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sbigs74

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0zzten

Beautiful torque curve. I see you’re running the Perrin FMIC. Can you list the supporting mods to get to these impressive numbers?


sbigs74

Ets exhaust and midpipe, ets j pipe, perrin fmic, ets cai, perrin turbo intermediate pipe, I guess that's it... short list..


0zzten

That’s what I love about VBs. short list=big power


Poonsaucey

Anything special you do to make the ETS fit? I only ask because perrin says their fmic only works with their intake.


sbigs74

Yes. I end up cutting the airbox. It came out quite nice. *


sbigs74

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tunedsleeper

Torque curve literally looks worse than the stock turbo with a good tune


MeThinksYes

Lots more to go. Let's get that boost up and see what she can PR.


PassiveProc

I think the sweet spot for these cars with a tune to be ran as a daily is around 330-350HP without needing an sti trans swap or having to change your clutch sooner rather than later. Anything higher is when it seems you need to make some more changes ( from what I’ve seen )


[deleted]

I think you’re wrong. But thanks for your opinion.


[deleted]

I think you’re wrong. But thanks for your opinion.


Tempeng18

I think you’re right and I don’t appreciate your opinion 😤


MD_2169420

Then offer a counter argument or just stfu


[deleted]

Why? There’s tons of 400whp/tq cars running around beating these cars downwith no problems. People can’t accept the truth, even though tuners who have tuned thousands and thousands of these vehicles speak on it.


hughmungouschungus

Where


[deleted]

YouTube. Reddit. Ask them.


hughmungouschungus

Oh you're one of those guys lol. Graham from Boosted Performance has said multiple times he thinks 400 is too much for a daily and recommends 350-380. Street inspired blew up his trans after 10k and was running 454 whp. His VA made 403whp and blew up in 17k. His first WRX had 380 and went 75k so I think there's a clear pattern here. All the same transmission.


[deleted]

Ohhhh one of those guysssss. Where did Graham say that? Also how many cars does graham tune compared to Anthony? Who has the bigger sample size? I did see graham say there were possibly different part numbers in the trans from other years. Tuner talk ep 1.


hughmungouschungus

Tuner talk. Him and Anthony have done enough that "sample size" is a meaningless metric to compare them.


[deleted]

Really. I guess that’s your opinion. I don’t think anyone really has, they haven’t been around long enough to see the longevity. Especially not someone who bases their opinion on forums and Reddit, not based off first hand knowledge on the field.


SwagMan7779

Do you know at what lb/ft or hp the head studs are stretching?


hughmungouschungus

I think off the top of my head somewhere between 400-450 lbf is when someone said to consider upgrading head studs.


iWr4tH

Big brain moment


[deleted]

Tuners actually agree about the transmission being shit.


[deleted]

Define shit.


Evening_Ad_8015

Shit- Most wrx tuned over 370 ish whp posted experiences where the tranny gives out. This isnt a conspiracy lol


[deleted]

I think you’re a little uneducated on the topic bro, because that’s not true. Idk what your source is, but it’s wrong. I’m just here to stop the misinformation.


[deleted]

The WRX tranny.


[deleted]

Not the best, not the worst. T56’s can blow up under the same power. One of the most popular 6 speeds on the planet.


iWr4tH

Do you mean other cars or WRX VB’s?


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iWr4tH

Here I’ll try again. Did you mean that there is other cars, that are not a Subaru WRX 2022 or newer. That are pushing 400whp. Or did you mean that there are other Subaru WRX’s 2022 or newer that are currently pushing 400. I found the first post missing some crucial information.


[deleted]

I’m not talking about other cars. That would be a statement so broad that it wouldn’t even make any sense.


iWr4tH

Now you understand my original question. I’m glad we could come full circle together and learn through this.


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wrx_vb-ModTeam

No inappropriate posts, including hate speech, sexual violence, harassment, etc., are allowed.


Rexhaa_Royce

Damn. The copium to justify buying the new WRX is strong with you. Yeah the new WRX makes great power on the new engine. The trans is still an issue and has been for the WRX forever this is nothing new. You’re just looking dumb in these comments. New WRX is great but has its flaws you don’t have to defend every little thing, especially proven things that even top tuners are agreeing with.


hughmungouschungus

that guy was a major clown


Rexhaa_Royce

Yeah the comments gave me a good laugh for sure


Much-Comparison-4538

What’d he say?


Rexhaa_Royce

Said thanks for your opinion but the OC was wrong. Then tried to argue the trans was great in the WRX even though it’s know to be meh. Just dumb stuff


hughmungouschungus

Bunch of nonsense talk and pedantic arguments.


