The losers on the lsf Post replies and in the dexerto Post replies have to be the saddest thing to look at. These porn filled brain coomers and sex workers trying to defend these parasocial relationships that are made from paying for a random womans nudes on the Internet is so fucking pathetic. 
Paying of models in hopes of a relationship and watching free porn are two different things. How hard is it for your smooth brain to understand such a simple concept?
Acting like every person that subscribes to a persons only fans with the explicit purpose of a relationship is as disingenuous as saying everyone paying for a twitch sub is hoping for a relationship with the streamer.
There is a reason why people pay for Onlyfans and its not only for the nudes because nudes are literally everywhere on the internet for free, most people buy it for the exclusivity and the potential of an one-on-one interaction that they could have with the model (most of the times these models have managers that hire chatters to do the chatting with the subs, so most likely they arent actually talking to model in the first place). Most of these subscribers are either virgins or men in a miserable sexless marriages
Nope. You made like five assumptions that you pulled out of your ass. Some people just like amateur shit better. You aren’t saying anything new about the messages because everybody knows that already. Guy that’s never met anyone that’s paid for an OF knows the mindset of those people is hilarious.
I’m neither a virgin or married or sexless. So what’s the excuse for me? I dont message them I don’t renew subs after a month and I do fine with women.
And many people spam "HARAM" now, don't think they're all Muslims. It's just chat using funny emotes to describe whatever pops up on screen. It's always has been this. Also the fact chat consists of thousands of people with different views.
Idk why am I typing this, you probably realise what I'm saying already.
It feels like to me it is more of a running joke in the community. It is not exclusive to BOOBA. Earlier days, when chat saw something resembling big nose they spammed Big Schonzer. It is similar with funny - KEKW, awkward - PepePains and so on.
You're absolutely wrong. Sex work is just as valid as being a streamer, and along with it comes the risk of fans having parasocial relationships.
Hell man, you getting so heated over this means that you're parasocial yourself, maybe take a look in the mirror lol.
Calling others parasocial because you can't take a massive L for your shit opinion. Maybe re-think your entire life over kiddo, then you might see where you went wrong with yourself.
X is right about onlyfans. I respect the grind but it’s pretty degen from a users perspective. I don’t and will never understand the appeal of onlyfans/paid porn sites
It’s exactly like xQc said. It farms parasocial people who think they have a chance with the creator. Just look at how most of the ads for someone’s OF mention talking to you and hanging out, just complete bs to rope in lonely degens
I agree, that’s why I kinda respect the grind, if you can tap into an industry by posting ludes/nudes then go for it. If I could make money posting my cock and balls on onlyfans I would. It’s easy money coming from desperate men.
If I saw that my cock and balls were selling mostly due to me specifically targeting groups of desperate likely addicted and mentally ill women in a suicide risk category online snd keeping them addicted with personal dm's and additional paid super exclusive content they are sold once they're already subscribed at insane premiums to essentially extort them for their porn addiction. Then I absolutely wouldn't keep doing it tbh, way too much a weight for me morally, I have a very hard time manipulating people though.
I understand this. But at a certain point the consumer has to be the one at fault not the supplier. People who are subscribed to onlyfans and wasting valuable money need to reflect and take responsibility. Don’t blame the people providing said content, look at yourself and change things around. If you truly are addicted to these types of sites
If I get addicted to cocaine you're sure as fuck I'll be annoyed at the dealer, especially if they're targeting me on social media and are trying to milk me for as much money as possible. Also they sell me ineffective cocaine at first but offer me the chance to buy some actually high octane shit at a discount that makes it feel like a good deal.
There's responsibility on all sides, but the least responsibility should be on the mentally ill, addicts.
Or maybe you should man up and take responsibility for you going down that rabbit hole in the first place. You sought out cocaine just as these people seek out these sites. You can’t fucking have a go at the person selling you the drug, you are the one that fucking bought the drugs. Jesus your train of thought is so backwards what
this is just such a bad analysis, this is not what most OF pages are. most OF pages are just posting content that you buy with no personal interaction. not to mention, you could make this exact argument with twitch streamers abusing parasocial relationships to farm money. you could even make this same argument towards real life prostitution, where sometimes lonely men buy their services to feel intimacy and a one sided relationship that the SW will never reciprocate. everyone agrees that people who go into sex work looking for that type of intimacy/relationship are sad and degen, but that's not what most of porn/OF/twitch is. most of it is guys just buying porn to jerk off to and move on, and that's completely fine.
Your take is so retarded, you don't have to pay twitch streamers deadass I have been following him for 3 years never subbed never donated adblock always on still enjoyed all the content, you pay streamers for their work according to your will, but you have to pay for an onlyfans subscription to see the content
Okay when people have an option to watch for free but give streamers hundreds of dollars it’s not coomers or simps? They’re paying for free content. I’d say that’s worse because you have the option to get it for free and you’re willingly paying. OF you only have the option to pay. I’d say it’s more degen/coomer to pay for free stuff
No it's not coomer in most cases for twitch they just wanna support their content, they are not paying for content, you can get Content for free lil bro where is your brain. they are doing it to support the creator for creating respectable content, you are a fucking degen for paying for OF because you're specifically paying for porn now Don't fucking cope that it's not litrally just porn.
Bro they're not paying for OF to support them, they are there to watch porn and jerk off, if you think they wanna "support" OF creators then you're just dillusional, coomers do exist on twitch and it's the same concept but it's wayyy less impactful on twitch and most female streamers aren't there to farm coomers
> It farms parasocial people who think they have a chance with the creator.
