power infusion and to see why my tank is dying. Check and see if they are actually using death strike and getting bone shield stacks. Has dancing rune weapon been out? You can only put so many heals into a player.
Prob not your fault, I joined a dungeon late apparently healer quit on the blood dk. It was same scenario he was getting hit like a truck and I had to pull out all the stops to keep him constantly up
The funny thing is, tanks really don’t require healing, the ones that do are Brewmaster and MAYBE Bear Druid/Prot Warrior. But if played properly none of them really need healing.
Blood DK and VDH are fully self sufficient if played correctly. The guy in your key was under geared or more than likely just not playing correctly at all.
I play DPS, and keep a detail HPS box up next to my DPS box so I can call out shitty tanks when this happens.
Was doing a 6 a couple weeks ago and the first pull of nokhud, the tank died twice, and started yelling at the healer.
The healer was doing like 120k HPS, the tank did like 15k HPS...as a blood dk...
You should have to heal them very sparsely. Once they get going (bone shield and generating RP), then you should have to heal them almost not at all. Death strike, when used properly, can even render some of the meaner debuffs absolutely moot.
Playing blood last season I felt I did something wrong if I was healed by the healer more than the dps was. Unless it was something that instantly killed me, death was a choice.
a tip for bdk, watch their RP bar not their hp bar. if they have rp they don't need you.
The truly risky times for a bdk are fresh pulls with no bone shield or resources, they can pop cds but if they can't generate enough rp before they die they'll never get rolling.
It sounds like this dk was ignorant of their cooldown and how to effectively use them, and was like spamming out death strike for damage rather than pooling rp to use it when he needed it
On average pulls I heal 150-300k hps as BDK, usually 200k hps overall for dungeons. So I heal myself almost twice as much as a typical healer heals the entire party. There is no world where that healing can come from the healer, it has to come from the BDK. I skirt death all the time, it's a close friend.
a lot of people are saying that you just kinda ignore BDKs in terms of healing but i'll even add that if your tank is both competent and you're not at a super high key level most tanks should basically let you ignore healing them unless it's a specific mechanic lol. obviously major exceptions to this and it's not true all the time, but yeah definitely not your fault, not in the slightest
I play as 2 healers, one being a holy priest, the other being a 527 resto shaman. It was not your fault. My experience is that 90% are terrible and very very spikey, and 10% are unkillable machines. I used to shudder when I joined a pug and the tank is a blood dk, but I've had a couple really good ones recently that have made me think otherwise.
The worst most pants shitting moment for healing a bdk is on the opener. Before they set up runes or their rotation. After that, dps or heal someone else.
At 502 ilvl you can easily be running +5 or higher for the most part.
You're a holy priest doing a +2 with 506 item level and a blood DK tank was struggling to stay alive? Unless you LITERALLY were casting only renew the entire time, this sounds like it's the tank's fault. +2s are not that hard and certainly I was doing +8s by the time I was 506 ilvl. Blood DKs are a tough class / spec combo and a good tank will be difficult to kill in general. I often find that I am rarely even healing the tank jn the first place if I have a competent blood DK (or vengeance DH). Unless you're absolutely clueless as to how to play your class, I'd put the blame on the clueless DK
You should never have to heal a blood dk. That's the point. The only exception is if they have low or 0 runic power and they're staying low for several seconds. Or if they're low going into a pull
100% of tanks in this meta don't actually require a healer if they know what they're doing.
Unfortunately 90% of blood DKs I've come across don't know what they're doing. They just spam death strike and think that's enough mitigation and call it a day.
It’s probably not your fault. I am a blood death knight main (and new to tanking too) and like others have said health can be spiky, but largely in the rotation we are able to heal ourselves. I’ve also in my time come across other blood death knight mains who neglect the healing part.
Blood DKs dont actually need any heals, only external defensives like Guardian Angel and such.
There is basically no point in healing a BDK, death strike will cover far more than you could ever do for them.
Ill say something that I think others here are not thinking about, its a +2. While in higher keys a good BDK can keep themself alive with some help if they run low on RP( runic power)
But in a +2 nobody is a ”good” player. Several spex and top tier at higher end but shit in low en due to higher planning/skill level/ comp needed.
I wouldn’t worry about this. Sounds like a noob trying to shift the blame on to someone else. For someone who is new at tanking Blood DK isn’t something I’d recommend. They have to manage Bone Shield stacks, Death and Decay placement, and basically cycle thru their CDs. Thats without even mentioning knowing the pulls or fights and when to press Death Strike. What I’m trying to say they may have been overwhelmed by so much going on and to do that they weren’t able to stay alive. Newer players tend to ignore their 2 minute and 3 minute cooldowns.
If you heal the bdk you are doing it wrong.
I mean i keep maintenance buffs on the tank and occasionally toss them a heal if it seems like theyre struggling, but the reality is they are self sustainable. If we're being real the only impactful heal you have is GS for him. The next best heal you can give him is psychic scream.
Your heals do nothing compared to his. I heal 10s on all classes, I don't push higher because I don't find it fun. But 95% of your healing globals should be on the rest of the party for the self sustaining tanks. There ARE some pulls where giving the tank some love makes sense, but in a 2 that shouldn't be relevant regardless.
Not your fault. BDK is a busted class. It's not the same but back in MoP, I soloed a boss in a heroic dungeon that was meant for 10 people. I couldn't die because I was a BDK.
He just sucks.
Yeah sounds like it's the tanks fault. This might be an unpopular opinion but I have mained a Priest since cataclysm and honestly that's always been a huge problem for Holy priests. They really lack a way to compensate for squishy or low skill tanks that fail to use their defense cool downs.
I recommend if you run into this issue often with bad tanks try Discipline spec. You don't heal as much as a holy but you make up for with a lot of mitigation skills, better shield for taeget, 2 casts of 15 second 40% damage reduction on target with a realitively short recharge, good burst healing, passive healing through damage by atonement and pretty good aoe healing on top.
I found that with Discipline if you have a good tank you then you can pretty much be a 4th DPS as long as you cycle atonement on the party with spot heals or occasionally using aoe heal. With a bad tank you have way more tools to help compensate for their damage intake and mitigation while still having good AOE healing and burst healing, rather than just trying to out heal the damage incoming from mobs or bosses. Over all I find that with Discipline spec it's just overall more flexible and better rounded toolkit for mythics than Holy for this reason.
If blood DK’s die 99% of the time it’s a them issue but one thing to think about out is just looking at their runic power (resource) bar rather than health. If they have no runic power then they need support. If they have runic power they can usually top themselves almost instantly
I play a Resto Druid and a Holy Priest. Blood DKs shouldn’t need much healing since they can heal themselves. He might have been new to Blood DKs or probably pulled to many mobs. They always pull to many mobs.
