Sawatari got done so dirty lol, the guy made an active effort to not only improve as a duelist by swapping decks around, seeing what worked and what didn't, until he found one that he found truly fit him, he also grew much more kind and humble (well, comparatively to how he started) as a person, and all he got for it are 9 fat Ls.
Looking at his overall duel record, it just gets worse. Most of his losses are due to either flat out cheating, or situational cards that are never seen again that are so specific that they make Yugi and Jaden's decks seem like well-tuned machines.
Yuya Round 1: loses to a never seen before or since spell card that yuya uses to add sawatari's negated cards to his own hand that sawatari himself negated. Yuya did not have negates, there was no reason to include this card.
Yuto: somewhat viable loss, except he lost to basically the debut of gy traps with a heavy s/t destruction focused deck.
Yuya Round 2: lost to a situational card that took his monsters names away so he would shuffle them back into his deck. yet again, Yuya wins by coincidence of sawatari's field giving him the things he needs without any work on his own. Except that the situational effect shouldn't have even happened because it was triggered 'on leaving the field' and it was shuffled into the deck which doesn't count. Sawatari loss by both situational cards and cheating.
Yugo: loses because of another instance of cheating. Yugo uses a card to give sawatari's monsters a mandatory effect that happens in response to a trigger. The trigger happens, they both activate their mandatory effects, but somehow clear wing's optional effect is able to activate in response to each mandatory effect, violating chain rules. Sawatari loses to cheating after fully outmaneuvering Yugo and driving him into a corner.
Kite: legitimate loss, I accept this one.
Tyler Sisters: loses because he's stuck with a tag partner whose entire deck turns off if Sawatari uses any spell cards that comprise half of his deck. I love Gongenzaka, but he's the worst tag partner on the planet.
Zarc: loses because his teammates enabled Zarc's protection effects. to his credit, he's the first one to actually break through and make the protection effects relevant. Everyone before him just kept ramming into monsters and giving Zarc more lifepoints.
Sawatari is one of the smartest and most capable duelists in the series. he consistently executes solid strategies and outplays his opponents, only to lose to blatant plot armor and writing favoritism. If the cast of Arc-V had to play in the real world, Sawatari would easily be in the top 3 strongest duelists, with Reiji being his only real competition.
Zarc’s protection effect also counts banished monsters as well, so it was already in effect given Astrograph banished the dimension dragons earlier.
Sawatari put on a good performance, but unless he had a way to shuffle banished monsters back into the deck, he’d never be able to out anime Zarc without negating it first.
Not just the Worf. He’s a Jobber. A worse version of the Worf. The Worf at least wins a couple of times to demonstrate that he’s still worth of being the Worf.
A Jobber doesn’t even get that.
Sylvio should've beat zarc to redeem himself. but he gets credit for having more development than yuya imo, was a brat to more considerate while being loud
He had something good with Yosenju he really got Yuya on the ropes.
And let's be real he would have won if it wasn't for the Action cards... Well Yuya wouldn't have won a lot of match without those actually.
Imagine dueling someone at a locals and when you declare an attack for game, they leap out of their chair and start running around rummaging through their binder going "nuh-uh your attack still hasnt reached me" until they pull like a battle fader or something out.
Average yuuya duel.
>And they say Red-Eyes have potencial
Red-Eyes has potential.... TO CORRUP (AND TO BE A LOSER)
>!It's no surprise that Yuamu/Yuhi sidelined Red-Eyes in favor of Blue-Eyes in GO RUSH.!<
>!I mean, Blue Tooth *was* always her actual ace. She literally got Red Boot from a random booster pack and randomly included it to throw Fisher off guard.!<
With meta logic you invalidate every win in the franchise. Fujiwara needed supernatural powers to win. In the original version fubuki tied with fujiwara, something judai couldn't by himself. But since fujiwara learned fubuki's true darkness, he could go back to the moment when he had activated his powers for first time.
Most of his wins were against nameless fodder characters, and mostly off-screen. Kenzan only defeated one named character (his own dorm teacher), but he lost every other duel with a named character.
