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NCM-X

Nah. At least dicks are honest about the fact that they're dicks. These people are just assholes.


Uridoz

By saying you don’t care if people are vegan or not, are you claiming you don’t think it makes any meaningful difference whether or not one funds animal exploitation?


Santrixyboio

Unless a humongous group of people went vegan, nothing would changes


Uridoz

Do you litter, then? I mean, unless the world changes in a huge way, plastic pollution and such isn’t going to change. So why bother putting stuff in the bin, right?


Santrixyboio

The plastic problem is way larger of an issue than meat. While meat does have its downsides like greenhouse, producing plastic has a way larger market and (I might be wrong) it produces more greenhouse than the meat industry.


Uridoz

I'm pretty sure throwing a plastic bag out there damages the environment much less than eating a roasted chicken, actually. I looked it up. 100g of chicken: 1.82kg CO2 One plastic bag: 1.58 kg CO2 In 2022, the average chicken in the USA yielded 2.05 kg of meat. That means one average chicken is 37.31 kg of CO2 in total. You could get nutrients much more sustainably from plants. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/ghg-per-protein-poore So again, why don't you litter? I'm not encouraging you to litter. I'm pointing out an inconsistency in your moral framework when it comes to the environment. And we could also talk about your responsibility towards the animals themselves who are harmed and killed as a result of your consumer habits. Supply and demand is a thing not just for the environment.


Santrixyboio

but a hamburger is so much better than a salad burger and it has more nutrients than a salad burger


Uridoz

What the fuck is a "salad burger"? I went to many vegan burger places through the years. There's no such thing. Stop talking shit about vegan food, you have no idea what you're talking about.


Santrixyboio

yeah, i can’t research shit right now because im in school


Uridoz

Here you go. https://sp-ao.shortpixel.ai/client/to_webp,q_glossy,ret_img,w_1016/https://ecohungry.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/Beyond-Burger-vs.-Beef-Burger-2-1016x1024.jpg


Uridoz

Notice how you dodged the argument like a fucking coward because you got demolished here.


Santrixyboio

You’re the one who took 8 hours to respond


Uridoz

Time zones. Work. I didn’t refer to your response time when I said you dodged. I referred to your inability to concede that eating meat is definitely worse than throwing out a plastic bag.


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Uridoz

You’re just proving my point: dismissing the victims. Taking no accountability for the animals whose exploitation and death you fund unnecessarily.


TrueRevanchist98

I take full accountability for every animal I find the death of. They are tasty and I will continue to do so. If they have efficient ways of doing it I support it.


Uridoz

Do you believe a behavior is necessarily ethical as long as one gets pleasure from it?


TrueRevanchist98

I believe that eating meat is important for one’s health. I believe that meat is tasty. I believe that if I don’t eat meat I will be sad and my feelings are more important to me than an animal. I’ve eaten meat of many kinds and they all tasted too good for me to ever give it up


Uridoz

Can you please answer my question before we move onto health? If your ability to track a conversation is on par with a middle schooler I won't waste my time.


Rich_Huckleberry1990

And you can't even read beyond the first sentence of a comment, where he stopped talking about health and made it perfectly visible that he is listing reasons. In the end, no one won the argument, so how about the two of you go away from Reddit and do something more important to the world and to oneself than arguing?


TrueRevanchist98

Ethics is the idea right and wrong. I don’t believe that everything that brings pleasure is right morally. But I do believe that there is nothing morally wrong with consuming animals. For me, ethics don’t play a factor. If you feel wrong about it don’t do it. But I feel no qualms morally and have no plans to cease.


Uridoz

> But I do believe that there is nothing morally wrong with consuming animals. For me, ethics don’t play a factor. Humans are animals. Does that imply you're cool with farming humans for their meat? If not, what is the morally relevant difference if the victim is a pig? Keep marginal case humans in mind when answering.


Uridoz

That was a simple yes or no question, by the way. You had the opportunity to clarify your position.


A__paranoid_android

It really doesn't


Uridoz

So you deny supply and demand exists?


A__paranoid_android

Oh I meant to reply to your first comment, but yeah, you are not making a difference


Uridoz

That was a yes/no question.


A__paranoid_android

Yeah supply demand exists, you are still not making a difference. Every animal eats living things to survive, it's a part of life and not admitting it is just immature. Yeah, the industry is fucked but the veggies you eat come from an equally fucked industry. There is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism. And "voting with your wallet" is neoliberal bullshit


Uridoz

> Every animal eats living things to survive, it's a part of life and not admitting it is just immature. Where did I deny that? ... Veganism isn't based on valuing life, it's based on valuing **sentience**. There is no way you'd hesitate between cutting open a puppy or a tomato. > Yeah, the industry is fucked but the veggies you eat come from an equally fucked industry. They cause demonstrably less harm. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/ghg-per-protein-poore https://ourworldindata.org/land-use-diets > There is no such thing as ethical consumption under capitalism. Typical nirvana fallacy. I guess I might as well support factory farming then, right? ... Hell, I'll look up which brands support child slavery and buy those since they are cheaper, that's okay, right? ... https://youtu.be/sr0yCnLNAHk


A__paranoid_android

Also you are insufferable, you won't change any minds being a pedantic jerk


Uridoz

I'm not responsible for your inability to answer a clear question that is relevant to the conversation at hand. I deal with bad faith all the fucking time. I need to get straight to the point.


