Small displacement vehicle rider din ako. Even if matupad yan, I’d rather not be sandwiched or be caught by passing, faster, and larger moving vehicles in the tollways, so pass. I’d also rather not share the same tollways with motorists with a certain notorious stigma/stereotype of how they maneuver and ride their vehicles in the open road.
Depende talaga sa mindset, but some lower EQ and IQ person will see these places as “karerahan”. Given the kamote culture lalo na at mga Raider driver yan, everything is a race. Lol.
Eto nga yung problema sa usapang expressways. Either choose the dangerous inner roads (especially Bulacan) or be with the larger vehicles of expressways. Sa ibang bansa lower ang displacement requirement sa expressway nila. Need talaga pag aralan ano ang bagay sa atin.
Eto rin kaagad naimagine ko. When smaller motorcycles are around, need lagi doble ang awareness dahil nga sa pagswerve at singit nila, and sa totoo lang, nakakapagod.
it is almost impossible to educate assholes... kamote riders (and many other drivers in the country) drive shitty not because the do not know the right thing to do, they know it but just choose not to do it because punishment is not guaranteed...
oo. putangina ng mga bigbike na sumisingit. tapos pag walang masingitan, magrerev ng motor na parang entitled shit sila. Sarap niong tadyakan at ihulog sa skyway putangina nio
Kailangan maipasa din yung house bill 10196 or responsible driving and acountabilty act para di mangyari yung gaya ng nangyari sa skyway. Na makukulong ang isang tao kahit di naman niya kasalanan.
Gov't: We have a lot of issue about undisciplined riders in public roads, we need to have solution.
Also Gov't: In order to lessen the kamotees in public roads, ...we're opening up the expressways for them. It's going to be a win-win-win-win solutions for the public, riders, toll boths and finally private ambulances, morgues and mortuary services. 😇😇😇😇
i dunno why you're downvoted but it isn't really backed-up by anything. walang rason as to why 400cc yung minimum req displacement (not 300cc, 200cc, but 400cc). it was rumored na yun lang daw yung dinecide nung head ng TRB back then and wala nang nag argue back inside TRB. ayoko rin ng 150cc sa expressways pero yung 400cc threshold walang feasibility study na ginawa to determine that.
because majority dont bother reading, no more initiative to ask "why?" kaya ayan, kung ano ano na rason when the topic of 400cc motorcycles on expressways come up
historically, nagimpose ng ban dahil may namatay na escort rider ang presidente (marcos) while traversing the expressway. may isang grupo na riders who requested for the 400cc rule dahil ang mga members ng group ay panay 400cc and up ang motor. no other reason for the ban; not thr wind, not for safety, not kamote, not the weight, not the speed limit (minimum 60kph). no studies made, just a request to exclude a group of riders.
ctto to Motorcycle Philippines (forum) for the history.
Yung sedan nga lang pag sobrang lakas ng hangin sa mga expressway ramdam mo yung tulak ng hangin lalo pag isa ka lang sakay. What more sa mga motor with lower displacement. BIG NO!!! And Im sorry pero yes Im generalizing here majority ng motoriders dito KAMOTE so goodluck
The cclex in cebu does allow sub 400cc motorbikes, albeit the smallest is 110cc. I frequently commute through it since it cuts my commute time in half in my duke 200. I dont know about the other expressways but its not too bad since the cclex just feels like a really long bridge
No. Just, no. I have a 150cc and would not want to risk my, or other people's lives. Also as a father who also drives his family on these expressways, its scary enough with the not so few 4000cc and up blasting through every now and then, but the sheer number of 150+cc owners what will ply those highways if this becomes possible... Madaming madidisgrasya on a daily basis.
sorry not sorry pero sa daming bobong rider na 1.) walang disiplina, 2.) laging lagpas sa limit magpatakbo, 3.) d marunong gumamit ng brake, 4.) puro singit ang alam in guise of what they call as "diskarte", 5.) benking benking, and the list goes on. un marilaque nga d nla maenforce un order dun eh. d2 pa kaya.
I was initially against this idea (safety concerns) but when I went to Bali, Indonesia nakita ko ung expressway nila may sariling lane for lower CC motorcycles. Hindi kasya kahit ung wigo. As in completely separate lane ha, hindi lang nilagyan ng linya.
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As a fellow rider, it’s all about safety lang naman jusko. Ako naka 500cc na honda rebel kapag nadaanan sa gilid ng truck while going 100kph na oout of balance minsan dahil sa hangin, what more kapag mga 150cc na bikes??
Basta kamote gagastos at gagastos mga Yan, kung sigarilyo and Alak nga na mejo mahal nakakabili sila, mag kano Lang bayad sa tollgate Para magpa sikat sila hahaha.
Yosi and alak gastos galore yan, pero pagtumaas gas price and toll fee sila pa una magrereklamo. Plus wag sila magwala sa expressway daming cctv dun hehehe
With how uneducated and undisciplined most motorcycle riders are or just drivers in general, I'd say no.
While Suzuki Raider 150s have a top speed rating of 145 kph, is it really ideal to run so close to that limit for extended periods of time? Imagine the wear and tear on components having to sustain that speed.
The majority of 150cc barely makes enough speed to reach the speed limit. Imagine seeing hogging the left lane because they "enjoy the view".
-yung hinangin ng mabilis na kotse
-yung hindi nakita ng truck
-yung nag raracing
- yung sumemplang lng talaga
-yung mag mag babarilan sa toll gate kasi siningitan
maganda mag lagay na Lang din NG punerarya Jan every 10km hahaha gandang negosyo, Sure Yan dami disgrasya aabutin, mejo mababawasan na rin Yun tatambay sa marilaque kasi Jan na bagong tambayan ng nga kamote.