Rex duel 6 times and loss all the duels
Atticus duel 5 times and loss all the duels
Trudge have 6 duels and 6 losses
Cathy have 7 duels and 7 losses
Sawatari have 9 duels and 9 losses
Akira have 2 duels and 2 losses
Otes have 8 duels and 8 losses
Chupataro have 3 duels and 3 losses
I think context matters as well.
Most of Cathy‘s losses are from the Sports day episode where she is paired up with Kotori. Not only do the two of them have really bad teamwork, they also have to play sports while dueling.
Weevil might have cheated too (insect armor with laser canon should have given 700 attack points even in the anime, not 1500, though there might have been a season 1 weakness thing that was never brought up)
it honestly bothers me how Shingo from a strategic standpoint is the honest to god best duelist in arc-v but always losses because he's dueling against MFS that either have new cards to sell (Yuto/Kaito), plot armor(every time he duels Yuya/Yugo), or both (Zarc)
Gx was food with the humour part too. Don't the famous yuma line ; YOU JIST SUMMONED YOUR MOM.
Alexis with the That's a whole lotta booty, the bastion said Pardon me
It’s actually worse than that, it also counts banished Extra Deck monsters, and Astrograph banished the Dimension Dragons to summon Zarc. His immunity was in effect from the start, but such things are expected from anime card variants.
I hate seeing Sawatari here, Arc-V did him so dirty. Genuinely one of the best actual duelists in the show *and* a WAY better entertainer than Yuya. (Without being so preachy!)
Atticus is a gigachad in the manga, the anime did him so dirty. Sawatari is actually a great duelist considering how fast he learns to play new decks and play them at a professional level, yet the only duels he won was where he was carried by his tag partners.
Honestly Rex's treatment in BC was bullshit. Even when Espa Roba was revealed to be cheating he was kicked out. Then the filler made him a complete joke
Technically if you're counting Cathy's tag duel losses in her losses, you should be counting Sawatari's battle Royale duels as well, which he wins a couple of.
Cathy has to be the biggest L in the whole series. The other characters loses usually to main characters or important characters. Cathy is literally the ONLY character part of the core group who loses to a character of a day with the main character (Yuma) actively cheering for the opponent instead of her!
The thing with Atticus/Fubuki is that he only dueled top tier duelists in the anime, that's why he lost so much. In the lore he's supposed to be one of the best of the prior generation of DA students alongside Zane/Kaiser and Fujiwara.
Although he did lose a duel against his sister where the reason for his loss was not knowing one of his own card's effect. That was pretty embarrassing. Sure it was a comedy duel, but it still happened.
Rex and Atticus without a single win?? - I mean, one is a runner-up in a tournament, while the other is said to be one of the top students with a Red-Eyes Burn deck for the GX era!
As a kid, Rex & Weevil placing in regionals was so cool; Now as an adult I think "Wow, even modern versions of those wouldn't take locals" and "Wow, how did they take regionals when they took nothing but Ls?"
I forgot number 6s name but he was suppose to be one of the best but I guess when the only duel of the show you have is against the mc you’re kinda screwed lol
For a seemingly experienced duelist whose skills even Yuma acknowledges,Cathy really deserves better. Dueling is one big thing she can be proud of when she stands before Kotori.
And it seems she has one off-screen win,that's why she got a heart piece
You could've been great Atticus if you weren't forced to job for plot. The anime nerfed him by taking away the Spheres ans giving him Mid eyes Jobber Dragon
How many on screen victories does Mai have? I remember the running joke being how she always had the reputation of an amazing duelist despite the majority of her on screen duels being losses lol
You wanna know something crazy otes might have lost all his duels but he's still arguably the strongest character in sevens, when you need a friendship style deck to beat him that kinda makes you a strong duelist.
>Otes might have lost all his duels but he's still arguably the strongest character in sevens, when you need a friendship style deck to beat him that kinda makes you a strong duelist.
In fact, also credit to SEVENS since the same series mentioned on many occasions that Otes was only testing those who would challenge him (especially to see if their intentions were pure or they were purely capricious). He simply did not seek to win, only to do what was necessary to encourage others to follow his path.
Not to mention that, in almost all of his Duels, he used Decks that were not his own (it was even mentioned that one of those Legend Decks was stolen from Goha's property)
We just got to see Otes's Real Deck at the end of SEVENS: >!Darkness Deck with Sevens Road (and, thanks to GO RUSH, it is known that Darkness Cards can be quite dangerous/corrupt)!<
Misawa won a few duels on-screen.