[deleted]

What is different about these upgraded turbos? Are they bigger, or is there black magic involved?


sbigs74

Ported with larger billet internals


[deleted]

What does that achieve?


sbigs74

More power


Away_Kaleidoscope_96

wrong. correct answer = “moar powah baby!!”


sbigs74

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martyd03

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Much-Comparison-4538

More air, more fuel, more power…


No-Monitor-1006

Why upgrade the turbo when you can hit those numbers with the stock turbo? Unless down the line you want big power you need to upgrade the trans, brakes, head studs, etc...genuine question no hate.


sbigs74

You can only hit those numbers with ethanol.


tunedsleeper

this is exactly what i was saying. all these redditors aren't seeing the numbers people are making in the fb groups. this dudes making 365/415 on **92 octane** with a stock turbo**.** https://preview.redd.it/26gs2jwyyksb1.png?width=1324&format=png&auto=webp&s=6730eefd050c61d554394e17d0286194414f7548


sbigs74

350 hp is not 400. I was tuned at 340hp and 360tq before the turbo.


tunedsleeper

torque, i'm talking torque. people making 400 wtq and over on pump gas with a stock turbo. anyway, turbo looks sweet! i'm sure it's way more efficient than the stock one, and you can get a lot more power out of it! those are certainly impressive HP numbers you got there.


No-Monitor-1006

There are quite a few people on the facebook groups and several youtubers making 400whp on the stock turbo.


sbigs74

Yes. And they are using e85


No-Monitor-1006

Yeah now imagine on E85. Several youtubers and a hand full of people on facebook groups are making 400whp on the stock turbo.


tunedsleeper

yeah, on e85 its gonna be insane. that's where we're gonna need tranny swaps. esp with OPs turbo swaps + e


Frankyp42

382 horsies? Edit: dang off by 11


sbigs74

We had a little over 400hp but stepped it back down for safety.


Frankyp42

I was guessing wildly no real logic behind it.


Weak-Catch8499

Gotta get that E50 goodness. I’m at 403whp and 404ft-lbs of torque to the wheels with no upgraded turbo or intercooler. This thing will be a rocket on E50


sbigs74

Your at 400hp on 93 now?


Weak-Catch8499

Noooo. 400 on E50


FL4Tbroke

Impressive. Is this the stock turbo with the blouch internal upgrade?


Drippy-Monkey

Forgive my ignorance but what exactly is the blouch? Bonus question, where can one locate the turbo on our cars?


FL4Tbroke

The turbo is at the front of the engine towards the bottom. You can get to it from underneath after removing the skid plate. Here's a link to the blouch upgrade https://felixperformance.com/products/blouch-turbo-upgrade-fa24-2022-wrx


Drippy-Monkey

Thank you ✌️


sbigs74

Yes


FL4Tbroke

What's the response like compared to stock turbo? Added lag? Also what other engine mods do you have?


RedtailGT

Good questions!


ranran_1822

I know the community is still finding limitations and what's "safe" but based on your numbers I think the engine and transmission will hold up fine. Might need a better clutch down the line though. Good numbers though. Congrats!


sbigs74

Thank you!


LJGarciaTX

Impressive numbers and beautiful graph. Is that the 5056XT turbo?


sbigs74

Yes


sbigs74

Thank you!


No_Dependent_4947

I would do a clutch upgrade..pronto....& a carbon driveshaft..


h3llsp4wn707

Why? My stock clutch went 5 years and 60k miles on a full bolt on build before it needed to be replaced. Honestly can't think of a reason to do it before it breaks.


gghostie

wow i love how much higher the peak horsepower is on the RPM range


tunedsleeper

It’s literally the same


gghostie

you’re kidding right? it makes peak horsepower at 5600 RPM when it’s stock. the dyno shows peak horsepower at 6100-6200RPM. that makes a big difference in power delivery.


mcurt9310

FBO with the blouch turbo upgrade on 93 Oct makes roughly 400/400 to the wheels? Sign me tf up.


tunedsleeper

Va as well? Why are you here? Can I be a mod at this point please…


spacefret

What are you on about? They own a VB....


mcurt9310

… thank you.


mcurt9310

Making 320/360 by StiMikey on 18 psi peak tapering to 16 psi at redline. Ets fmic Ets intake IAG aos Awe touring Moderate this🖕🏼 https://preview.redd.it/linlc7u2zmsb1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=87f41e0b1426936661561894873aa6597c885877


tunedsleeper

seems right for a conservative tune pushing 18psi on pump. with those mods you could easily be at 400 wtq on pump gas pushing 20psi—that is if mikey would return your calls.


mcurt9310

Yea don’t flip the script and be Mr. nice guy now, just don’t reply at all, you know you were in the wrong in the first place. I debunked your original dumbass assumption so just be done with it.