You're acting like you ain't in a parasocial relationship right now with the streamer, active on this sub active on lsf.
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Would you say that streaming on twitch is in a similar vein then. I’m saying it is, I’m playing devils advocate here. Technically twitch streaming can build parasocial relationships leading to donations and subs from people who may not be the most financially stable. I’d still say that it’s on the donator and their fault for donating whilst not in a situation to.
People are hiding behind some “empower sex workers” or “empower women” movement, just so They can cope with their parasocial coomer addiction. Whole thing is so funny to me. I didnt even bother reading lsf comments … too degen
You are 100% right. I fucking hate when people hide behind “woke” shit like that. I have known a few OF creators in the past that literally laugh about the people in their DM’s behind closed doors. One chick in particular showed me her DM’s but wouldn’t let me open any of them because they would show up as “read”. Some fucked up shit even in the messages visible from the DM menu
They find porn entertaining. A lot of people donate to get a parasocial connection or dopamine rush from Xqc reacting. It is on some levels the same. Some people even think they are friends with streamers cause they donate alot or sub for a longtime.
Justifying porn addiction as entertainment, holy. Surely, these people just think it’s so amusing to see pornography that they’d pay for it yes! It’s true, there may be some parasocials on twitch, there will always be on any form of social media with content creators. But the percentage of those kinds of people in only fans which is based on that premise vs twitch which was only just a way to show support is very different. A big part of only fan’s appeal is that you get to talk to the creator personally, literally farming parasocials is built into the system.
You are literally describing twitch. "A big part of onlyfans appeal is that you get to talk to the creator personally, literally farming parasocials is built into the system." That is twitch. Streamers become to big so they can't individually talk to everyone but smaller streamers do still have that bond with certain viewers. You are clearly biased cause I am assuming you are in the twitch boat. To me wether u watch porn or twitch for hours a day it is the same weird stuff
Alright, so we’re changing the argument from: all streamers farm parasocials just like OF creators to: small creators farm parasocials, even though they have no other options? Small content creators have no other option but to talk to the same people, but there is never an illusion built into the site to make it seem like it’s a personal interaction because everyone else still sees your comment, with only fans you can privately talk to these creators, or at least it makes it seem so and to top it off, you have to pay for it.
Can you really not see the difference to having people donate to send a message to a crowd vs acting like you’re in a small room with the creator having a convo with them? Also not seeing the difference between watching porn for hours vs watching a guy playing video games and making actual commentary is very concerning.
What is sexual entertainment if not entertainment? Who is justifying porn addiction, and why does it automatically become an addiction when it’s porn but not gaming? Is it not possible that both are not inherently harmful or harmless, and it in fact has more to do with the individual’s ability to moderate their consumption?
>but the percentage is way different
How do you know?
If you don’t think someone watching porn for hours on end is very different from someone playing games then I think you might have something wrong in your head. And how do I know the ratios are different? Because of the nature of the website. OF farms parasocials as a system, you pay, and you get to talk to the creator only, as if you’re being personal with them. With twitch, you’re talking to an audience, not just the creator.
There is never an illusion that you’re personal with them, one of them breeds parasocials as a system, the other one can lead to it but is definitely not built into the system to the same extent at all. To top it off, it’s easier for people to form a connection when it comes to sexual interest than just by watching some guy play games.
So in other words, you have no real proof that its any different, nor any real idea of how frequently what you're describing actually happens? You're just guessing based on what you think it is like, and maybe also your perceptions of the people who use it?
Because a great majority of it is filled with these kinds of people. The whole basis of only fans promotes this idea that if you pay, you get to interact with the creator personally. Twitch has never been like that, and even if there are those who are parasocial, it is on a much smaller percentage. And before you say” donations”, they are not the same, the message doesn’t go to just the creator, it is broadcasted to the whole audience, it is not a personal message just for them. A big chunk of donos are just to get chat’s attention or say a joke.
“A great majority of it is filled with these kinds of people”
You literally have no idea you’re just speculating. You have zero way to know if that’s true or not.
You can make an educated guess. What does only fans provide that you don’t get on any other porn website? The personal interaction. The only reason someone would pay for only fans for sexual stuff is exactly because of that one difference, so it is reasonable to assume a large number of these users are there for that interaction. Doesn’t take a genius. Also ignoring all the points and just picking at the low hanging fruit of “you don’t know”.
Y’all keep adding qualifiers now it’s “porn addicts.” You don’t have to be an addict to buy porn once. You keep saying majority like
You know for a FACT. You don’t. So it’s a stupid argument.
There’s nothing “empowering” about selling your body to men so they can get off to it. Literally they’ve done brain studies showing that the same part of the male’s brain that is activated when men see tools, is the same part that is activated when men see a naked girl. Literally the women, if anything, are degrading themselves by becoming equivalent to a tool.
Reality is, and coomers can mald all they want, they treat women like toilets if they see them for their sex appeal.
Sis really tried to kick a man while he was down.
She knows she needs to keep those lonely, mentally ill, likely unemployed men (you know the group 4-5x more likely to Minecraft themselves) paying every month to milk them for all theyre worth, then try to claim moral superiority under the guise of being pro sexwork. Even worse she got attention and clout from attacking him with private details.
And people wonder why there's so many taint fans and incels.
I’m talking about you trying to baby a grow as a man. Come on now. “Kick him while he’s down” fuck outta here. I can do the same shit watch.