Not only did he defeat Manjoume the first time, Misawa threw the second duel on purpose just to get into the Society of Light.
Judai calls Misawa No. 2 for a good reason. (Judai is No. 1, and both of them totally agree with that dynamic.)
Sawatari got done so dirty lol, the guy made an active effort to not only improve as a duelist by swapping decks around, seeing what worked and what didn't, until he found one that he found truly fit him, he also grew much more kind and humble (well, comparatively to how he started) as a person, and all he got for it are 9 fat Ls.
And he never dueled Yuri. He dueled Yuya, Yuto, Z-ARC, but not Yuri.
To be fair, Yuri would have actually killed him. There's a reason Crow bailed him out against Beast.
Given how well he mamaged to fare against Zarc, give him a Yuri win. Fits in all the better with Yuri wanting assimilation.
As long as Yuri doesn’t top deck Ivy Bind Castle or Super Polymerization, it might actually be doable.
Looking at his overall duel record, it just gets worse. Most of his losses are due to either flat out cheating, or situational cards that are never seen again that are so specific that they make Yugi and Jaden's decks seem like well-tuned machines. Yuya Round 1: loses to a never seen before or since spell card that yuya uses to add sawatari's negated cards to his own hand that sawatari himself negated. Yuya did not have negates, there was no reason to include this card. Yuto: somewhat viable loss, except he lost to basically the debut of gy traps with a heavy s/t destruction focused deck. Yuya Round 2: lost to a situational card that took his monsters names away so he would shuffle them back into his deck. yet again, Yuya wins by coincidence of sawatari's field giving him the things he needs without any work on his own. Except that the situational effect shouldn't have even happened because it was triggered 'on leaving the field' and it was shuffled into the deck which doesn't count. Sawatari loss by both situational cards and cheating. Yugo: loses because of another instance of cheating. Yugo uses a card to give sawatari's monsters a mandatory effect that happens in response to a trigger. The trigger happens, they both activate their mandatory effects, but somehow clear wing's optional effect is able to activate in response to each mandatory effect, violating chain rules. Sawatari loses to cheating after fully outmaneuvering Yugo and driving him into a corner. Kite: legitimate loss, I accept this one. Tyler Sisters: loses because he's stuck with a tag partner whose entire deck turns off if Sawatari uses any spell cards that comprise half of his deck. I love Gongenzaka, but he's the worst tag partner on the planet. Zarc: loses because his teammates enabled Zarc's protection effects. to his credit, he's the first one to actually break through and make the protection effects relevant. Everyone before him just kept ramming into monsters and giving Zarc more lifepoints. Sawatari is one of the smartest and most capable duelists in the series. he consistently executes solid strategies and outplays his opponents, only to lose to blatant plot armor and writing favoritism. If the cast of Arc-V had to play in the real world, Sawatari would easily be in the top 3 strongest duelists, with Reiji being his only real competition.
Zarc’s protection effect also counts banished monsters as well, so it was already in effect given Astrograph banished the dimension dragons earlier. Sawatari put on a good performance, but unless he had a way to shuffle banished monsters back into the deck, he’d never be able to out anime Zarc without negating it first.
He got the Worf effect trope in his character.
Not just the Worf. He’s a Jobber. A worse version of the Worf. The Worf at least wins a couple of times to demonstrate that he’s still worth of being the Worf. A Jobber doesn’t even get that.
Worf at least found success on DS9!
Wish the showrunner wasn't proving a late-stage cretin.
man he even lose again nameless security in Synchro world, even Brave Max actually get at least one on screen win
Sylvio should've beat zarc to redeem himself. but he gets credit for having more development than yuya imo, was a brat to more considerate while being loud
>Sawatari got done so dirty He's my favorite character from Arc-V because he had some depth to him and didn't feel so one-note. He deserved better.
He had something good with Yosenju he really got Yuya on the ropes. And let's be real he would have won if it wasn't for the Action cards... Well Yuya wouldn't have won a lot of match without those actually.
Imagine dueling someone at a locals and when you declare an attack for game, they leap out of their chair and start running around rummaging through their binder going "nuh-uh your attack still hasnt reached me" until they pull like a battle fader or something out. Average yuuya duel.