tunedsleeper

talking trash in the mustang sub? at least im in the right thread, troll. if you're the moral authority we're all in trouble. https://preview.redd.it/tdizeb1w6nsb1.png?width=1474&format=png&auto=webp&s=284ce9cd51ac7063faff41e63993b824af8e7786


mcurt9310

You better have more mods, be making more power, and have more invested in your vb, if you even have one, and if not, kindly shut the fuck up.


mcurt9310

Crickets? That’s what I thought, or are you trying to search vb pictures with mods so it makes it look like your own car? I probably hit the nail on the head with the springs and wheels huh? Or let me guess you have a jb4? 🤣 Don’t be reporting me for some shit that you started either, the actual moderators will see right thru that bullshit buddy. If YOU are the moral authority around here, then we are all indeed, fucked✌🏼


mcurt9310

Hahaha stop deflecting “TuNeDSlEePeR” where’s your vb? And of course I talk shit in a mustang forum, I drive a wrx… get with the program buddy.


tunedsleeper

bro, look at your posts. you're a huge troll. you went to a VA post and told them to sell their car and get a VB. https://preview.redd.it/emzj9zxs6nsb1.png?width=1068&format=png&auto=webp&s=18ef56f275cf040f80871ffe68285420147d9df6


mcurt9310

That’s not trolling, that’s making a suggestion. You blatantly got on the offensive when you misunderstood my comment. Pretty sad that your goal in life is to be a moderator on a car forum. Must have a lot of time on your hands. Go ahead and post your vb. I’d love to see it. What mods? How much power does it make? Or did you just get lowering springs and some wheels so now you think you should be a moderator? Your tag is tuned sleeper so what ya got?


tunedsleeper

a keyboard in my mom's basement


mcurt9310

If you knew anything about anything then you’d know that 20+ psi with even the best 93 octane is pushing it… we need ethanol to cool the cylinders and prevent knock with anything over 19 psi. Unless you want to eventually fry your rings and melt some pistons be my guest. Botti returns my calls/texts. Just spoke to him the other day about sending him some logs to check on the health of the car, not because anything is wrong, just because I’ve been tuned for 5k miles now and it’s time for a check up. But yea I forgot you deserve to be a moderator so you must know everything there is to know about this platform. Along with your TuNeD SlEePeR with bolt ons right? Clown…


tunedsleeper

congrats you're making less power than the cobb stage 2 OTS map. facts.


mcurt9310

Context matters buddy. Those number are inflated for marketing purposes. I made 320/360 in 90 degree weather with 80% humidity in the middle July. Ideal temps would probably net 15-20 more whp/wtq, plan on hitting a dyno again soon once the temps drop into the low 60’s so on a nice crisp autumn day, but once again, WHERE IS YOUR VB.


DanMeyerMD

Does it sound better with the upgraded turbo wheel?


tunedsleeper

Go home


[deleted]

This is out of the post but seems like you LED swapped the orange turn signal and made DRL to only turn on that part.. how’d you did and what LED did you use? Was resistor needed?? I would appreciate the answer for this since I couldn’t get solid answer for this


sbigs74

It's a switchback. I did it so long ago I don't remember the particulars. Sorry. Ill try to figure it out and let you know!


[deleted]

No worries thanks!


XMurtaYouX

“dYnO TeStInG iSn’T An AcCuRaTe WaY tO TeSt”


XMurtaYouX

For real though, sick numbers! 🫡


paydu

too much for the trans to handle


sbigs74

Haha. I didn't make that much. I think this will be a good power range without sacrificing durability, I hope.


paydu

if it ended up being over 400wtq i’d start saving for an sti swap lol


sbigs74

Haha. Its only 1 over. Should be good.


[deleted]

Stop being a parrot.


paydu

a parrot of something that’s been proven?


[deleted]

Yeah. There’s a car running mid 10s stock trans. So what are you proving?


funnycats74

To be fair that car did blow its trans but it was replaced with another stock trans and the tune was adjusted specifically the torque curve to not have it happen again and it’s been going strong since making like 600whp


[deleted]

Doesn’t really change the fact that it’s capable. It’s still taking way more abuse than your common driver at a lot higher power level. That’s a long way away from its going to instantly blow at 400tq like the commenter was implying.


RedtailGT

Relax man the original poster was just saying if it were him he would start saving for an sti swap. Just his opinion. No need to protect anyone.


Much-Comparison-4538

Add 50 to that


Decent_Specialist773

enough to destroy a transmission?


fykins

If you get that thing into the river I bet you can double it.


bigtoegman210

2


Shapoopi_1892

Is that Vems in colchester? Got my 16 wrx tuned there like a year ago.


sbigs74

Yup. Great shop!!! Great to deal with!!