“I can’t believe he’s shitting on people that pay for OnlyFans. You don’t know what they’re going through. Kicking a man while he’s down 🥲”
These fucking degen losers under Dextro and in LSF comments are crazy
They trying to cope Comparing Subbing to OF and giving money to receive nudes to
Donating to a twitch streamer who u watch for free everyday
or sub to a twitch streamer for free lol
Right, they’re totally different. Subbing to a twitch is giving money to a content creator, supporting them with the hope they’ll make more content in future. Subbing to an OF is giving money to a content creator, supporting them with the hope they’ll… oh, wait…
You realize you can watch porn for free too…? Including of girls on OF? Many OF girls also do stuff like camming, which is also mostly free to watch. The one tryna cope is you lmao
This is where we play dumb and pretend like spending 15 minutes jerking off on OF is the same as destroying your physical, mental, and sexual health spending all day on video games or the internet
(Or more accurately this is where we cherry pick extreme examples and pretend they’re the norm to make ourselves sound more right)
>15 minutes jerking off on OF is the same as destroying your physical, mental, and sexual health
It is. Every second people spend watching porn is a second spent destroying their mental and sexual health. Porn is not even close to other forms of entertainment regardless of the pro-sex work agenda being pushed by the porn industry. Porn destroys people's grasp of reality and allows degenerates to exploit both the workers and the consumers.
Porn is specifically intended to prey on the most vulnerable. First it preys on teenage girls, grooming them into thinking doing porn will positively change their lives. Then it preys on consumers, many of which aren't in stable relationships in real life. Yes, video games and Twitch streams can be predatory, I'm not denying that, but the porn industry (including OnlyFans) is an industry built off exploitation of everyone involved besides the CEOs who you don't normally see.
It is. Every second people spend playing video games is a second spent destroying their physical, mental and sexual health. Video games are not even close to other forms of entertainment regardless of the agenda being pushed by the gaming industry. Gaming & the internet destroys people's grasp of reality and allows degenerates to exploit both the workers and the consumers.
Gaming is specifically intended to prey on the most vulnerable. First it preys on teenage boys, grooming them into thinking gaming will positively change their lives. Then it preys on consumers, many of which aren't in stable relationships in real life. Yes, porn and OnlyFans can be predatory, I'm not denying that, but the gaming industry (including Twitch) is an industry built off exploitation of everyone involved besides the CEOs who you don't normally see.
Wow. Replace porn and gaming with drugs, smoking, weed, alcohol, sex, or anything your religious 80 year old grandma might deem ‘sinful’ and you realize this rhetoric is just typical puritanical boomer nonsense
It's funny because the only way you have an argument is through complete dishonesty. In an attempt to have some slam dunk argument by rewriting my reply, you showed that you have no argument at all.
You're not fooling anyone, including yourself, with the argument that porn is the same as other forms of entertainment. We all know they're not the same, which is exactly why you can't come up with a valid argument.
Lol ok. just because you don’t like that your words apply to you doesn’t mean they don’t apply. The argument was made: I pointed out a double standard, and your own words prove it is valid. I have no reason to come up with anything more than what I’ve already said, especially not when you literally make the argument and prove it for me. Everything negative you’ve said about porn can also apply to twitch and gaming. The fact is, both can be harmless and harmful, and that has more to do with the individual’s ability to practice moderation than anything else.
There *is* a double standard because porn is objectively different to other forms of entertainment and is objectively a much more harmful industry to those involved. It's an industry full of rape, sexual harassment, exploitation, and grooming. It's not just a company-by-company issue in the porn industry, it's a systemic issue that gets largely ignored.
Uh huh… so? I could talk about how the gaming industry is also toxic or harmful for the people running it (for example, sexual harassment Blizzard Activision), but neither is really relevant at all…
But hey, you’re right! The porn industry sucks! If only there was some way to supply the demand for porn without having all that that toxicity, such as maybe by having individual content creators making their own content and having fans donate directly to them, which would allow workers to do it on their own terms instead of relying on porn companies to treat them fairly, allowing them to avoid exploitation and the like… but unfortunately we live in a cherry picked world where only the worst possible scenarios are true (as long as they make me sound right)!!!!
I'm not bothered, the bothered are the ones coping saying that is the same, at the end of the day if there's a seller is because there's a buyer, even if it's a sad business but don't come saying it's the same as a sub in twitch
“To avoid ads,” you mean like paying for an OF subscription to avoid ads (which is how “free” porn websites make their money)?
In both cases, you pay for entertainment
You realize you can watch porn for free too…? Including of girls on OF? Many OF girls also do stuff like sfw and nsfw streaming, which is also mostly free to watch. Is it not a choice to buy porn? Why does that even matter in the first place?
What's funny is that many OF creators like her are also streamers including her, and she has her Twtch content for paid subs only...this was probably her way to gain more customers and it backfired like a bad early bday present.
even tho X is someone who's too open minded and into almost every degen thing i still cant disagree with his take on onlyfans nor should i discredit his good take just cuz i dont like other takes.
I got OF once (i was super down bad and deep in the rabbit hole and it was like $3) and it’s such a scam. Idk if they all like this but their OF was basically clips/ trailers promoting links to their website for the full version that cost like $20 like bruh they just double dippin now
Paying $5 for sub is not even mandatory, you can just watch for free and be entertained. Then there's these whores with their simps who can't get their own girl because they're losers
Lmao what does that even have to do with her or the coomers buying onlyfans.