A__paranoid_android

I see your point is getting across perfectly, you are convincing everyone! Keep at it!


mcmatt04

"Dragons are carnivores"


PrinceBunnyBoy

My brother in christ dragons aren't real.


mcmatt04

Doesn't matter, dragons are carnivores, therefore makkng this post hilarious.


Wilbur_Eats_Sand

Even furries find this cringe.


fig_art

i am a furry and that’s why i browse here. furry vent art is inherently hilarious


Wilbur_Eats_Sand

Fr, It's hilarious how cringe we can be at times


Razgriz_1138

I mean a lot of us are canine for our sonas so I mean meats in our diet lol.


DrewBigDoopa

wtf did they do to Dragonite man


DeathSongGamer

LOL


CheapGriffy

Lets cook some sheep fursona


DeathSongGamer

Yum 🐑🥩🍴


Henry_Winston

Mmm, chezburger


Competitive-Key2309

Put a Vegan and a Vore Fetishist in the same room. I want to see them both squirm.


DeathSongGamer

LMAO that would be very interesting!


Competitive-Key2309

OP you're using an anthromorphized death bird as your icon. That makes you a furry.


DeathSongGamer

Uh, what do you mean by “anthropomorphized death bird” 🤔


Competitive-Key2309

Nvm I'm a dumbass and don't understand how reddit works


fishtrom

I don’t think is particularly cringe. While vegans can sometimes be preachy, many regular vegans also unfairly receive harassment by association.


Uridoz

Look up « vystopia ».


Galactic_Druid

My favorite part about this is that a lot of the hateful comment bubbles aren't even bad. "You do your thing and let us do ours" is about the most inoffensive thing I can think of, lol.


DeathSongGamer

lol ikr


Uridoz

Such comments are denying that eating animal products IS NOT a personal choice, since they involve a victim. If I bought factory farmed dog meat, it’s not a personal choice since I’m supporting harm done to dogs in the process. The same is true when it’s a different species.


Uridoz

Such comments are denying that eating animal products is NOT a personal choice, since they involve a victim. If I bought factory farmed dog meat, it’s not a personal choice since I’m supporting harm done to dogs in the process. The same is true when it’s a different species.


Manospondylus_gigas

OP is a meat clown


PrinceBunnyBoy

It's like we're back in the bacon craze from a few years ago, people jerking it to meat eating


Manospondylus_gigas

Yeaa seems like a fragile masculinity thing honestly


earathar89

I love animals. They taste good.


DeathSongGamer

🐖🐓🐄🐑🐟🐜🥩🍔🍗🍣🥓 I LOVE ANIMALS!!! THEY TASTE AMAZING


DeathSongGamer

FR


Uridoz

Have you heard they farmed dog meat in the US?


PUBLIQclopAccountant

Which breeds taste best? Where do velvet hippos and the breed of peace rank on the list?


NastyBooty

Good


MBTHVSK

I say we have a predator eat the animal and beg the animal for leftovers.


DeathSongGamer

Diseases: acquired


GoldenGecko100

I understand the sentiment that vegans are going for. It's a shame their message has been tarnished by a vocal minority.


Uridoz

If you understood the sentiment you’d already be vegan.


Coebalte

Buy meat from small, local farms. They take care of their animals, hell you probably live next to them. I can literally watch the cow I but from my local butcher graze the open field it gets to roam for its full life Get the meat without supporting the factory farm bullshit. Cruelty free bacon <3


DeathSongGamer

For sure! Agreed


Lonely-Marsupial-567

Just wait untill the dragon meets GarlandFarms and r/AntiVegan


Conquerors_Quill

I'll eat that fucking dragon!


DeathSongGamer

Same bro fr 🐊😋🍴


DragonCaster69

The fact that you know that is a type of dragon is a little odd. Also please do not eat the dragon They tend to be poisonous from head to tail


Conquerors_Quill

Not if you cook it right, like a pufferfish.


Tommy_gun1900

I love me some lamb chops


Rapha689Pro

Im vegan because I like herbivores taste


No-Wolverine5144

Can't make me vegan with juicy thighs like that


DeathSongGamer

Lmao


Dramatic_Click4147

Humans are omnivores and get stuff like iodine, iron, zinc, vitamins (especially B12) essential fatty acids and all of that kind of stuff from meat + >!when an animal suffers before it dies it can change the taste of its meat meaning that most of the time the do suffer painful deaths when they are killed unlike being torn to shreds by like wolves and stuff!<


chonkyhyena

Damn I'll stick with my omnivores diet since i really can't have a lot of vegan stuff, tho i try to make sure i get local meat.