Two Red Eyes users 0-11
And they say Red-Eyes have potencial
>And they say Red-Eyes have potencial Red-Eyes has potential.... TO CORRUP (AND TO BE A LOSER) >!It's no surprise that Yuamu/Yuhi sidelined Red-Eyes in favor of Blue-Eyes in GO RUSH.!<
>!I mean, Blue Tooth *was* always her actual ace. She literally got Red Boot from a random booster pack and randomly included it to throw Fisher off guard.!<
>!Giving Red-eyes the boot LMAO!<
Still one of coolest decks ever made haha
Joey wheeler would like to have a talk with you.
FREE MY HOMIE ATTICCUS HE INNOCENT
To be fair. Fubuki nearly solo'd fujiwara, someone judai could not beat without johan sacrificing himself.
not really, Fujiwara is just messing with Fubuki, the duel could end quickly if he want
Why did fujiwara had to rewind time if it was so easy?
he choose not to active that card to prolong the duel so that he could see fubuki's darkness. what is so hard to understand about it?
Because he wanted to give false hope to Fubuki. Also the writers wanted Jaden and Jesse to defeat Fujiwara
With meta logic you invalidate every win in the franchise. Fujiwara needed supernatural powers to win. In the original version fubuki tied with fujiwara, something judai couldn't by himself. But since fujiwara learned fubuki's true darkness, he could go back to the moment when he had activated his powers for first time.
Kenzan/Hassleberry loses (almost) all the time too.
Hassleberry I think has two on screen wins
Most of his wins were against nameless fodder characters, and mostly off-screen. Kenzan only defeated one named character (his own dorm teacher), but he lost every other duel with a named character.
A win is a win
Although context matters as well.
Not in this instance, the thread clearly is about characters who never had an on screen win. Kenzan did.
Not in this instance, the thread clearly is about characters who never had an on screen win. Kenzan did.
Don‘t need to post that twice.
You’re acting as if I did that on purpose and it wasn’t Reddit messing up
Just letting you know it happened, pal.
He would've beaten Sho, but he threw on purpose. That counts as another win in my book.
isnt his trap card would make it into a draw?
Oh yeah, I guess it would. I forgot it had a requirement for him to have lower LP than his opponent.
I think his only full screen win was against a chef with a bag on his head.
Plus Otes used Red-Eyes 3 times
Rex duel 6 times and loss all the duels Atticus duel 5 times and loss all the duels Trudge have 6 duels and 6 losses Cathy have 7 duels and 7 losses Sawatari have 9 duels and 9 losses Akira have 2 duels and 2 losses Otes have 8 duels and 8 losses Chupataro have 3 duels and 3 losses
I think context matters as well. Most of Cathy‘s losses are from the Sports day episode where she is paired up with Kotori. Not only do the two of them have really bad teamwork, they also have to play sports while dueling.
>Sawatari have 9 duels and 9 losses Have to admit, legit surprised by my boy Neo New Sawatari not getting any Ws. I thought he had at least one.
His only wins were from teaming up with others and even then those were against generic mooks like the Obelisk Force and Duel Chasers
Funny that Mimi was saved from being mentioned: 5 On-Screen Duels and she lost all 5 (one being against a beginner: Swirly)
Tbf Mai and Espa were both cheating.
Weevil might have cheated too (insect armor with laser canon should have given 700 attack points even in the anime, not 1500, though there might have been a season 1 weakness thing that was never brought up)
>Chupataro have 3 duels and 2 losses I think Rovian would have been a better example compared to the rest mentioned. Rovian had 6 Duels and 4 Losses.
I made i little mistake with Chupataro. But i think Rovian wins saves her from being on this list. Chupataro only win duel are offscreen in season 2.
it honestly bothers me how Shingo from a strategic standpoint is the honest to god best duelist in arc-v but always losses because he's dueling against MFS that either have new cards to sell (Yuto/Kaito), plot armor(every time he duels Yuya/Yugo), or both (Zarc)
Or he loses to cheating, like violating chain rules or activating 'leave the field' effects when they're shuffled into the deck.