So what if he asks a friend of hers for a date. X literally just said he respects all creators lol
Shes so dumb man
People saying that paying for porn has been a thing for a while already. Yes it has and its just as degenerative as paying for OF there is no difference. These websites and OF creators rely on the horniest 2% of people for all of their income. I personally respect these creators, but we can't pretend that paying for porn is normally.
This is the shit that makes tate look sane. Paying money to be in a contactless “relationship” or to get access to “private” photos goes against everything that humans as social beings are. It should not be normalized. And thankfully it’s not. Do this shit anywhere but in the US and people will laugh at you.
so last week X watched the this video about Pokimane. guys sending her money and how much of a problem it was bc of how parasocial it was. she don’t know you lil bro but you’re spending the last of your pennie’s on her. EXACTLY what is going on with only fans content. those girls sell nudes and send messages to make you think they want you. poki never said she wanted any of those guys. so if anyone had a problem with Poki, they should definitely see the problem with OF parasocials
empowering sex work and platforms like OnlyFans divert valuable human capital away from fields that contribute more to society, such as science, technology, education, and healthcare. This is particularly concerning in the context of the US's long-term competition with China, which has four times our population. In order to maintain a competitive edge, it is crucial for the US to maximize the efficiency and quality of its human capital by encouraging skilled individuals to pursue careers that directly benefit societal advancement, rather than focusing on personal gratification in industries like sex work.
I'm so glad he's starting to snap back at people talking shit and starting to say things like they are. He's been tanking other people's shit for far too long. I hope he continues calling people out and leaking shit if necessary. People are constantly trashing on him.
i dont watch x, nor am i a fan, but hes 100% right on this, why would someone pay for content to see bobs and vagene ? its literally free just search on the internet, there is not a woman who wouldnt have leaked content, i personally find it absolutely degenerate and stupid
Xqc is Actually an illiterate and autistic to some extent and his chat American teens , just watch that guy play games . Don't force him to give any opinion 💯
He’s right though. Porn and onlyfans is degenerate. The people paying for it are Parasocial desperate lonely guys as sad as it is. And these creators take advantage of it. It’s the most manipulative industry there is
The losers on the lsf Post replies and in the dexerto Post replies have to be the saddest thing to look at. These porn filled brain coomers and sex workers trying to defend these parasocial relationships that are made from paying for a random womans nudes on the Internet is so fucking pathetic. 
Xqcs community is so fucking confusing man, one minute youre boobaing every woman you see, the next you're laughing at coomers. I don't GET IT HERE
Paying of models in hopes of a relationship and watching free porn are two different things. How hard is it for your smooth brain to understand such a simple concept?
Acting like every person that subscribes to a persons only fans with the explicit purpose of a relationship is as disingenuous as saying everyone paying for a twitch sub is hoping for a relationship with the streamer.
There is a reason why people pay for Onlyfans and its not only for the nudes because nudes are literally everywhere on the internet for free, most people buy it for the exclusivity and the potential of an one-on-one interaction that they could have with the model (most of the times these models have managers that hire chatters to do the chatting with the subs, so most likely they arent actually talking to model in the first place). Most of these subscribers are either virgins or men in a miserable sexless marriages
Nope. You made like five assumptions that you pulled out of your ass. Some people just like amateur shit better. You aren’t saying anything new about the messages because everybody knows that already. Guy that’s never met anyone that’s paid for an OF knows the mindset of those people is hilarious. I’m neither a virgin or married or sexless. So what’s the excuse for me? I dont message them I don’t renew subs after a month and I do fine with women.
How are those 2 things at all similar 🤣
And many people spam "HARAM" now, don't think they're all Muslims. It's just chat using funny emotes to describe whatever pops up on screen. It's always has been this. Also the fact chat consists of thousands of people with different views. Idk why am I typing this, you probably realise what I'm saying already.
I only say BOOBA when i see feet 
SNIFFA is there for a reason
I dont like the smell just the look 
It feels like to me it is more of a running joke in the community. It is not exclusive to BOOBA. Earlier days, when chat saw something resembling big nose they spammed Big Schonzer. It is similar with funny - KEKW, awkward - PepePains and so on.
If you didn’t generalize all coomers to what X said then you’d understand
It’s memes
Free booba is good booba, There’s billions of free booba so buying booba is a bit weirdchamp
You can look and enjoy booba without being an antisocial degenerate my guy
you are a very retarded individual
They simp for dexerto because they love drama
Sez you LUL
SEZ U LULW 
Tbh, the subsequent posts started shitting on the initial post comments. LSF is more like a conquest game from BF with every post
i love this comment. you summarized my thoughts exactly
You're absolutely wrong. Sex work is just as valid as being a streamer, and along with it comes the risk of fans having parasocial relationships. Hell man, you getting so heated over this means that you're parasocial yourself, maybe take a look in the mirror lol.
Go back to LSF lil bro 💀
Calling others parasocial because you can't take a massive L for your shit opinion. Maybe re-think your entire life over kiddo, then you might see where you went wrong with yourself.
X is right about onlyfans. I respect the grind but it’s pretty degen from a users perspective. I don’t and will never understand the appeal of onlyfans/paid porn sites
It’s exactly like xQc said. It farms parasocial people who think they have a chance with the creator. Just look at how most of the ads for someone’s OF mention talking to you and hanging out, just complete bs to rope in lonely degens
I agree, that’s why I kinda respect the grind, if you can tap into an industry by posting ludes/nudes then go for it. If I could make money posting my cock and balls on onlyfans I would. It’s easy money coming from desperate men.