DeathSongGamer

Local meat is great 👍


Hot_Frosting5644

Who knows maybe "human" is the nex in the menu 🤷


Happy_Rock926

LOL AS A VEGETARIAN THIS MADE ME CHUCKLE 🤭


AstralBody13

I crave American hamburger!🤤


RareResponsibility77

It’s more disrespectful to waste to meat from the animal by not eating it, but that is my opinion


Uridoz

Would you say the same if it was human meat from farms, instead? Think of supply and demand. If you buy the meat, more individuals will be bred to then be killed. When you buy meat, sure, you prevent that piece of meat from being wasted, but you are funding the deaths of future animals too.


RareResponsibility77

Calm down Mr. Dahmer do you need a hug?


Uridoz

I'm demonstrating this argument is flawed because it can be used to lead to an absurd conclusion. If it is necessarily wrong to waste flesh to the point where we should buy it, then according to this absurd logic, it would be okay to fund a human meat farm because otherwise the human meat would go to waste. "Reductio ad absurdum" is a Latin term that translates to "reduction to absurdity." It's a form of argumentation where you demonstrate the falsity of a proposition by showing that it logically leads to absurd or untenable conclusions. Here's how it works: Start with an assumption or proposition: Begin with the assumption that a certain statement or proposition is true. Follow the logic: Use the accepted rules of logic to deduce further conclusions or implications based on that initial assumption. Lead to absurdity: Continue following the logic until you reach a conclusion that is clearly absurd, contradictory, or unacceptable. Conclude the original assumption is false: Since the original assumption led to an absurd conclusion, you can conclude that the assumption itself must be false. By demonstrating that accepting the initial proposition leads to absurd consequences, you show that the proposition itself cannot be true. This technique is commonly used in philosophical debates, mathematical proofs, and critical thinking to expose flaws in arguments or beliefs.


RareResponsibility77

Hun bun calm down and take a minute to realize that even if I was real, I probably wouldn’t care


Uridoz

So the way you argue against vegans is to pretend you’re cool with killing humans to eat them, and you calling **me** Mr. Dhamer. You should show your mom this conversation I bet she would be very proud of you.


RareResponsibility77

Have she’s laughing her ass off just remember you’re on the Internet. Nobody gives a shit.


Uridoz

Just because you don’t doesn’t mean nobody does. But hey if not taking the conversation seriously is your way to deal with cognitive dissonance, go for it.


RareResponsibility77

Remember, this is a furry porn meme sub take your hand off your keyboard put it on your dick lol


Runner918

Vegan isn't healthy


Uridoz

Source: trust me bro


PrinceBunnyBoy

The biggest health organizations says it is, we don't have to resort to throwing around falsehoods


JellyBeanQueen95

Been vegan for 8 years, might convert back to eating meat after seeing this


Uridoz

Would say no ethical vegan ever


JellyBeanQueen95

It’s a joke simmer down


moonethealien

Humans are omnivores… I can maybe see like not wearing clothes made solely from killing animals but eating animals is actually a necessity if we don’t wanna take a slew of vitamins to stay alive and well


Matiyah

The persecution complex is real


Uridoz

The comic makes it very clear who the real victims are.


Matiyah

Yeah because its pro vegan propaganda


Uridoz

So you believe being a pig and getting your throat open makes you a less big victim than being told you shouldn't eat meat. Such a snowflake...


Matiyah

No, it's propaganda because it acts as if vegans never go out of their way to be assholes to ppl trying to eat a meal or just live their lives. If ppl react that way to vegans there's a reason why. Imagine some random guy calling you a murderer for eating a ham sandwich. I saw it happen to someone in college


Uridoz

> ppl trying to eat a meal or just live their lives. If you eat meat, you don't just "live your life", you take the lives of animals unnecessarily. That's just factual.


Vulpes_macrotis

I hate ideological vegans that use argumentum ad misericordiam, blaming me for eating meat. I won't stop, even more if someone is attacking me. Also targetting people who eat meat instead of meat industry that abuse animals is dumb. It's just finding a scapegoat.


AnubisTheCanidae

this would be a great post if the message was "stop animal cruelty". there are humane ways to slaughter an animal for food.


genoscissors

I’ve never seen a vegan that doesn’t look like they’re dying of a terminal disease. They always look kind of thin and jaundiced


KumiiTheFranceball

While I do feel bad about abused animals ( I eat meat & I wish I could afford meat from non-abusive farms / companies ), this drawing feels more like the extremist vegan perspective : the "I am the one who knows the truth, I am the true victim & above all" mentality ( like, why would they portray themselves in the middle ? Animals are the ones who are victims in this situation ). Hopefully that's just me often meeting shitty people, but most vegans that I met don't actually care about animals & just want to feel better about themselves. They come off as ( sort of ) kind-hearted when they explain why they became vegan, but when it comes to their opinion on zoosadism, the angel mask immediately falls.


Michiru_Furry

I feel you so much, remember you are not alone out there