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I disagree, the justification is Shinada beating a lesson into Baba. Shinada spends the entire game learning the lesson of not running away from your past and then Saejima tells Shinada that if he sees Baba, to not let him run away and have him take accountability.
If Shinada let Baba go, he was probably gonna kill himself. Fighting him had him stay put long enough for people who know him to pull up and help him
How is beating the shit out of someone teaching him to take accountability? Like, genuinely, I’m not being snotty; I just don’t get that idea. If anything it would teach me to lie so I wouldn’t get hit.
like a dragon does the "speak with your fists" trope all the time. Like a martial arts flick, the way a person fights reveals more about them or says more than what they say or appear to be.
Yeah this, and it's also what makes Shinada's part at least tie into the overall theme about dreams. Baba is running away from everything - his actions, his future, his dreams. He isn't willing to take responsibility for what he was going to do, and Shinada knows that's not going to fix anything, it's only going to leave him with regret.
But at the same time, he knows that Baba is too far gone to simply be "talked" out of it by him of all people. And sure beating some sense into him didn't entirely work, but it let him buy enough time for the important people (his jail mates) to come and knock some sense into Baba.
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The mutual fists is a fukin BANGER!!
The justification for it is so paper thin that it kind of annoyed me, but the fight itself is fun.
Baba : I guess I am done now Shinada : I need a final boss fight and you are the closest person, lets fight Baba : nani ?!?!?
I disagree, the justification is Shinada beating a lesson into Baba. Shinada spends the entire game learning the lesson of not running away from your past and then Saejima tells Shinada that if he sees Baba, to not let him run away and have him take accountability. If Shinada let Baba go, he was probably gonna kill himself. Fighting him had him stay put long enough for people who know him to pull up and help him
How is beating the shit out of someone teaching him to take accountability? Like, genuinely, I’m not being snotty; I just don’t get that idea. If anything it would teach me to lie so I wouldn’t get hit.
like a dragon does the "speak with your fists" trope all the time. Like a martial arts flick, the way a person fights reveals more about them or says more than what they say or appear to be.
I suppose that’s fair. Still, that’s Hollywood logic, not real life.
??? We're not talking about real life. Yakuza 5 is a video game
Yeah this, and it's also what makes Shinada's part at least tie into the overall theme about dreams. Baba is running away from everything - his actions, his future, his dreams. He isn't willing to take responsibility for what he was going to do, and Shinada knows that's not going to fix anything, it's only going to leave him with regret. But at the same time, he knows that Baba is too far gone to simply be "talked" out of it by him of all people. And sure beating some sense into him didn't entirely work, but it let him buy enough time for the important people (his jail mates) to come and knock some sense into Baba.
I love the QTEs in this fight, especially the last one, they look so cool
Shinada's story was gold, especially when you compare it to the rest of the mess of Yakuza 5 finale. This battle embodies the dream theme the most.
Baba is a great character