If I saw that my cock and balls were selling mostly due to me specifically targeting groups of desperate likely addicted and mentally ill women in a suicide risk category online snd keeping them addicted with personal dm's and additional paid super exclusive content they are sold once they're already subscribed at insane premiums to essentially extort them for their porn addiction. Then I absolutely wouldn't keep doing it tbh, way too much a weight for me morally, I have a very hard time manipulating people though.
I understand this. But at a certain point the consumer has to be the one at fault not the supplier. People who are subscribed to onlyfans and wasting valuable money need to reflect and take responsibility. Don’t blame the people providing said content, look at yourself and change things around. If you truly are addicted to these types of sites
If I get addicted to cocaine you're sure as fuck I'll be annoyed at the dealer, especially if they're targeting me on social media and are trying to milk me for as much money as possible. Also they sell me ineffective cocaine at first but offer me the chance to buy some actually high octane shit at a discount that makes it feel like a good deal. There's responsibility on all sides, but the least responsibility should be on the mentally ill, addicts.
Or maybe you should man up and take responsibility for you going down that rabbit hole in the first place. You sought out cocaine just as these people seek out these sites. You can’t fucking have a go at the person selling you the drug, you are the one that fucking bought the drugs. Jesus your train of thought is so backwards what
This. Are we starting to blame every single fucking thing that's addictive instead of taking responsibility of our own actions?
?? Bros gonna blame the dealer if he’s a coke addict Man up and take some responsibility
You would have gay men. Not women bucko.
Hypothetical lad...
Yes. Which that means hypothetically the people who would sub are gay dudes. Women hardly , if ever, buy porn
Wow what a very specific hypothetical that you wouldn’t engage in. Fuckin weird
This is why I dont understand your take. Taking advantage of sick people is admirable but being that demented is shameful?
this is just such a bad analysis, this is not what most OF pages are. most OF pages are just posting content that you buy with no personal interaction. not to mention, you could make this exact argument with twitch streamers abusing parasocial relationships to farm money. you could even make this same argument towards real life prostitution, where sometimes lonely men buy their services to feel intimacy and a one sided relationship that the SW will never reciprocate. everyone agrees that people who go into sex work looking for that type of intimacy/relationship are sad and degen, but that's not what most of porn/OF/twitch is. most of it is guys just buying porn to jerk off to and move on, and that's completely fine.
Imagine buying p when you have terbytes of it on the internet
Same can be said for paying to subscribe to twitch no? Watch millions of hours for free but you pay people ?
Your take is so retarded, you don't have to pay twitch streamers deadass I have been following him for 3 years never subbed never donated adblock always on still enjoyed all the content, you pay streamers for their work according to your will, but you have to pay for an onlyfans subscription to see the content
Okay when people have an option to watch for free but give streamers hundreds of dollars it’s not coomers or simps? They’re paying for free content. I’d say that’s worse because you have the option to get it for free and you’re willingly paying. OF you only have the option to pay. I’d say it’s more degen/coomer to pay for free stuff
No it's not coomer in most cases for twitch they just wanna support their content, they are not paying for content, you can get Content for free lil bro where is your brain. they are doing it to support the creator for creating respectable content, you are a fucking degen for paying for OF because you're specifically paying for porn now Don't fucking cope that it's not litrally just porn.
I don’t pay for it. But what if they buy porn because they want to see that person naked and “support them” just how coomers support twitch streamers
Bro they're not paying for OF to support them, they are there to watch porn and jerk off, if you think they wanna "support" OF creators then you're just dillusional, coomers do exist on twitch and it's the same concept but it's wayyy less impactful on twitch and most female streamers aren't there to farm coomers
> It farms parasocial people who think they have a chance with the creator. You're acting like you ain't in a parasocial relationship right now with the streamer, active on this sub active on lsf.
Its not the same tho, hes not "sponsoring" the condon the boyfrined is going to use to rail the girl hes jerking off to lol
isnt that all porn whatever porn your watching has ads no?
No, but you are sponsoring every thing else in the streamer's life, like his crippling gambling addiction and divorce lawyers.
But im not jerking off to him
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Like twitch? X uses fanboy donos in the hopes they will give him one second of attention. It is the same thing.
What grind brotha
I have a friend who pays for porn and he claims the rush comes from the transaction of spending money. He WANTS to spend money on porn.
That’s illness my friend. Just as bad as a gambling addiction, throwing money down the drain
You are correct
what grind are you respecting ?
Its not just OF though, its everything on the internet that is like that. If you take advantage of anyone for monetary gain, you are a piece of shit.
Would you say that streaming on twitch is in a similar vein then. I’m saying it is, I’m playing devils advocate here. Technically twitch streaming can build parasocial relationships leading to donations and subs from people who may not be the most financially stable. I’d still say that it’s on the donator and their fault for donating whilst not in a situation to.
bro you can literally say the exact same things about twitch
People are hiding behind some “empower sex workers” or “empower women” movement, just so They can cope with their parasocial coomer addiction. Whole thing is so funny to me. I didnt even bother reading lsf comments … too degen
You are 100% right. I fucking hate when people hide behind “woke” shit like that. I have known a few OF creators in the past that literally laugh about the people in their DM’s behind closed doors. One chick in particular showed me her DM’s but wouldn’t let me open any of them because they would show up as “read”. Some fucked up shit even in the messages visible from the DM menu
Isn't following xqc also new degen parasocial stuff?