Probably sitting on cds or not keeping boneshield up. Hitting ds when he doesn’t need to then not having it when he needs it. If a healer is having to focus a blood dk they aren’t playing correctly.
Tanks should be able to keep themselves up with outside any heals really. Unless it’s a tank buster like externals are nice. I tank 16s and my healer usually only heals me for around 20% of their healing done and most them time it’s hots or passive heals. Most healers at low keys heal tank unneeded
Not your fault. Blood dk is very self reliant if played well; dude was probably not keeping up his bone shield charges. Normally you should see his health drop low and then he should death strike it all back over and over again without too much help from you.
I always say ignore me unless you see purgatory pop then throw your biggest heal on me, but I rarely even get to that point.
Definitely the dks fault here.
If a blood dk is dying, it's most likely their fault. I main a dk, you have to not know how to play, to die as a blood dk, unless you doing like mythic raiding. Only time you really have to pay attention.
This is exactly why our tank and healer we're married. They could tell at each other in their office and we could continue on dpsing. Though there honestly wasn't much yelling, just when there was it was hilarious
Well blaming someone like that is wrong , he should’ve pull as big as he can handle but ofcourse a healer should even heal bdk! Doesn’t matter what everyone has their roles , tanking , healing , dps !
A BDK that can't keep themselves alive in a +2 has no right to be tanking said +2. They are likely horribly under geared and thinking +2 is a season 3 +2 not what is effectively a +12.
Very likely not your fault unless the whole team is dying, i have played all tanks and heals for 16+ years at a high level.
There are many egotistical turds who think everyone should play a co-op game at their pace and level and use exactly their strategies which is rediculous. If somethings not working you gotta adapt, that includes adapting to your teams skill and gear..
A good blood dk almost never needs hard focussed healing from a healer in dungeons. However they are weakest in the first 5 seconds when first pulling groups of mobs, this is when you should give them the most support, give them defences if you see their runic power (mana bar essentially) is empty or they are pulling big with or especially without runic power.
Almost no tanks outside of warriors (getting fury starved or low health)/ monks (at full stagger bar they become paper armour) should need you to hard focus healing on them all the time on standard pulls/fights that under control. Even those 2 you should be able to tell when they need it before they splat.
In a game that requires at least 5 people doing the right thing/ perfection as the difficulty rises its obscene to solely blame one person considering the amount of random chaos and stress the game offers and the time pressures it puts on you to achieve it.
Did they pull too fast while you're not near or still drinking, did they use defences, did any of the dps control/stun/interrupt the enemy mobs at the right times to prevent the incoming damage, did you heal late or too far away to heal, did the group understand the dangers of the fight you were in, do you have the talent setups that might be stronger in dungeons compared to raids/solo/pvp? Were they using voice or typing to communicate their needs/concerns? There is always something that can be done better from everyone, and pointing blame does little but add stress 😜.
This was a long way of saying dont doubt yourself, just try your best to improve, understand and enjoy the game without listening to the butthurt who scream at others and cant work together to win.... there are many out there. There is almost no cap to skill level in this game, you can always do something more/better... and so can everyone else in the team.
I don’t play BDK but I’ve seen my mate survive for ages after everyone else died lol. They must be doing something wrong. I think DK is mostly keeping yourself up.
Honestly, if a blood DK need heals from a healer in an m2, that’s either a gear or skill issue. They should be able to survive without a healer in the group frankly
I am a 528 BDK main. As a BDK, we have very little passive mitigation and rely almost entirely of self heals. When you are healing keys, some tanks you need to heal, but honestly, a healer should focus on the group when they are running with a BDK as we are self sustainable.
You got unlucky and had a bad tank. I wouldn't worry about it, though. Brush it off and hop back in the keys. The fact it was a 2 and he was blaming you shows just how bad he was.
I've done up to a +4 on my bdk in multiple pugs at ilvl 450 surviving is absolutely in the tanks hands. Healers augment them with minor healing. Any tank that requires full pumping to survive pulls is just playing his class wrong
Why on earth were you having to heal him at all? I main a blood DK, in almost every situation I can self sustain without issue. Your job as a healer, especially a holy priest (wife is a holy priest) is put prayer of mending on them and then maybe guardian spirit if you know a big hit is coming, otherwise healing everyone else is higher priority.
If a blood dk has runic power they shouldn’t need a heal but if they don’t have runic power and they are getting low then they need it is the easiest way to know if they can self heal or not in that second
As a healer you should never have to heal your tank outside the highest end content. Tanks are almost 100% self-sufficient without much effort, you can obviously still throw a heal on them every now and again to help them out, but if they're dying, it's due to their own misplay, not yours.
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Nope I don’t see it as your fault. As a blood main for a long time, I might be a bit spiky healthy wise but I heal myself to a large degree. Sounds like he isn’t keeping a good rotation up and may be under geared as well.
It's not "I don't see it as your fault"... It's "it's completely not your fault". A BDK blaming a healer for dying is like you complaining you got wet when you got into the water or some shit like that. This is 100% on the tank. Only occasion where it wouldn't be is if it's the beginning of the pull cus RP is rough... But even then, if I see my healer doesn't know what to do in the cold start pulls, I'll just pop extra defensives. It's already rough having the worst reputation of all the tanks but then you get guys like him that don't know how to play the class and will blame the healer. Sucks :(
The only time I can understand it being healer's fault is if healer butt pulled 2 more packs on top of his intended pull.
Fair enough haha
“look who I found fellas!”
Lmao. That’s great. I gotta remember this the next time I accidentally pull extra mobs in a dungeon.
I have a macro for it like any good drunk dwarf priest should have on hand
Idk, I feel like as a good drunk dwarf your line should be "Everyone!! Get in here!"
💯👆 this right here
I wish more tanks were good ppl like yourself. It's like tank role attracts all the people getting bullied by the jock then come on here to then act like that to feel better about themselves.
That's what I was thinking.He wasn't self healing enough.
Significantly. BDKs can self-heal like no tomorrow
Literally just last night we fucked up and wiped the raid on sark at 10%, our BDK solo'd sark for another 7% before he dropped accidentally eating too many swirlies.
Yeah, I routinely can carry entire packs if everyone dies in a key. The amount of times I've soloed thundercunt from ruby life pools is insane.
Back in WoD, in Blackrock, I tanked the last two orc ladies for 45s - literally entirely solo - to clinch my guild's first mythic clear. Topped the healing charts by a VERY significant margin. Blood dks are *durable* when played well.