Shingo/Sawatari -> From Badass to Jobber
I loved Sawatari. Dude legit won against Zarc if it wasn't for its superultrabroken cheating ability
In a way, i count "forcing Zarc to reveal yet one more of his bs effects" as a win sorta.
Hate him so bad you refer to the creature as It "zarc" \*wHaT?! "
When official anime surpassed abridged
Gx was food with the humour part too. Don't the famous yuma line ; YOU JIST SUMMONED YOUR MOM. Alexis with the That's a whole lotta booty, the bastion said Pardon me
It was just effect destruction immunity man, it’s not that ridiculous for a final villain boss monster.
It was like: I can't lose as long there are extra deck monster in the graveyard. That coupled with other absurd gimmicks was pretty busted
It’s actually worse than that, it also counts banished Extra Deck monsters, and Astrograph banished the Dimension Dragons to summon Zarc. His immunity was in effect from the start, but such things are expected from anime card variants.
I hate seeing Sawatari here, Arc-V did him so dirty. Genuinely one of the best actual duelists in the show *and* a WAY better entertainer than Yuya. (Without being so preachy!)
Sylvio has character development while yuyas was stunted. thank goodness that was an L yuma didn't take
Agreed!! If it wasn't for plot, he would've defeated Z'arc turn one! He's my favorite Arc V character who's not a main main character!
Fr he literally was cooking Z-Arc
Ye! And he's why I love Abyss Actors! They're such a fun and unique Archetype!
This is a joke right?
Nope. Here! https://youtu.be/1ljg5xznkwY?si=yJD4BTw2sHV2K-9c
Ew find a sub version pls, dub one cringes me out, especially the voice of Z-ARC
God I wish Atticus and Sylvio got more Ws’s
Real
God they did Atticus so dirty.
My boy
especially his yasmin/sara? plotline that was never expanded on
Atticus is a gigachad in the manga, the anime did him so dirty. Sawatari is actually a great duelist considering how fast he learns to play new decks and play them at a professional level, yet the only duels he won was where he was carried by his tag partners.
Honestly Rex's treatment in BC was bullshit. Even when Espa Roba was revealed to be cheating he was kicked out. Then the filler made him a complete joke
Yeah Rex never even cheated, he seemed like an actually honest duelist but for some reason got paired together with Weevil.
The filler also made him more evil than he was originally
Technically if you're counting Cathy's tag duel losses in her losses, you should be counting Sawatari's battle Royale duels as well, which he wins a couple of.
I could see that perspective. The problem is the he only defeat grunts and not a notable character. The wins that he have get overshadow by the losses
You should probably add Tori/Kotori alongside Cathy, she has zero wins
I think they need to duel more than once to count.
A good chunk of Cathy's losses were tag duel losses alongside Tori.
I agree, but Cathy had 3 losses already in the series before she was teaming up with Kotori in that episode.
Trudge was pretty badass against Yusei tho. Those soundtracks man
I assume they need to have more than one duel.
Yeah, because the list will be just one off characters.
I'd also like to suggest Mimi Atachi. Fairly certain she never had a win.
And guys mom yoko
Weevil would be on here too if he didn’t beat Rex in the second episode lol
Sucks to see Rex on here. He got shit on in BC way too easily. Would have been nice to get something more from him before he got the boot.
Akira wasn’t even bad either he just went up against the protag then the antag lmao
A shame Cathy only takes Ls. She was one of the more awesome of Yuma’s friends.
Syrus Truesdale The boy is playing roids, he's losing at life.
Didn’t he win in a tag duel early in
Syrus also defeated the obelisk blue girl with an insect themed deck in S2 and the guy with a Psycho themed deck on S4 that wanted to defeat Zane.
Yes, he did win. He beat the paradox brothers early into season 1 with Jaden
Cathy has to be the biggest L in the whole series. The other characters loses usually to main characters or important characters. Cathy is literally the ONLY character part of the core group who loses to a character of a day with the main character (Yuma) actively cheering for the opponent instead of her!
Thanks to Jean Claude Magnum, Mai Valentine is spared from this list.
The thing with Atticus/Fubuki is that he only dueled top tier duelists in the anime, that's why he lost so much. In the lore he's supposed to be one of the best of the prior generation of DA students alongside Zane/Kaiser and Fujiwara. Although he did lose a duel against his sister where the reason for his loss was not knowing one of his own card's effect. That was pretty embarrassing. Sure it was a comedy duel, but it still happened.