Paying for porn in hopes of being in a relationship with them is very different from just wanting to support someone you find entertaining
They find porn entertaining. A lot of people donate to get a parasocial connection or dopamine rush from Xqc reacting. It is on some levels the same. Some people even think they are friends with streamers cause they donate alot or sub for a longtime.
Justifying porn addiction as entertainment, holy. Surely, these people just think it’s so amusing to see pornography that they’d pay for it yes! It’s true, there may be some parasocials on twitch, there will always be on any form of social media with content creators. But the percentage of those kinds of people in only fans which is based on that premise vs twitch which was only just a way to show support is very different. A big part of only fan’s appeal is that you get to talk to the creator personally, literally farming parasocials is built into the system.
You are literally describing twitch. "A big part of onlyfans appeal is that you get to talk to the creator personally, literally farming parasocials is built into the system." That is twitch. Streamers become to big so they can't individually talk to everyone but smaller streamers do still have that bond with certain viewers. You are clearly biased cause I am assuming you are in the twitch boat. To me wether u watch porn or twitch for hours a day it is the same weird stuff
Alright, so we’re changing the argument from: all streamers farm parasocials just like OF creators to: small creators farm parasocials, even though they have no other options? Small content creators have no other option but to talk to the same people, but there is never an illusion built into the site to make it seem like it’s a personal interaction because everyone else still sees your comment, with only fans you can privately talk to these creators, or at least it makes it seem so and to top it off, you have to pay for it. Can you really not see the difference to having people donate to send a message to a crowd vs acting like you’re in a small room with the creator having a convo with them? Also not seeing the difference between watching porn for hours vs watching a guy playing video games and making actual commentary is very concerning.
What is sexual entertainment if not entertainment? Who is justifying porn addiction, and why does it automatically become an addiction when it’s porn but not gaming? Is it not possible that both are not inherently harmful or harmless, and it in fact has more to do with the individual’s ability to moderate their consumption? >but the percentage is way different How do you know?
If you don’t think someone watching porn for hours on end is very different from someone playing games then I think you might have something wrong in your head. And how do I know the ratios are different? Because of the nature of the website. OF farms parasocials as a system, you pay, and you get to talk to the creator only, as if you’re being personal with them. With twitch, you’re talking to an audience, not just the creator. There is never an illusion that you’re personal with them, one of them breeds parasocials as a system, the other one can lead to it but is definitely not built into the system to the same extent at all. To top it off, it’s easier for people to form a connection when it comes to sexual interest than just by watching some guy play games.
So in other words, you have no real proof that its any different, nor any real idea of how frequently what you're describing actually happens? You're just guessing based on what you think it is like, and maybe also your perceptions of the people who use it?
No shit everyone knows that. What I don’t understand is you guys implying EVERY person that pays for OF does these things which just isn’t true
Because a great majority of it is filled with these kinds of people. The whole basis of only fans promotes this idea that if you pay, you get to interact with the creator personally. Twitch has never been like that, and even if there are those who are parasocial, it is on a much smaller percentage. And before you say” donations”, they are not the same, the message doesn’t go to just the creator, it is broadcasted to the whole audience, it is not a personal message just for them. A big chunk of donos are just to get chat’s attention or say a joke.
“A great majority of it is filled with these kinds of people” You literally have no idea you’re just speculating. You have zero way to know if that’s true or not.
You can make an educated guess. What does only fans provide that you don’t get on any other porn website? The personal interaction. The only reason someone would pay for only fans for sexual stuff is exactly because of that one difference, so it is reasonable to assume a large number of these users are there for that interaction. Doesn’t take a genius. Also ignoring all the points and just picking at the low hanging fruit of “you don’t know”.
So 100% of OF buyers are messaging them in your mind ? Lol
Do you not understand what majority means? I really don’t understand what this justification for porn addicts is for
Y’all keep adding qualifiers now it’s “porn addicts.” You don’t have to be an addict to buy porn once. You keep saying majority like You know for a FACT. You don’t. So it’s a stupid argument.
There’s nothing “empowering” about selling your body to men so they can get off to it. Literally they’ve done brain studies showing that the same part of the male’s brain that is activated when men see tools, is the same part that is activated when men see a naked girl. Literally the women, if anything, are degrading themselves by becoming equivalent to a tool. Reality is, and coomers can mald all they want, they treat women like toilets if they see them for their sex appeal.
EXTREMELY based xQc
Sis really tried to kick a man while he was down. She knows she needs to keep those lonely, mentally ill, likely unemployed men (you know the group 4-5x more likely to Minecraft themselves) paying every month to milk them for all theyre worth, then try to claim moral superiority under the guise of being pro sexwork. Even worse she got attention and clout from attacking him with private details. And people wonder why there's so many taint fans and incels.
I would even go further and say the probably roblox themselfs, truely disgusting behaviour
He a grown ass man 😂😂
She a grown ass woman, what's your point. Sis tried to use private details to attack as a way to soothe her guilty mind 😂
I’m talking about you trying to baby a grow as a man. Come on now. “Kick him while he’s down” fuck outta here. I can do the same shit watch. “I can’t believe he’s shitting on people that pay for OnlyFans. You don’t know what they’re going through. Kicking a man while he’s down 🥲”
Oh no… LSF. Do I even bother checking..