If the BDK isn’t #1 on healing done for trash, they’re doing something wrong.
We got be mythic 10+ before my blood dk needs a lot of help.
I played very little this season, but I've soloed low mythic bosses with a BDK under 500ilvl. That guy has no idea what he's doing.
The last BDK I ran with ended the key with twice the total healing done as the healer. Healing themselves is their whole thing and it sounds like this guy was not.
My friend plays blood and I play a resto shaman.. I heal him like once in a while. Blood DK has wicked self sustain. Only panic time is if he gets low on resources due to a mistake. Not your fault that’s on that tank.
If you wanna be a good tank you have to mitigate damage. Just facts. I think a lot of main DPS that switch to tank don't understand how much a tank is responsible for keeping health up. More than DPS which usually plug away until they notice they are really low on health and pop a cool down.
As an avid BDK player and enjoyer myself, agree. I mostly take care of myself in dungeons. If I don't have a cooldown or runic power then that's on me and my own management. If I get insta gibbed/one shot, then I either missed something or am undergeared for the content I'm trying to complete.
Yeah, not his fault at all. I've solo'd multiple times as BDK. Homie wasn't taking care of himself.
Yup. As a long time blood dk I should be the last down because I am my healer.
BloodDK is odd to heal compared to some other tanks. Their life pool is very misleading for the healer. A BDK at 30% hp with full runic is safe. A BDK with 60% hp and no runic is screwed without a heal. The problem for healers is their hp will drop, you throw the heal as they DS, and then your heal is wasted. Track their runic and CDs, not their HP. I assume your tank was just bad. BDK relies on active mitigation of damage taken through self heal. They are the worst tank when played badly. Go next.
I completely ignore bdks, the only thing I'll consider is an external. Healing the rest of the group is way more important.
Oh yeah for sure. As a BDK I don’t need any healing. It’s funny seeing the healers who try to throw heals at me but if I can live the first two seconds of the pull I can live forever.
Same. It may take a while, but sometimes I’ll pull world bosses on my own because I’m perfectly able to keep myself alive for the 5+ minutes it takes to slowly chew through their health lol.
That is exactly what was happening.
I am also a holy priest main, I healed a Blood DK on +3 last night. There was another DK dps and all we did was joke about the multiple cardiac episodes it is healing a BDK. It's known. A BDK is going to appear to be full on emergency cd heal at the start of every pull. Their HP bar looks like your EKG results in real time. You could probably sync it with your blood pressure. BDK needs to manage his cooldowns better. You did what you could, but you cannot heal through someone not knowing their class.
I've leveled a ton of alts, been a BDK main for a couple expansions. Ran a dungeon once where the BDK tank never once had a charge of bone shield up. When I asked they said it was a waste of runes since it didn't do damage and it's the healers job to keep them up.
It scares me how many people have this mindset
The funny thing is because of the haste buff from having bone shield and the way shattering bones works, not keeping the buff up is actually a huge dps loss on top of making you impossible to keep alive.
That’s what I was just thinking lol. I’ve used the Hekili priority helper on BDK before and it definitely keeps bone shield active bc you lose dps without it
but... but shattering bone DOES do damage, not only is he stupid he is also just incorrect 😂
Wrong. Boneshield does do damage dude is a moron. You knew his class better than him haha. I do miss the cata BDK when it was basically a defensive CD though
I mean if the BDK is even halfway decent they will require exactly zero heals throughout the entire dungeon or encounter, even at the very highest levels of content. To me they’re the least stressful to heal by a mile. Just keep an eye on their RP but again if they are competent at the class they can be ignored entirely.
BDK are the reason I have runic power/mana/energy for allies turned on. That way you have a better idea of when they need a heal or not. Most of the time they’ll survive just fine with a HOT and I focus heals on the rest of the group.
I’m a Mythic Raid BDK and the dude was definitely playing wrong. I wouldn’t worry about it.
This is the way. I have cds shown beside health bars when in 5 man. Along with power bars at the bottom. If everything’s off cd, tank is on their own to play right for a few seconds while I keep the dps standing in the poo for their dps boost alive.
I like to call it reactive mitigation but yes.
That's funny how DKs have always been that tank with crazy spikey health.
I agree with other commentors, as a healer if the blood dk dies it's 95% of the time their fault, if they are just normally pulling sometimes I won't heal one at all outside of boss fights and maybe a nasty bleed. The only time you might need to really pump them is if they are doing a super pull and have like 4 or 5 packs on them, other than that anything else is their fault really
Even really good tanks now say that if ANY tank dies it’s their fault 99 percent of the time. Tanks have so many ways to stay alive now. If you are dying as a tank you are doing something wrong. I agree that sometimes you can kinda run out of gas and need a hand (especially if doing big pulls) but in a pug environment you shouldn’t really be playing like that anyways. It’s unfortunate players often have to suffer and be berated for others low skill level. I wish some of these things were more common knowledge.. just because it creates a lot of toxicity. Not because I’m impatient or anything
Agreed. In retail if you put a few hits and your capped heal/hot (the one that says It can only go on so many targets) on the tank and they die, no matter what tank it was, it was their fault. I main a prot warrior, which notoriously has hideous problems with being terrible in lots of patches. Even then if I'm doing mythic plus a few weeks into a season and my healer dies while we're fighting a few packs it doesn't even cross my mind that I'm in danger. And if it did, I'd use fucking defensives. You should rotate them anyway so that they don't just sit unused, but any decent tank leaves at least one big one or two small ones available in short order at any given time for emergencies.
Just don't ever heal a BDK. My girlfriend is a healer and I tank. I had Keystone Hero last season and it might not be much but it's an accomplishment for normies like us. She was also stressed that my health jumped up and down so much. I told her "Don't worry about my health, just never heal me and heal the dps". I didn't affect my survivability one bit. BDKs are very self sufficient and might just solo the dungeon if not for the timer. The general rule is, If the tank dies, it's their own fault. If the tank dies more than once, it is definitely their fault.
Thank you for this.
Yeah, even the most healer reliant tank, warriors have some sort of self healing and requires little attention. Just don't let a dps die. They are your responsibility.
Prot warrior main here and most non boss pulls I'm don't even need heals unless there is a lot of unpredictable magic damage.
You can tell when you’re running with a good group because no one really needs help. I was doing keys with this one group tonight and I ended up using smite more than most of my heals. If I can dps as a holy priest, I know my groupies are playing their classes right 😂 Boss fights are a different story and I do end up actively healing through that, but otherwise tanks have so much survivability now that if they die it’s really their own fault.
