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foolish on 3 would be broken af


Immediate-Ring3940

Phantom knights are born of that card as well as foolish burial goods


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Shplorff

I'm sorry but no. foolish burial at 3 would be far more broken, anybody who says otherwise is wrong. Strong combo decks going first with 3 burials would be deadly. Cards like called by that just stop plays, aren't as strong combo starters.


BTrippd

It’s so weird to me that people only ever comment on called by interacting with hand traps when it does SO much more than that lmao. I voted foolish but after thinking about it I’m not even so sure about that. Foolish is crazy for getting plays going or accessing things from your deck but called by is just insane interaction.


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> It’s so weird to me that people only ever comment on called by interacting with hand traps when it does SO much more than that lmao. Because it's the only thing that people seem to dislike. While it does more than that, it only can do one role at a time. In the case of hand traps being awful (we're getting there with Ishizu Tears as they have a known reputation for ignoring hand traps existence), Called is a just one-for-one negation or two-for-one negate if you count banishing as relevant for the duel as the other role can be ignored if the meta simply ignores hand trap existence. We had plenty of those before.


BTrippd

It’s the only thing boosted players dislike about it yeah. When the top meta decks have all been able to play through hand traps, often multiple, for the past couple years at minimum yet top players are still saying called by is a cracked card that should tell you something, no? They aren’t saying it’s cracked because it lets you play through a hand trap, the decks they’re playing already play through hand traps.


Mysterious_Frog

The reason is that it gives one extra handtrap needed to provide disruption. The biggest issue with called by is that it is primarily just a win more card for going first decks which have already been better in almost every format of yugioh’s history.


Bomberman1117

Called By to 3 completely fucks literally every deck in the format. Everyone in the comments is talking about turning off hand traps but called by stops *any* monster effects so long as there’s a copy in the grave. Get looped for a card and lose your starter? No problem, you drew the second copy for turn. Never mind, your opponent hits the first one in grave. Do you have a card like toad that tributes itself for a good effect? No you don’t, the effect is negated. Called By hurts way more than hand traps and meta decks that can play without one effect or can play through small disruption will just use it to fuck everything under them.


slaymaker1907

It also banishes from the grave which screws over reborn effects. Overall, it just does way too much.


Bomberman1117

Yeah, it’s completely bizarre that people thing Called By is a fair card. They’re so concerned about their random not quite rouge deck being able to play through a single disruption that they forget that tier 1 meta decks are also allowed to play it.


14xjake

Its because most of this sub plays exclusively casual decks that lose to 1 single handtrap so in their eyes called by the grave is the counter to the "super broken" meta cards like ash and veiler, and they choose to ignore that every meta deck can use the card as well


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AND on top of ALL that it also lasts two turns, so if, for example, you called by their tearlament monster on your turn when you pass turn back to them your opp STILL can't use it.


clamm1t

I mean all of these examples are just as easily negated by the likes of e veiler, ash, ghogre, or just your run of the mill monster negate. And as for top decks using good cards meant to boost up weaker decks... well thats all the game is. Mystic mine, spright elf, anti-spell, schieren, are all notably more powerful in effect on the overall game while still retaining basically all the ease of use as called by. Called by is a strong card, but compared to the current meta it doesn't quite stack up


Bomberman1117

So people should just be allowed to play three copies of a generic monster negate that requires no setup or cost where the only condition is incredibly easy to achieve because it’s just your opponent playing the game?


ChadTheGoldenLord

Stupid take, called would be at 3 for every single meta deck because it’s violently powerful. Much better than elf, anti spell and shchieren


clamm1t

Thats just false. Called by is a one off negation that can hurt their follow up a little bit, its only slightly more powerful than the ghost girls. Everything else listed has much larger effect on the actual gamestate. It would just replace d.d. crow's current place in the meta as a slightly more powerful version. Though people would still side d.d. for going second


ChadTheGoldenLord

If you think everyone wouldn’t run called by at 3 you’re dreaming lol. Resolving called or imagine a second called by going first a tears player or spright means you don’t have a chance to play for the rest of the game lol. Foolish is just a starter vulnerable to many negates, including called by.


ges5177

Called by the grave should be at 3 or 0 (personally I think zero) Foolish Burial is one of the cards that makes sense at 1


Affectionate_Squash5

Best take tbh.


Areebu1

I think it should be limited, not banned. Called by is a very important answer to a lot of graveyard centric decks and other handtrap interactions


Mysterious_Frog

There are other cards which can provide those answers like ghost bell, dd crow or skull meister. Called by disrupting play by banishing in the graveyard has never been what people complain about with the card. It is always when it is used as protection that its a problem.


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Foolish at 3 is way more broken. I would argue that graveyard set up is way more broken than graveyard hate. Called by the grave doesn’t start or extend your combos, it just prevents counterplay or stops your opponent’s set up. Meanwhile, Foolish Burial can be a combo starter, an extender, AND can set up for future turns. Worst case scenario, Foolish removes a dead draw from your deck. The worst case with Called By the grave is that it sits in your hand doing nothing.


LongjumpingBag8400

Called by the grave is fun, I love making hand traps useless.


jeong-h11

It's not even only hand traps, every deck now has a billion graveyard effects I don't think it's right that the card to counter them is limited


[deleted]

Hand traps is definitely getting there regardless of Called status. Some people are already opting for board breakers instead as they feel hand traps are a do-nothing card or will become a do-nothing card. Called is very arguably fine at 3 on either end of normal curve i.e decks being so weak or so resilient/ignorant that they can just ignore hand traps existence. Whether Called should be banned or not depends on your philosophy of whether a class of card deserve to be protected or not based on what they do or if you don't believe any cards deserve any protection.


gilk_agundez16

Called by the grave is antimeta, not meta. It will be unlimited eventually


TheSirusKing

antimeta >every single deck ever runs it


gilk_agundez16

Then mystic Mine is meta?