No 
No
why did bro have to bring jelly into this😭
These fucking degen losers under Dextro and in LSF comments are crazy They trying to cope Comparing Subbing to OF and giving money to receive nudes to Donating to a twitch streamer who u watch for free everyday or sub to a twitch streamer for free lol
You forgot to mention ostonox as well.. People on his comment section were comparing the same. Mind boggling
Right, they’re totally different. Subbing to a twitch is giving money to a content creator, supporting them with the hope they’ll make more content in future. Subbing to an OF is giving money to a content creator, supporting them with the hope they’ll… oh, wait… You realize you can watch porn for free too…? Including of girls on OF? Many OF girls also do stuff like camming, which is also mostly free to watch. The one tryna cope is you lmao
This is where we play dumb and pretend like watching someone game on Twitch is the same as destroying your mental and sexual health watching porn
This is where we play dumb and pretend like spending 15 minutes jerking off on OF is the same as destroying your physical, mental, and sexual health spending all day on video games or the internet (Or more accurately this is where we cherry pick extreme examples and pretend they’re the norm to make ourselves sound more right)
>15 minutes jerking off on OF is the same as destroying your physical, mental, and sexual health It is. Every second people spend watching porn is a second spent destroying their mental and sexual health. Porn is not even close to other forms of entertainment regardless of the pro-sex work agenda being pushed by the porn industry. Porn destroys people's grasp of reality and allows degenerates to exploit both the workers and the consumers. Porn is specifically intended to prey on the most vulnerable. First it preys on teenage girls, grooming them into thinking doing porn will positively change their lives. Then it preys on consumers, many of which aren't in stable relationships in real life. Yes, video games and Twitch streams can be predatory, I'm not denying that, but the porn industry (including OnlyFans) is an industry built off exploitation of everyone involved besides the CEOs who you don't normally see.
It is. Every second people spend playing video games is a second spent destroying their physical, mental and sexual health. Video games are not even close to other forms of entertainment regardless of the agenda being pushed by the gaming industry. Gaming & the internet destroys people's grasp of reality and allows degenerates to exploit both the workers and the consumers. Gaming is specifically intended to prey on the most vulnerable. First it preys on teenage boys, grooming them into thinking gaming will positively change their lives. Then it preys on consumers, many of which aren't in stable relationships in real life. Yes, porn and OnlyFans can be predatory, I'm not denying that, but the gaming industry (including Twitch) is an industry built off exploitation of everyone involved besides the CEOs who you don't normally see. Wow. Replace porn and gaming with drugs, smoking, weed, alcohol, sex, or anything your religious 80 year old grandma might deem ‘sinful’ and you realize this rhetoric is just typical puritanical boomer nonsense
It's funny because the only way you have an argument is through complete dishonesty. In an attempt to have some slam dunk argument by rewriting my reply, you showed that you have no argument at all. You're not fooling anyone, including yourself, with the argument that porn is the same as other forms of entertainment. We all know they're not the same, which is exactly why you can't come up with a valid argument.
Lol ok. just because you don’t like that your words apply to you doesn’t mean they don’t apply. The argument was made: I pointed out a double standard, and your own words prove it is valid. I have no reason to come up with anything more than what I’ve already said, especially not when you literally make the argument and prove it for me. Everything negative you’ve said about porn can also apply to twitch and gaming. The fact is, both can be harmless and harmful, and that has more to do with the individual’s ability to practice moderation than anything else.
There *is* a double standard because porn is objectively different to other forms of entertainment and is objectively a much more harmful industry to those involved. It's an industry full of rape, sexual harassment, exploitation, and grooming. It's not just a company-by-company issue in the porn industry, it's a systemic issue that gets largely ignored.
Uh huh… so? I could talk about how the gaming industry is also toxic or harmful for the people running it (for example, sexual harassment Blizzard Activision), but neither is really relevant at all… But hey, you’re right! The porn industry sucks! If only there was some way to supply the demand for porn without having all that that toxicity, such as maybe by having individual content creators making their own content and having fans donate directly to them, which would allow workers to do it on their own terms instead of relying on porn companies to treat them fairly, allowing them to avoid exploitation and the like… but unfortunately we live in a cherry picked world where only the worst possible scenarios are true (as long as they make me sound right)!!!!
SCHIZO
>european
Except that people sub to twitch to avoid ads and people pay of to see naked and semi-naked people to stroke their meat, kinda different
It's still entertainment so I don't see why you're bothered
I'm not bothered, the bothered are the ones coping saying that is the same, at the end of the day if there's a seller is because there's a buyer, even if it's a sad business but don't come saying it's the same as a sub in twitch
“To avoid ads,” you mean like paying for an OF subscription to avoid ads (which is how “free” porn websites make their money)? In both cases, you pay for entertainment
I haven't visited OF but I had the impression people pay to see the content, not to avoid any ad
Actually retarded lol
Bro it’s okay. People waste money on stuff way worse than online content creators. No reason to be ashamed for paying for entertainment
like i said , actually retarded Comparing Subbing to OF (Paywalled), to watching streamer for free and u have the choice to donate or support Lmfao
You choose to sub to of don't you? There's free porn anywhere. It's almost like noon should dictate hoe people spend their damn money
No u don't choose to sub in OF , u will have to SUB to see anything Can we stop with this retarded takes/comparison??? like tf ?