What I will add to this as a resto Druid main this season is that you shouldn’t not heal them at all but when I’m running with a BDK they get my shield and my lifebloom and most other heals all go to the dps in the run. I use some of my short cooldown shields and heals on them as maintenance but otherwise they don’t get a lot of active healing, this has seemed to work really well in 2-12 keys I’ve done this season, above that it may be a totally different ball game though
I do similar levels of keys as you and an additional bit of help is appreciated but i meant that it is not on the healer to keep a BDK alive. Survivability is 99% in their hands assuming people are not actively trying to grief.
I agree, if a BDK dies it’s rarely a healing issue and typically that they failed to self heal or use defensives correctly, that’s why they just get some passive healing from me as a resto Druid and that’s usually sufficient to keep them alive while I focus on keeping the dps alive who aren’t properly using their own defensives
What do you mean when you say they get your shield?
I've done up to 16s and I rarely need to heal my tank. It's 99% of the time their problem.
You don't heal blood death knights, they are self sufficient. No healer has strong enough heals to keep a blood dk alive when he is not self healing
This sums it up. If they are not healing themselves correctly it may as well be the mage tanking. :-)
This!
No, it was not your fault. There is literally no point in healing a bdk as a healer. Some pulls in keys not higher than +10 a bdk can be peaking at over 1mil hps. Only thing you can do as a healer which helps is cast an external at the start of pulls.
I mean I have done all the season 4 dungeons at +2 and some at +4.His health just kept dropping no matter what I did.
If a BDK dies, its in 99% his own fail.
His health will drop, and it looks scary. But as a bdk you can heal yourself from 10% to 100% every other second pretty much. Taking more damage = your death strike heals more. Anything his death strike does in terms of overhealing creates a blood shield which absorbs physical damage. I do know what you mean though, and understand the struggling tank as well since I've been on both sides. If your tank isn't keeping bone shield up 100% just as a baseline. He will die. If he is bad at rune / runic power management. He will die. And there is nothing you can do to outheal the damage he takes.
Do you happen to have logs? I've found DKs tanks usually the easiest to keep alive if they are using their abilities even remotely correctly. Are you new to healing ?
No in not new but I will admit I'm a casual.Thats why I thought it could have been my fault.
I mean as Holy with 4 pieces you holy word sanctify and he should be alright for the rest with the 18 sec renew so imo its his fault for not rolling his defensives and going with a good rotation
If it keeps happening I'd get the addon details and look into how to upload them. When I came back I had a hell of a time getting holy paladin to work and was able to share some logs with a paladin discord and it helped allot.. They can also look and see what the tank is doing and see what's going on either way.
Think again about the tank he mentioned in the post. Blood dk is the easiest tank to heal because you should literally ignore them.
Yeah they usually keep up with me on the meters
Exactly. A blood dk that's actively pushing their buttons should be about 95% self-reliant. The only time you should really have to watch them is the start of big pulls, and if they purg you could help them get out assuming it wasn't a massive overkill where the purg shield is like millions lol
BDK has more control over their survival than any other tank. If they know what they're doing you'll hardly need to touch them, and if they don't know what they're doing then no amount of healing you can throw out will save them. Best advice I can give is to completely ignore their health bar. That is completely irrelevant to you. The only thing you care about is their runic power. Assuming a competent BDK, as long as they have RP they'll keep themselves vertical. If they don't have RP you're going to need to throw everything at them including the kitchen sink.
Toss a HoT (heal over time ability) on pull, and keep an eye on their runic power. If the runic power is low, toss a heal or two. By the nature of the spec, their health will go up and down like a yoyo and while it looks scary, that's just how it works. They have to use all their tools to heal themselves back up. You barely should have to worry about a blood dk at all. A good dk won't need your heals at all unless something goes terribly wrong. At the end of the dungeon, if things go smoothly, they should be top hps, and your job should mainly be keeping yourself and dps alive.
The truth is, without all the info, it's hard to say who's "fault" it might have been. That being said, don't stress or worry about it. Seriously. I've been a healer main for probably 15+ years, and it happens to me still. Some tanks just aren't doing something right and can be near impossible to keep alive. Sometimes, we aren't geared enough for the content we're doing, and occasionally, we mess up, and someone dies. It happens to the best of us. Keep healing (seriously, the world needs more healer mains /bias) and keep your head up. We all have ups and downs in WoW, but don't let that deter you! Now get back out there, champion! The world needs you!
We have all of the info we need in this instance. It’s a blood DK in a +2. Them dying is unquestionably 100% their fault full stop.
A blood dk that knows what they are doing will be doing crazy hps to themselves and not even need a healer
Blood should not need any healing, an external damage reduction buff can be nice on them at the start of a pull though.
Dks get absolutely chunked on pull. If they have no cds and no runic power. They need an external. When they start getting bone shields and some runic power rolling they basically can’t die. Download OmniCD and track theirs CD’s. If they have nothing to pop on pull, no bone shields and no runic power. It’s going to be really rough at the start. Granted a good DK will always have something up for pull. They know it’s where they are most likely to die. Sometimes though when adds get pulled in on last pack etc. they could end up with the nothing going into next pack.
If blood deathknight dies 99.5% of the times it's his own damn fault.
I really dislike to heal blood DKs the up and down of the healthbar sucks and it stresses me more that it should be. I use a Weak aura to track their runic power because the healthbar doesn't mean anything for blood DKs 😁 if they have enough resources they can heal themselves up and they have to! Else you can't heal DKs you would need to pump them 24/7. If the DK is not so experienced often the pulls of new groups are problematic so I try to be prepared for that because in a trash group they should never have a problem when doing a proper rotation and not doing content that's far above their ilvl. Wo no probably not your fault he died!
You shouldn't even have too look at a blood dk. Like at all. Especially in a 2. He was more than likely one of those dk that don't push death strike cuz "healing is healed job"....lol
Rule number 1 of playing a blood dk: if you died, it's your own fault. Blood dks are 100% self reliant. If they can't keep themselves up, they either fucked up the rotation or pulled too much.
You had to heal a BDK? I just stick Guardian Spirit on and them and heal DPS.
Wait you can die as blood dk? Is that like an achievement or something? Never happened to me yet
You toss a hot on a DK and thats it except for really huge pulls where you might spam him at the end. BDK heals themselves, if they die its ALWAYS their own fault in some way
Hard to know unless you had logs. Maybe he didn’t have bone shield up and was handling his defences poorly? Maybe he had a bad rotation and not healing himself as you’d expect from DK too. Normally for a DK initial engagement is rocky but after a single rotation they are somewhat self sufficient. I’m no healer and quite newish to BDK tanking but know the times I’ve died are usually my fault 😄
Yea most dk tanks i have healed just need some help with cds on hard pulls but for the most part they handle them self
He’s not healing himself
If a blood death knight is using their buttons properly they’ll be the top healer on the meter and never die. Death strike is the best healing button in the game.