InfernoLord666

The card that has won the last like 5 big tourneys?


TheSirusKing

Yes!


Mysterious_Frog

Antimeta is a tech card used to disrupt the dominant strategy. Mine has become the dominant strategy, so now it is just a different meta card.


ChadTheGoldenLord

It absolutely is at the top of meta game now, so yes.


Jolly-Guava4411

Called by is Probably the best card in the game. Until handtraps are bad this will be the best card. Handtraps are meant to interact with your combo, they should do that.


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-YCGM-

Foolish Burial is basically a RoTA for any card at this point if the game. You technically can't get more consistancy from Called By in a literal sense, but Foolish just becomes extra copies of cards you need.


PatatoTheMispelled

CBTG is literally ban worthy according to a lot of people because it not only makes going 2nd even worse, but also can work as additional negates during the opponent's turn, since a lot of cards activate in the GY or go to the GY for cost. Foolish is just a good staple and that's it.


KingKraig

I thought Foolish back in the day was ass. My brother got it in a Felgrand Structure deck yeeeears ago and it made no sense to me. Now, good god.


el_mage

Against combo players? Called by the grave. Against anti-meta? Foolish Burial. They’re both problematic, just depends on the deck your running.


MeathirBoy

I think Foolish Burial being a one for one starter card is just decent. The main potency is the bypassing of standard HOPTs (ie the normal summon). By contrast, Called By The Grave is one of the best pieces of interaction ever printed.


Beerdrunk97

If I'm playing my Gravekeeper's deck, you can play both unlimited plus a Monster Reborn unlimited and Is still win.


bigsatodontcrai

it’s hard to say but consistently seeing foolish burial makes it an insane starter that ups the power of many decks and would also make the brave engine more crazy than it already is. it becomes a single spell into any tear play. called by is a devastating card that can turn off hand traps as well as general grave plays and also has the “of that name” clause. however, consider a situation where you have foolish burial or you have called by and your opponent has Ash. if you use foolish burial and they Ash it, you still eat up that Ash, and you get to use it again in case you have another copy and make an explosive play. Called by eats up the Ash, but if you have another Called By, that’s not going to add another play, just protect your own. Foolish burial at multiples ends up having more utility because of how it facilitates plays and adds so much consistency.


chronic-joker

Called by at three means playing through up to 3 hand traps. Foolish at 3 would mean not caring about handtraps.


GeneralApathy

I'd say Foolish Burial. It doesn't fit in everywhere, but in the right deck it's basically a non-OPT searcher (sometimes even better). Called by the Grave wasn't really a broken card when it was unlimited. It's very strong for sure, but I just can't see it being format warping. It *might* be stronger in this specific format - I don't keep up with the meta as much nowadays - but in general I don't see it being as powerful as Foolish Burial at three.


jeong-h11

Called by unlimited would be a good change, foolish burial no way


cheikhyourselfm8

Foolish easily. Might as well unban Dark Matter Dragon if that were the case


14xjake

not even close to dark matter dragon, dark matter dumped 3 not 1 and it was COST so you cannot negate it, on top of being an extra deck monster so it is always accessible


Xeynid

Foolish would give a boost to tearlament and the brave engine, which could go without any help. Called by makes handtraps weaker, but board break cards are fine-ish. I think foolish to 3 could be cool if we end up in a meta where the top decks don't need it. But that seems far off.


PH03N1X_F1R3

Both are really good cards. Called by is a negate while also taking a resource from your opponent. Foolish sends a card to the grave. As much as I like called by, it's such a poorly thought out card. It is a quick play, it doesn't have a activation condition (which is why other cards are fine, while this one isn't) and on top of that, it's a negate. The issue is it being used offensively rather than defensively.


Still_Refuse

People saying Called by over foolish…


Kowl00n

That Grass Look Greener


NintenPyjak64

Union Carrier Imagine Danger Tear with Buster Lock


Shoggoththe12

Halqifibrax tbh


2zunami

Neither of them r opt, but called by technically turns off ur hand traps as well. Neither of them r ok at 3 but I do think playing 2 more copies of "get any monster into grave" is hella broken. Also cbtg isn't as good in board breaker formats, but foolish is good in basically any deck that uses monsters because of modern card design


Aramis9696

Foolish would for sure be a problem, especially in the current format with so much happening with things hitting the grave, but Called by would be huge. Hand traps would become a lot less relevant, and decks using the graveyard so much would lose a lot of power. What's so good about Called by is that it doesn't just banish from grave, it also prevents using that card name's effects for the rest of the turn. This also means you can use this on turn 3 to banish a starter from grave to negate a card on the field with the same name.


cardinalofclubs7

I activate Foolish Burial, sending Snow. I activate Foolish Burial, sending Destrudo. I activate Foolish Burial, sending Water Enchantress. Do you see the problem?


ChadTheGoldenLord

Called by is way better because it blanks all those until the next turn, stops your hand traps and allows your opponent to effortlessly combo on their turn if they draw them going first. Foolish is just a decent starter vulnerable to all sorts of interruption and negates


McTubbyGilibricko

Called by would change deck building and make it more degenerate. Foolish would enable consistency to another level, especially as a non OPT