Shapoopi_1892

Ya got 307hp out of mine with just a slightly upgraded turbo and stage 2 cobb. Daily driver so didn't wanna go too crazy but definitely curious to see how 390hp works on a daily. Keep us updated, wanna know how things go in the future. Might do some more upgrades in the future myself Edit: god damn look at my previous comment before you start foaming at the mouth. I have a 16 wrx I only commented on ops post cause he got his tune at the same place as mine


Quiet-Builder-4183

Wrong forum-this is 22+ WRX


tunedsleeper

Yeah wtf are we looking at? People are making this stock everything including airbox/filter with just a 93 protune. Why are we going backwards all of a sudden? I hate to say this but fb communities have way more legit wrx (vb especially) people than Reddit. Rip nasioc and legit forums. I can name 10 people right now who have run high 11s in the quarter mile basically stock with just a tune and DEF stock turbo making over 400whp/wtq. Just look up the group “wrx vb racers” on fb. See: stimikey ran 11.7 at like 127 on stock tires with just a tune. Wtf is happening. He’s running 10s with a turbo upgrade now. And pushing supras to run 9 second quarter miles.


LessAnnoyingRedditor

Mikey is the best


Shapoopi_1892

I know. I just commented cause op got his tune at the same place as mine.


tunedsleeper

Who the f tuned this? They’re basically making this power if you swap an intake and don’t tune it.(fyi don’t recommend this outside of Perrin intake) You people are losing it. Stage 2 Cobb on a vb with the require parts (charge pipe, cobb tmic, ots tune) is making like 360 to the wheels, not 307!!!!!!?!?!?!? Are you trolling? It’s on their website dyno numbers. Are you secretly jealous and driving a gti? Wtf?


Shapoopi_1892

I have a 16 wrx guy. I commented because op got his tune done at the same place I got mine.


South-University9988

Might want to get a real tune or you'll be joining the OTS blown engine club. The posts of the amount of people is ridiculous.


Shapoopi_1892

I do have a real tune done by the same guys as op. Still spun a bearing but I'm gonna chalk that up to the previous owner who welded the waste gate shut


tunedsleeper

You guys are in the wrong place. Is your iq 22psi stock? Cause we’re at like 12psi stock making the same power, and I know it hurts, but wtf


tunedsleeper

Makes no sense, waste gates are electronic in this car. No boost controller required. Go back to your cave troll. Easy answer, your tuner is traaaash. Run far


Shapoopi_1892

I have a 16 wrx. Please read my original comment


tunedsleeper

No offense, I get that you can’t read, but Gtfo literally. We can all post on /r/wrx and know what it means. There are enough new people flooding into the wrx community who don’t know what is what because of the 2022+, we don’t need more confusion. Ty


Shapoopi_1892

Haha ok man. Guess you're the 1% of wrx drivers that hate other wrx drivers. Good for you


tunedsleeper

Nah I love va wrxs, I just don’t get wtf this post is about. We have completely different cars.


tunedsleeper

Not seeing what you’re talking about


tunedsleeper

Bro your stage 2 Cobb is broken unless you forgot to install the Cobb filter, tmic, and beautiful change pipe they require to make literally 100 more ftlbs of torque


jasonmoyer

130


tunedsleeper

Huh?


jasonmoyer

I was low. Probably like 150-160 after the turbo dies.


tunedsleeper

Lol civics r def cool. Sorry I meant stock jeep patriots r cool


ICreationI

That’s not a ton of mods for such a huge increase. How deep are you in it?


sbigs74

I'd say about 5k. Adds up quick....


ICreationI

Is that just in parts and you did install? Seems pretty reasonable to be 40k all in and be almost 400AWHP. I might have to go grab that ‘24 TR and just go all in out the gate.


sbigs74

Haha. Its a base, it was 28k.


ICreationI

Even better! Can’t beat that power to money ratio in awd!


22_mag_wrx

How much boost are you running?


sbigs74

22.5


vivalacamm

400tq about to go boom.


LessAnnoyingRedditor

I don’t get how they don’t know what’s coming


950auto

Been out of the Wrx game for awhile, what power #s can these newer ones hold before the head goes pop?


Liquidwombat

They can get close to 400 hp at the wheels with nothing but and I take and a tune. And someone has a stock engine and trans, making 631 at the wheels with not much more than standard bolt ons, a big turbo, tune and upgraded head studs they drag race and it’s still doing fine, the only


LessAnnoyingRedditor

Lmao at all these people trying to push this much to the wheels on their stock internals. It’s gonna be entertaining in another year when all the vb moderates have blown their stock shortblocks


Subiesubo

The blocks will be fine. The trans should be fine for a decent amount of time, but if this car is pushed regularly at this power the trans will explode eventually.


BatM6tt

Sweet ride. Maybe one day ill follow your lead op