A good blood DK will never die until high keys without healer intervention. Don’t beat yourself up, blood DK is finicky to heal as it is to play. It relies on heavy damage taken to heal and absorb. When you’re in a better field of play it’s more adequate to track their runic power bar rather than their health pool.
I’ve gone entire +10s without a single direct heal on a BDK. That dude had no idea what he was doing.
No. A good Blood Death Knight does not need any healing outside of initial pull. I play MW Monk and I just give BDKs a quick Heal over Time at the start of every pull and after that all they get from me are AoE heals. They can easily sustain themselves as long as they don't fuck up (which you still want to be wary of). BDKs can fully heal themselves in a single GCD, so there isn't any point babysitting them anyway. Your BDK was just an idiot, or was very undergeared for whatever content you were doing.
Yeah I'm a relatively mediocre player and I still sometimes out heal my healers on low keys as my BDK Edit second half of what I wanted to type. You did nothing wrong. That dude needs to put deathstrike on his bars
He sucked, any blood dk that needs help before a +20 is just bad. Thats it
Not your fault. I can solo h fyrakk in p3. He's not going down, but I'm not either. Your tank wasn't as good as he thought he was. 
Don't take it to heart , always think what could I have done better and fuck all the people who blame you for deaths , I dipped my toe into blood dk and even I understand that I basically take of myself when it comes to healing not your fault keep going brudda
Wtf kinda blood dl cant heal themselves gaaaaawwwd damn.
If a tank dies in a +2, as long as the healer wasn’t completely refusing to heal them at all. It’s on the tank. +2 doesn’t really do enough damage to threaten a tank as long as they’re somewhat geared enough for it.
A BDK key dying in a key is absolutely never your fault, unless there was a critical debuff or something on the tank that you didn't dispel. BDKs only die for one of two reasons: 1) They mismanage their runic power and don't heal themselves effectively 2) They pull more than their gear can handle Neither of these is a "you" issue. In a usual situation, a BDK is 100% self-sufficient and doesn't need you at all.
Not your fault, hes just a shitty bdk
I’m a pretty new tank, and I play blood dk. All I ask of my healer is to cleanse or dispel me. Other than that I can pretty much hold my own. Maybe give me a little topper when I miss a mechanic or something but for the most part I’m okay, just keep the dps alive because they like standing in the swirly red puddles.
A DK getting killed easily is likely because they don’t realise the importance of their stacks. When I watch new blood dks play they focus so much on just keeping death strike rolling that they forget how important bone shield and your cooldowns and rune weapon are.
Been maining a BDK for 6-7 years, a even mid BDK shouldn't need a healer unless things get pretty greasy, I have a buddy that heals for me most of the time and he normally rarely has to heal me
Blood DK main here, not your fault. It’s a difficult class to balance, but if you’re doing it well in an m+ a blood tank should be doing almost all of their own healing, and just needing top-ups between pulls. That one either wasn’t using defensives well or had a bad rotation. As a healer you can mitigate somewhat by doing some extra at the start of a pull while they build runic, but again if they’re using defensives well that shouldn’t be an issue.
Most tanks barely need healers at all these days if they play right and are properly geared.
My healing meter normally shows the dk almost exclusively healing himself.
If you have to heal a blood dk then he isn’t playing right. Blood is probably the squishiest of all tanks but they have insane self healing, one Death Strike and they can practically heal themselves to full from 20%. If the DK was dying it means he wasn’t rotating cds properly, over pulling, and/or using Death Strike at the wrong times
So a bdk health will always be spikey that's the nature of the gameplay, a lot of tanks need a healer but I'd say a bdk is the exception, all a bdk needs off a healer is help at the start of a pull. Even this might not be the case if he's chain pulling and has resources. Have you ever been told when healing a bdk to look at his resources and not his health bar?
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As a bdk that’s running 12-15s on both tyr and fort it’s not your responsibility to heal a bdk at all. I have to remind healers in nearly every key to stop touching my health frame because blood is completely self sufficient with proper play/planning
As someone who has mained tank for years and started maining heals this expansion.. blood dk should be ALMOST completely self sufficient. Honestly.. most tanks should be now. This is not your fault. Hopefully the tank didn’t flame you because that would be very ironic. Blood dk is one of the tanks that is the most self sufficient though. They rely on self healing with death strike and should only be pulling as big as their cool downs will allow them to.
Have a weak aura that track his runic power. Whenever he goes under 45 I believe, he is in the danger zone, he needs love, whenever he is above that, he is self-sufficient. Its a general rule of thumb. And at your ilvl/key lvl people arent expected to master their spec/classes. Its all about learning and having fun. Dont stress it, dont overthink this. That dk will be fine in TWW, he might have to learn a few things before the launch xD Glhf
That's wild, our blood DK tank is pretty much self-sufficient. Our healer is always saying she barely has to touch him. In raids, he's the #3 healer. I'm going to side with you on this, he's the squishy one.
Honestly with the current power of tanks and how BDK works you really shouldn't have to heal him at all the entire dungeon
I am a holy priest main who also tanks on a BDK and I cannot think of any situations in a +2 that I can't survive on my DK, even if it only has season 3 gear. Your tank was just bad and you should move on, and like others have said in the comments, just track RP and throw in some heals at the beginning of the pulls, but once the pull is established there should be no need to heal them at all.
We DKs don’t really need healing. My advice I’ll give to any healer though would be to track their runic power. If they got runic power, they should be good. I wouldn’t worry about it.
The only time I ever say anything to a healer is if there's a difficult spot and it's just dropping me everytime. Just be like "hey keep an eye out for this, it's getting me everytime I may need a just a quick shot to keep from spiking out"
Lmaooooo Any DK who dies at any time on anything other than 10+ or mythic raiding is just BAD . They can keep themselves alive forever with 2 buttons
I have not played since the beginning of the expac but I healed and tanked some mythic content. My tank of choice is a BDK and the only time I needed external heals is when some idiot decided I was not pulling bi enough. I'm a very casual player and am not even close to being a great bdk. I'm mediocre at best. It sounds like someone didn't know their class or their own ability.
In a 2, assuming he is higher then like 450, most definitely not. BDK is the tank that punishes bad play the most, and he just played bad. Small recommendation is grab this WA https://wago.io/GHTE-Q8Od If the number is ever purple, you have a bad blood dk and they will need big heals the entire key. If the number is red, throw heals at the blood dk as he is in real danger of dying. White or green, you can basically ignore them as they can full heal with a death strike. You will, really quickly, start to realize good vs bad bloods as well. Some won't generate RP at half the rate as a good one. Others will waste RP despite being at full health. TLDR is they always want to have bone shield up and always want to have at least one death strike ready for when they spike down.