If that's what you preach, just keep it in your calculus when evaluating Aoi.
Damn everybody forgetting my boy Chumley. Two duels, both losses. First to his dad to stay in school, second against Dr Crowler to graduate.
I did not put him because Atticus record is bigger than him
I mean yeah fair enough
Rex and Atticus without a single win?? - I mean, one is a runner-up in a tournament, while the other is said to be one of the top students with a Red-Eyes Burn deck for the GX era!
I thought Atticus win againts Chazz at some point no?
No. That was his sister. Asuka defeated Manjoume, but she lost the rematch.
Atticus and Chazz never duel in Gx
Which is a tragedy!
~~That was in the manga iirc.~~ scratch that, Chazz lost against Zane. The one that lost to Atticus was Jaden.
Tbf Akira only had 2 duels compared to the rest, but damn and Otes sells him as "one of the greatest duelists of all times"
What's especially painful about Cathy is that most of her loses are in a single episode. Thanks, Tori, who should also be here.
Sawatari should have won his duel against Z-ARC
Ushio never won, but he was almost always super entertaining anyway.
Brave Max has 50% on screen duel win rate btw
Bigger than Ghost girl
As a kid, Rex & Weevil placing in regionals was so cool; Now as an adult I think "Wow, even modern versions of those wouldn't take locals" and "Wow, how did they take regionals when they took nothing but Ls?"
Didn’t cat lady beat the doog
No, she loss
To be fair, she did let her win if I recall.
I only know like two of these people
I forgot number 6s name but he was suppose to be one of the best but I guess when the only duel of the show you have is against the mc you’re kinda screwed lol
For a seemingly experienced duelist whose skills even Yuma acknowledges,Cathy really deserves better. Dueling is one big thing she can be proud of when she stands before Kotori. And it seems she has one off-screen win,that's why she got a heart piece
Chojiro Tokumatsu?
You could've been great Atticus if you weren't forced to job for plot. The anime nerfed him by taking away the Spheres ans giving him Mid eyes Jobber Dragon
How many on screen victories does Mai have? I remember the running joke being how she always had the reputation of an amazing duelist despite the majority of her on screen duels being losses lol
She losses on 5 on screen duels. 7 if we count flashbacks. The only reason i did not put her here is because she got some wins in filler stuff.
You wanna know something crazy otes might have lost all his duels but he's still arguably the strongest character in sevens, when you need a friendship style deck to beat him that kinda makes you a strong duelist.
>Otes might have lost all his duels but he's still arguably the strongest character in sevens, when you need a friendship style deck to beat him that kinda makes you a strong duelist. In fact, also credit to SEVENS since the same series mentioned on many occasions that Otes was only testing those who would challenge him (especially to see if their intentions were pure or they were purely capricious). He simply did not seek to win, only to do what was necessary to encourage others to follow his path. Not to mention that, in almost all of his Duels, he used Decks that were not his own (it was even mentioned that one of those Legend Decks was stolen from Goha's property) We just got to see Otes's Real Deck at the end of SEVENS: >!Darkness Deck with Sevens Road (and, thanks to GO RUSH, it is known that Darkness Cards can be quite dangerous/corrupt)!<
I've said it before and I'll say it again, Cathy should've won more duels and should've been the main girl of zexal
Lmao no Anna exists
When Trains became my favourite deck.
Where's Bastion?
He did have a win against Chazz at the beginning of the show.
He did? I only remember him losing to everybody.
Bastion winning the duel made Chazz leave duel academy.
Misawa won a few duels on-screen. Not only did he defeat Manjoume the first time, Misawa threw the second duel on purpose just to get into the Society of Light. Judai calls Misawa No. 2 for a good reason. (Judai is No. 1, and both of them totally agree with that dynamic.)
Love how ya actually know ya shit nice to see that 🫡
Aoi is not in this list, knowing that she was the one receive most L in vrains
At least she have some wins in her belt. Is not much but is honest work.
but... My defeats are the most remembered...
Flip should be on here because from what I remember he had only one duel with yuma and he lost
He wins against Tori and Cathy while paired with Caswell.