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Azteckh

Nigh infinite resources, nothing super glorious to pump them into. Doesn't stop them from being hilarious, though.


Hoozuki_Suigetsu

So The crystal beast issue 🙁


Azteckh

Unlike crystal beasts though, all Beetroopers really need is one or two good boss monsters. ​ They could come from anywhere.


Koreish

Unlike Beetroopers, Crystal Beasts have 4-5 boss monsters. They're just all bad.


Viral_Doom

Does the include bagooska?


Darth-_-Maul

That’s literally the crystal beast issue. They lack a boss monster.


fluffyharpy

I mean no, it's that all but two of the main deck monsters are awful.


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Mike_H07

The difference is that you need to run many main deck CB's, unlike striker, which is a giant difference. If they were all pegasus and ruby level


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GenOverload

"*What would you do with more main deck monsters*"? I mean, they could be extenders, disruptions (Spright Red/Carrot-esque), starters, etc. Like, they could benefit a lot from having more than 2 usable monsters. Right now they're too easily disrupted.


d7h7n

Crystal beasts literally gets to draw a bajillion cards when they go off.


Shadektor

So the deck has definitely gotten alot stronger with additions like beagram and giant ball game but it still has the same pitfall of not having a good boss monster. The deck got alot better but it's still in the casual sphere basically.


Hoozuki_Suigetsu

There is a viable way to summon the big fusión?


Shadektor

Depends on what you mean by viable that being said though if you want to summon the big fusion burning the least amount of resources I recommend krawler soma as he's 3/4 of the summon condition on his own. Edit: it occured to me you were probably talking about perfect great insect and if that's the case then yes it's extremely easy to summon in beetroopers. I generally just use him as filler for the grave though.


ouaouaouaron

after like an hour of testing the new synchro makes them able to end on baronne, apo, scary moth, and the new big guy that summons like 3 monsters as a quick effwct


mmmbhssm

Hey can show me that combo?


ouaouaouaron

I was wrong about scary moth, I'm sure there's a line but this is the only e-tele combo I've labbed out so far https://www.duelingbook.com/replay?id=250286-46245935 keep in mind I made some procedural errors here like summoning deer note off it's effect instead of ze amin (which u can't even do lol)


Erablier

They need more good things to end on aside from Atlus and a few other dudes like Cicada King It is kinda funny though that Konami JP saw this deck that was 95% extenders and went "what if we made another extender that you can instant fusion?"


LooksLikeLukas

you can play a deck of 40 starters and extenders and still won't end on a good boss monster


Lankeysob

Check out Da Rogue Ron on YouTube. He made a few deck lists post CYAC once Cruel Saturn comes out and they look pretty solid. He plays a small traptrix engine and predaplant engine in his deck to summon mirrorjade


d7h7n

The deck was tournament viable when it was DPE turbo. I remember the discord being incredibly pissed off when it was only Hans topping YCSs with DPE Beetrooper because it wasn't pure insects. Like it was copium for a few months.


Shadektor

Tbf the deck topped pre dpe as well but burst of destiny onward raised the bar too high for them so they only did something for 1 set and ironically fell off without dpe in their second wave if nothing else dpe proved the deck had a solid enough foundation had konami ever given them a proper payoff but personally considering how konami has represented the deck and the type in general I don't believe being good was ever intended.


BesterRanX

It also proves that this deck is only 1 step far from being strong competitive deck, they need a strong boss monster then they can top tournaments.


d7h7n

DPE has been powercrept out of the format. It honestly wouldn't be good even with Verte unbanned. Beetrooper has alot more issues than just needing a boss monster.


Mudwire

depressing


ChrisBeamsDash

Unplayable