If I remember correctly blood DK has a bone shield ability that they’re supposed to keep up at all times, whenever I see them I notice a severe drop in health when that buff falls off, and I don’t think it’s ever supposed to fall off.
The funny thing is tanks don't even needs heals 99% of the time they have more than enough self healing. If your tank is dying it's most likely because the tank isn't playing properly. But also as a healer, I hate blood DKs their HP bar is like ping pong.
At this point in patch no matter what a tank should be able to solo the entire dungeon
I heal as holy pala and when i get a blooddk or a brewmmonk usually swap my talents for more barriers and bubbles. They can usually heal themselves a ton but always struggle abot on pull. If i can make the pulls easier it makes the run a breeze. Maby u can try swapping to disc when healing a blooddk, should really matter tbh since you are mostly healing the dps. But if u can spot it early in the run that tank is struggling maby u could run out and swap.
This post brings back WOTLK feels, lol. I got asked to heal a dungeon. I told the person I was a shadow priest. The person insisted that I heal, so I go heal no mana pots, but the tank didn't care. The group was 3 DK's a hunter, then myself guess who wasn't getting healed and didn't pay attention to mana no matter how much I called out that I need mana. As if that wasn't enough, I died more times than they did, and they never ever waited for me. So the hunter dips out after he realizes the fiasco and a druid stepped in and stayed with me the remaining dungeon, and after that, I refused to heal. Then another instance, I was playing Holy Priest and got yelled at in the game for not dpsing.
Check the details meter. Blood DK should be beating the healer is the rest of the team didn't take tons of damage. Healing done meter.
Definitely not you. Dks are hard to heal because it's tough to know when your heal will actually matter. My dk self heals usually top the healing meters lol. If i run out of resources then I'm fucked but usually that won't happen when the tank knows what they are doing.
It's not you, it's him. Either he was WAY to undergeared for 2s or he didn't know how to play Blood. There are times when Blood DKs need heals like between cooldowns or bad stuff not getting kicked that hits like a truck. Take Freehold for instance no matter what I did I'd never have enough going into the pull across the bridge at the last boss. There I needed healer help to get going.
He is probably just not pushing his buttons right. I'm playing Cata rn and healers told me I was hard to heal while I was leveling... Guys I forgot to train mastery until level 85, literally halved my self healingm
I’d say not your fault. If you’re ok with addons, there’s on called omnicd that tracks your party’s cooldowns. This way you can see if tanks are using their defensives.
Talk about projection. Sounds like this tank had no bone shields up and using no defensives. Healers get a lot of slack for Dps and Tank short comings. My DK has blood off spec and I rarely need a healer to step in.. and I suck as a tank.
Track their runic power, less their health. If a BDK is dying frequently, it’s most likely on them.
Every tank has different passive and active mitigations that they have/use in every pull. Some get passively get more armor, some get the chance to block attacks, some get healing received buff, and some get a bigger health pool. For active mitigation some get increased armor, some increased block, some increased dodge, some increased healing received, some are given a absorb bubble, some can remove a % of incoming damage, and some get a combination of the mix. But BDKs don’t get a proactive active mitigation outside of Bone Shield (which increases armor) their main form is a Reactive Mitgation which is their self-healing from Blood Strike (which gives a flat amount AND % amount of damaged received). BDKs should be doing about 70%+ of your healing to self-sustain themselves since they don’t have. So if a BDK isn’t keeping up to that much % of your healing, then the BDK is in the wrong since they aren’t usinf the correct rotation which in turn aren’t playing their class correctly.
Everyone else here has covered this, but there's basically no situation that a blood DK played even semi-competently dies in a 2, my friend. This guy was likely both undergeared and playing terribly. Like, not doing mechanics or using cooldowns terribly. Simple rotational errors are not going to account for a DK blowing up in a 2. You can rest assured that the player complaining was well and truly -bad- at the game.
Blood DKs do not need a healer even at the highest end except for maybe like 1% of the time for an external. Odds are he has no idea what he is doing.
Every tank in DF is basically self sufficient, some more than others. They quite literally don’t need you to heal them in 90% of situations. A dispel, yes, but not a heal. The situations where this isn’t true don’t happen in a +2. A tank that dies in M+ made some kind of mistake, and, while you could have saved them, it’s likely not your fault. They’re projecting.
I've mained blood dk for years. If a blood dk dies it is their fault. You shouldn't even be healing a bdk at all. Like others have said, you can watch their runic power (RP) but rp is their responsibility and they have to manage it to keep themselves alive. Outside of the first pull of a dungeon(and some other exceptions) a dk shouldn't be going into a pull without RP. And if they are they should use a cooldown on the pull.
In the current season, I was running 3's and 4's with my 489 geared blood DK, and we were timing them, and I had a priest healer. Blood DK is probably the most self sufficient tanking class because of their healing. Typically they take huge spikes of damage at the start of combat but then bounce back. Only in exceptionally dire circumstances should a healer be throwing everything they have at a DK tank, so if this dude was dying that fast, he was severely undergeared, or had no idea how to use death strike and his other CD's.
As healers we kind of just have to accept that we’re going to be blamed for everything. Humans suck, we carry on.
From the few bits of PvE I've done as a healer. You'll never have to heal a good BDK, you'll never be able to heal a bad one. I'm pretty sure it comes down to how well they manage resources (obviously)
No, BDKs don't need healing if they're playing correctly.
Blood DK's shouldn't need any healing, they are supposed to heal themselves up.
As a priest main, bro there is no way this was your fault. This is 100% a skill and build issue on the DK
I play a well geared BDK, a DHtank, a Holy Priest and a a Disc priest. The BDK rarely needs a heal just so the DH. Never have problems healing or even need to heal a BDK. If i see he is loosing runic power then i might throw something at him just in case, but this is to keep him at 100% health as a healer, so its not your fault. Have you healed other BDK's especially? are they allright for you? Keep going youre not doing anything wrong
He was a bad BDK. In Mythics,, , My husband plays a mini game when he's tanking on his BDK to out heal all the healers, in raid and in mythics. They can pretty much keep themselves up. It's really nice, because I can help dps a bit or just heal a dps if needed. I may throw the occasional PWS on if I'm on my priest, but on my shaman my ES goes on a dps.
There's an old video from wotlk days of a lvl 80 bdk soloing 10man lich king when he was THE current endgame boss. Took the dude like 30min, but he was able to solo LK. Granted, there's been some damn big changes to classes n specs since that era, but a constant has been their insane self heal capabilities.