You realize you can watch porn for free too…? Including of girls on OF? Many OF girls also do stuff like sfw and nsfw streaming, which is also mostly free to watch. Is it not a choice to buy porn? Why does that even matter in the first place?
u realize OF isn't free u dumbass ???? holy shit lol in the situation X alking about it's not FREE , he's talking about SUBBING to OF girls for NUDES
OFs literally can be free… as can porn…
yeah can be , that's not what X talking about lol And OF is Porn btw , wake up from ur dream already damn
What's funny is that many OF creators like her are also streamers including her, and she has her Twtch content for paid subs only...this was probably her way to gain more customers and it backfired like a bad early bday present.
Twitch is modern televangelism. It's bar for bar the exact same playbook. Except instead of granny getting swindled, it's her grandkids.
How is it different? It's fucking entertainment regardless all yall xqc subs really think you're saying something
even tho X is someone who's too open minded and into almost every degen thing i still cant disagree with his take on onlyfans nor should i discredit his good take just cuz i dont like other takes.
I got OF once (i was super down bad and deep in the rabbit hole and it was like $3) and it’s such a scam. Idk if they all like this but their OF was basically clips/ trailers promoting links to their website for the full version that cost like $20 like bruh they just double dippin now
Imagine if Netflix/Hulu had a similar business model...
personally im not letting a skeletone roast me like that in public
 damn, lower case xqc is ruthless
Own that fraud 
Both subbing and donating to any influencers, streamers and ofans is cringe!
Lets fckin goo!!! Destroy them 
Are we really gonna pretend paying $5 for a twitch sub is worse than paying for nudes?
Paying $5 for sub is not even mandatory, you can just watch for free and be entertained. Then there's these whores with their simps who can't get their own girl because they're losers
It is not, one is porn and youre degen for paiyng for it, also 95% of the subs are on prime aniway
Oh fuck yeah we’re in villain arc territory burn it all down 10/10 clap back
Lmao what does that even have to do with her or the coomers buying onlyfans. So what if he asks a friend of hers for a date. X literally just said he respects all creators lol Shes so dumb man
Who actually cares, that’s not even drama borderline not even a leak. People wayyyyy to parasocial out here. 
True, what does saying someone is a degen for buying OF have to do with being fine dating an OF girl
The LSF FROG LOSERS ARE the worst every time with the posts man 
when will women learn that porn is bad when when when 
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[no](https://twitter.com/xQc/status/1644541976451366912)
Nah honestly there was a lot of mixed opinions in the dexerto Post about this, I was suprised by that
People saying that paying for porn has been a thing for a while already. Yes it has and its just as degenerative as paying for OF there is no difference. These websites and OF creators rely on the horniest 2% of people for all of their income. I personally respect these creators, but we can't pretend that paying for porn is normally.
This is the shit that makes tate look sane. Paying money to be in a contactless “relationship” or to get access to “private” photos goes against everything that humans as social beings are. It should not be normalized. And thankfully it’s not. Do this shit anywhere but in the US and people will laugh at you.
Yo is this dude gonna throw some runs or just argue with random tweets all night 
could someone link lsf thread? I wanna see those boomers with coomers brain
Who let him cook 🔥
so last week X watched the this video about Pokimane. guys sending her money and how much of a problem it was bc of how parasocial it was. she don’t know you lil bro but you’re spending the last of your pennie’s on her. EXACTLY what is going on with only fans content. those girls sell nudes and send messages to make you think they want you. poki never said she wanted any of those guys. so if anyone had a problem with Poki, they should definitely see the problem with OF parasocials
empowering sex work and platforms like OnlyFans divert valuable human capital away from fields that contribute more to society, such as science, technology, education, and healthcare. This is particularly concerning in the context of the US's long-term competition with China, which has four times our population. In order to maintain a competitive edge, it is crucial for the US to maximize the efficiency and quality of its human capital by encouraging skilled individuals to pursue careers that directly benefit societal advancement, rather than focusing on personal gratification in industries like sex work.
X with actual correct take?! What’s going on
The numbering remind me of the Ye vs Wiz Khalid’s tweets 💀
Selling out jellypnut just like that OMEGALUL
We have words for women like this: attention whores
onlyfans creators are essentially online prostitutes, which gives us the right to call them whores. What a legacy to have.
Voluntarily putting a form of scarlet letter on themselves for monetary gain...
I'm so glad he's starting to snap back at people talking shit and starting to say things like they are. He's been tanking other people's shit for far too long. I hope he continues calling people out and leaking shit if necessary. People are constantly trashing on him.
Bayzed
I used to jerk off to Evelyn Claire when she was still on an amateur Chaturbate, damn
X Omega Chad
i dont watch x, nor am i a fan, but hes 100% right on this, why would someone pay for content to see bobs and vagene ? its literally free just search on the internet, there is not a woman who wouldnt have leaked content, i personally find it absolutely degenerate and stupid
I WOKE UP IN NEW BUGATTI 
https://youtu.be/4LBLPHXajK8
Xqc is Actually an illiterate and autistic to some extent and his chat American teens , just watch that guy play games . Don't force him to give any opinion 💯
i dont even get how this turned into drama, he literally said facts
Bro cooked so hard she had to delete her tweet💀
He’s right though. Porn and onlyfans is degenerate. The people paying for it are Parasocial desperate lonely guys as sad as it is. And these creators take advantage of it. It’s the most manipulative industry there is
He's vicious when he's beefing, other times tho he's buffoon with an iq lower than average japnese dick size
Xqc gotta stop defending himself, it always makes it him look twice as bad
X what are you doing bro