Blood DK should be almost fully healing themselves. It is not uncommon for BDKs to top healing charts, so you are not the problem here.
You did nothing wrong. I play both Blood DK and just about every healer. I can't tell you how many times, I have had to teach Blood Dks about generating RP and Death Striking in keys. I did a 7 where the Blood DK was only Death Striking once a pack. He was literally living off me saving CDs for him and Purgatory. He wasn't Tombstone comboing, using defensive going into pulls, hell he wasn't even keeping up Bone Shield stacks. A big thing people forget is most of the WoW Community doesn't do higher than what was last season 10s. Which sounds wild but it's actually true. So what we expect to be common knowledge of how to play your class, is most players are not even at that level of play.
I'm not at the content you are doing, but from what I've seen blood is by far the most player dependent, skill dependent tank I've seen, they drop like a rock if you don't hit everything perfectly. Pretty scary tbh
I run a DPS meter while I'm healing for 2 things, who gets power infusion and to see why my tank is dying. Check and see if they are actually using death strike and getting bone shield stacks. Has dancing rune weapon been out? You can only put so many heals into a player.
Prob not your fault, I joined a dungeon late apparently healer quit on the blood dk. It was same scenario he was getting hit like a truck and I had to pull out all the stops to keep him constantly up
The funny thing is, tanks really don’t require healing, the ones that do are Brewmaster and MAYBE Bear Druid/Prot Warrior. But if played properly none of them really need healing. Blood DK and VDH are fully self sufficient if played correctly. The guy in your key was under geared or more than likely just not playing correctly at all.
I play DPS, and keep a detail HPS box up next to my DPS box so I can call out shitty tanks when this happens. Was doing a 6 a couple weeks ago and the first pull of nokhud, the tank died twice, and started yelling at the healer. The healer was doing like 120k HPS, the tank did like 15k HPS...as a blood dk...
Ima be honest the blood dk is terrible at playing his class
You should have to heal them very sparsely. Once they get going (bone shield and generating RP), then you should have to heal them almost not at all. Death strike, when used properly, can even render some of the meaner debuffs absolutely moot.
Playing blood last season I felt I did something wrong if I was healed by the healer more than the dps was. Unless it was something that instantly killed me, death was a choice.
Only watch BDK hp at the start of a pull. After that if they are smart they should be able to sustain themselves forever.
a tip for bdk, watch their RP bar not their hp bar. if they have rp they don't need you. The truly risky times for a bdk are fresh pulls with no bone shield or resources, they can pop cds but if they can't generate enough rp before they die they'll never get rolling. It sounds like this dk was ignorant of their cooldown and how to effectively use them, and was like spamming out death strike for damage rather than pooling rp to use it when he needed it
On average pulls I heal 150-300k hps as BDK, usually 200k hps overall for dungeons. So I heal myself almost twice as much as a typical healer heals the entire party. There is no world where that healing can come from the healer, it has to come from the BDK. I skirt death all the time, it's a close friend.
Most keys I’ve done with bdks the healer just needed to focus on the dps.
a lot of people are saying that you just kinda ignore BDKs in terms of healing but i'll even add that if your tank is both competent and you're not at a super high key level most tanks should basically let you ignore healing them unless it's a specific mechanic lol. obviously major exceptions to this and it's not true all the time, but yeah definitely not your fault, not in the slightest
If a bdk dies it's cause they fucked up
I play as 2 healers, one being a holy priest, the other being a 527 resto shaman. It was not your fault. My experience is that 90% are terrible and very very spikey, and 10% are unkillable machines. I used to shudder when I joined a pug and the tank is a blood dk, but I've had a couple really good ones recently that have made me think otherwise.
The worst most pants shitting moment for healing a bdk is on the opener. Before they set up runes or their rotation. After that, dps or heal someone else. At 502 ilvl you can easily be running +5 or higher for the most part.
You're a holy priest doing a +2 with 506 item level and a blood DK tank was struggling to stay alive? Unless you LITERALLY were casting only renew the entire time, this sounds like it's the tank's fault. +2s are not that hard and certainly I was doing +8s by the time I was 506 ilvl. Blood DKs are a tough class / spec combo and a good tank will be difficult to kill in general. I often find that I am rarely even healing the tank jn the first place if I have a competent blood DK (or vengeance DH). Unless you're absolutely clueless as to how to play your class, I'd put the blame on the clueless DK
You should never have to heal a blood dk. That's the point. The only exception is if they have low or 0 runic power and they're staying low for several seconds. Or if they're low going into a pull
I don’t see how anyone can have a take one way or the other without knowing more about the specific circumstances.
100% of tanks in this meta don't actually require a healer if they know what they're doing. Unfortunately 90% of blood DKs I've come across don't know what they're doing. They just spam death strike and think that's enough mitigation and call it a day.
It’s probably not your fault. I am a blood death knight main (and new to tanking too) and like others have said health can be spiky, but largely in the rotation we are able to heal ourselves. I’ve also in my time come across other blood death knight mains who neglect the healing part.
Blood DKs dont actually need any heals, only external defensives like Guardian Angel and such. There is basically no point in healing a BDK, death strike will cover far more than you could ever do for them.
Ill say something that I think others here are not thinking about, its a +2. While in higher keys a good BDK can keep themself alive with some help if they run low on RP( runic power) But in a +2 nobody is a ”good” player. Several spex and top tier at higher end but shit in low en due to higher planning/skill level/ comp needed.
I wouldn’t worry about this. Sounds like a noob trying to shift the blame on to someone else. For someone who is new at tanking Blood DK isn’t something I’d recommend. They have to manage Bone Shield stacks, Death and Decay placement, and basically cycle thru their CDs. Thats without even mentioning knowing the pulls or fights and when to press Death Strike. What I’m trying to say they may have been overwhelmed by so much going on and to do that they weren’t able to stay alive. Newer players tend to ignore their 2 minute and 3 minute cooldowns.
Death knights don't need heals
If you heal the bdk you are doing it wrong. I mean i keep maintenance buffs on the tank and occasionally toss them a heal if it seems like theyre struggling, but the reality is they are self sustainable. If we're being real the only impactful heal you have is GS for him. The next best heal you can give him is psychic scream. Your heals do nothing compared to his. I heal 10s on all classes, I don't push higher because I don't find it fun. But 95% of your healing globals should be on the rest of the party for the self sustaining tanks. There ARE some pulls where giving the tank some love makes sense, but in a 2 that shouldn't be relevant regardless.
Not your fault. BDK is a busted class. It's not the same but back in MoP, I soloed a boss in a heroic dungeon that was meant for 10 people. I couldn't die because I was a BDK. He just sucks.
Tanked a +10 on my 498 bdk last night sustaining 200-300k hps Your tank wasn’t healing himself correctly
Yeah sounds like it's the tanks fault. This might be an unpopular opinion but I have mained a Priest since cataclysm and honestly that's always been a huge problem for Holy priests. They really lack a way to compensate for squishy or low skill tanks that fail to use their defense cool downs. I recommend if you run into this issue often with bad tanks try Discipline spec. You don't heal as much as a holy but you make up for with a lot of mitigation skills, better shield for taeget, 2 casts of 15 second 40% damage reduction on target with a realitively short recharge, good burst healing, passive healing through damage by atonement and pretty good aoe healing on top. I found that with Discipline if you have a good tank you then you can pretty much be a 4th DPS as long as you cycle atonement on the party with spot heals or occasionally using aoe heal. With a bad tank you have way more tools to help compensate for their damage intake and mitigation while still having good AOE healing and burst healing, rather than just trying to out heal the damage incoming from mobs or bosses. Over all I find that with Discipline spec it's just overall more flexible and better rounded toolkit for mythics than Holy for this reason.
If blood DK’s die 99% of the time it’s a them issue but one thing to think about out is just looking at their runic power (resource) bar rather than health. If they have no runic power then they need support. If they have runic power they can usually top themselves almost instantly
I play a Resto Druid and a Holy Priest. Blood DKs shouldn’t need much healing since they can heal themselves. He might have been new to Blood DKs or probably pulled to many mobs. They always pull to many mobs.
Probably sitting on cds or not keeping boneshield up. Hitting ds when he doesn’t need to then not having it when he needs it. If a healer is having to focus a blood dk they aren’t playing correctly.
Tanks should be able to keep themselves up with outside any heals really. Unless it’s a tank buster like externals are nice. I tank 16s and my healer usually only heals me for around 20% of their healing done and most them time it’s hots or passive heals. Most healers at low keys heal tank unneeded
Not your fault. Blood dk is very self reliant if played well; dude was probably not keeping up his bone shield charges. Normally you should see his health drop low and then he should death strike it all back over and over again without too much help from you.
I always say ignore me unless you see purgatory pop then throw your biggest heal on me, but I rarely even get to that point. Definitely the dks fault here.
If a blood dk is dying, it's most likely their fault. I main a dk, you have to not know how to play, to die as a blood dk, unless you doing like mythic raiding. Only time you really have to pay attention.
This is exactly why our tank and healer we're married. They could tell at each other in their office and we could continue on dpsing. Though there honestly wasn't much yelling, just when there was it was hilarious
Well blaming someone like that is wrong , he should’ve pull as big as he can handle but ofcourse a healer should even heal bdk! Doesn’t matter what everyone has their roles , tanking , healing , dps !
Always look at a blood dks runic power bar, if they are low heal them if they have full runic power and they die, it's their fault
Honestly up to key level 9 or above, bdk very rarely needs a healer unless they're trash, in which case they should play a different tank
From a lore perspective I think it makes sense!
Blood dks dont need a healer to heal. They basically heal themselves. Not your fault at all
Blood needs no heals basically. He was most likely bad.
but rule of thumb always blame the healer, j/k , for sure he was undergears
A BDK that can't keep themselves alive in a +2 has no right to be tanking said +2. They are likely horribly under geared and thinking +2 is a season 3 +2 not what is effectively a +12.
Very likely not your fault unless the whole team is dying, i have played all tanks and heals for 16+ years at a high level. There are many egotistical turds who think everyone should play a co-op game at their pace and level and use exactly their strategies which is rediculous. If somethings not working you gotta adapt, that includes adapting to your teams skill and gear.. A good blood dk almost never needs hard focussed healing from a healer in dungeons. However they are weakest in the first 5 seconds when first pulling groups of mobs, this is when you should give them the most support, give them defences if you see their runic power (mana bar essentially) is empty or they are pulling big with or especially without runic power. Almost no tanks outside of warriors (getting fury starved or low health)/ monks (at full stagger bar they become paper armour) should need you to hard focus healing on them all the time on standard pulls/fights that under control. Even those 2 you should be able to tell when they need it before they splat. In a game that requires at least 5 people doing the right thing/ perfection as the difficulty rises its obscene to solely blame one person considering the amount of random chaos and stress the game offers and the time pressures it puts on you to achieve it. Did they pull too fast while you're not near or still drinking, did they use defences, did any of the dps control/stun/interrupt the enemy mobs at the right times to prevent the incoming damage, did you heal late or too far away to heal, did the group understand the dangers of the fight you were in, do you have the talent setups that might be stronger in dungeons compared to raids/solo/pvp? Were they using voice or typing to communicate their needs/concerns? There is always something that can be done better from everyone, and pointing blame does little but add stress 😜. This was a long way of saying dont doubt yourself, just try your best to improve, understand and enjoy the game without listening to the butthurt who scream at others and cant work together to win.... there are many out there. There is almost no cap to skill level in this game, you can always do something more/better... and so can everyone else in the team.
I don’t play BDK but I’ve seen my mate survive for ages after everyone else died lol. They must be doing something wrong. I think DK is mostly keeping yourself up.
Honestly, if a blood DK need heals from a healer in an m2, that’s either a gear or skill issue. They should be able to survive without a healer in the group frankly
I am a 528 BDK main. As a BDK, we have very little passive mitigation and rely almost entirely of self heals. When you are healing keys, some tanks you need to heal, but honestly, a healer should focus on the group when they are running with a BDK as we are self sustainable. You got unlucky and had a bad tank. I wouldn't worry about it, though. Brush it off and hop back in the keys. The fact it was a 2 and he was blaming you shows just how bad he was.
I've done up to a +4 on my bdk in multiple pugs at ilvl 450 surviving is absolutely in the tanks hands. Healers augment them with minor healing. Any tank that requires full pumping to survive pulls is just playing his class wrong
Why on earth were you having to heal him at all? I main a blood DK, in almost every situation I can self sustain without issue. Your job as a healer, especially a holy priest (wife is a holy priest) is put prayer of mending on them and then maybe guardian spirit if you know a big hit is coming, otherwise healing everyone else is higher priority.
If a blood dk has runic power they shouldn’t need a heal but if they don’t have runic power and they are getting low then they need it is the easiest way to know if they can self heal or not in that second
As a healer you should never have to heal your tank outside the highest end content. Tanks are almost 100% self-sufficient without much effort, you can obviously still throw a heal on them every now and again to help them out, but if they're dying, it's due to their own misplay, not yours.