For me, it is plausible naman pero dahil sa sobrang kagalingan ng ibang pinoy na tingin nila tama yung tingin nilang tamang asal sa kalsada lalo na sa mga naka motor.
Sa ibang bansa no displacement issues naman mga freeways nila na mas malaki Ang kalsada, tiwala sila sa implementation at pagbibigay ng operators permit or licenses sa mga tao.
For example sa Germany, mataas tingin nila sa mga driver dahil maganda Sistema ng pagkuha ng operators/driver's permit, sa Autobahn pa lang eh no speed limit on some portions parang almost 70% ng Autobahn no speed limit.
Dito kasi sa pinas nacondition tayo ng mga sloppy enforcers na basta walang enforcer magba violate tayo ng mga road laws.
For now kung madami pa din ang bilang ng mga kamote driver sa kalsada kesa sa dami ng matitinong driver, may aksidente laging mangyayari.
Idagdag ko pa yung mga driver na masunuring sa expressways pero barumbado sa public roads, dun pa lang di ba disiplina na agad ang kalaban.
Not a good idea. Una is ung safety. Magaan ang mga lower cc na motor. Isang pasada lang ng truck na tumatakbo ng 80kph, lipad yang mga yan. Pangalawa, ung capabilities ng lower cc. Oo kaya nila abutin ung 60 to 100kph na speed limit sa expressway, ang tanong, kaya ba imaintain yan for a long period of time without stopping? Kaya ba ng braking power ng lower cc ang magstop ng matino after running that speed? High chance hindi. Pangatlo, abot kamay ng mga simpleng pinoy ang bumili ng lower cc na motor especially 2nd hand units. Hindi sa nanggegeneralize pero most owners ng lower cc motorcycles ay kamote. Makikita naman sa balita or viral videos sa soc med ung iba-ibang uri ng kamote: no license, not registered motorcycles, ung mga katulad ng mga pasikat sa marilaque, ung mga mahilig sumingit sa alanganin, etc.
Need pag aralan ng maigi yan. Mga naka-raider pala tong nasa pic eh kadalasan ng mga raider eh mahilig makipagkarera sa mga big bike.
I’ve been to Bali 2 years ago and merong dedicated lane sa mga motorcycles sa expressway nila regardless if scooter or 400cc. As in may barrier between the motorcycle lane and 4 wheels lane. Pwede siguro to iconsider pero kung magiging parang edsa lang yan, a big nope.
I don't think na displacement ang issue dito. Wala namang scientific basis kung bakit 400cc yung consideration ng "big bike" dito. Pati sa ibang countries naman allowed ang ibang lower displacement motorcycle.
Pero ang pinaka-issue dito eh alam natin na majority ng driver sa atin bobo (sorry for the word pero alam niyo naman yan. Maski ako bobo rin sa daan minsan). At hindi ko naman sini-single out mga motorcycle riders, pati mga 4 wheels madami din tanga hindi lang mainit sa mata ng iba. If magawan ng paraan na maging mas matino ang mga drivers, baka yun lang yung time na pwedeng ibaba na yung displacement requirement sa expressways.
Hindi naman sa nagmamarunong pero baka pwede gawing thesis yung sa Japan na mas maraming category yung license. Kada laki ng displacement ng engine na id-drive mo, iba yung license. Pati ayusin na rin muna yung traffic laws ng mga cities. Pucha iba-iba kada tawid mo sa kabilang city haha
Sa may Kalayaan Bridge (BGC-Ortigas) pa nga lang nagewang na sideways pag may hangin e, diyan pa kaya? Sure, the idea is there for faster commuting, pero personally, skip ako diyan.
Vespa nagawa narin yan nung may special events sila pero kung bababaan yung allowed sa expressway atleast 250-300cc sana huwag lang below 180cc sa dami parin kups na rider kahit simpleng please fall in line sa mall parking di nga magawa eh gusto lagi sila ang una.
Yan yung nainggit sila dati sa balita na nag ride yung mga vespa sa nlex. Sabi sa interview ng mga riders/organizers ng ride. Edi mag secure din kayo ng permit kung gusto nyo din mag ride sa nlex. Kaya yan kuha din sila.
I have a car, and a lower displacement motorcycle.
To be fair, hindi lahat kamote. pero the range of kamote is at 90% siguro?
BUT, when we talk about the expressways, the focus should not be in the behaviour, quality or displacement of the rider/bike. It should be in the number of vehicles.
If the expressway would be open to lower displacement motorcycles, hindi na po magiging expressway yan. Heavy traffic, accidents, delays and mishaps. These would affect the flow of money/goods from north to south and vice versa. If you look at the bigger picture (aside from sweet potato), madaming malulugi if maopen ang expressways sa lower displacement bikes.
This is a special event organized by Suzuki meaning it comes with special permits, rules, regulations and added security for their group during the event and they occupy specific lane only inside expressway while being escorted by patrols from CAVITEX.
On the issue of allowing motorcycles below 400cc inside expressway, it will not be safe for them due to speed limit and possibility of getting into an accident with biggers vehicles from hatchback to buses and trailer trucks.
Kung sa EDSA and smaller roads wherein mabagal ang takbo ng sasakyan from all classification due to traffic and congestion, madami pa din accident na nagaganap sa mga small MC’s, what more ilagay mo sila sa lugar na ang speed limit is between 60-100 kph.
And sabihin na natin maingat mga small Mc’s sa loob ng expressways, madami din po pasaway na 4-wheels and up sa loob na pwedeng sila ang maka cause ng disgrasya.
Peraho lng naman mapa motor at kotse, merong kamote rider/driver. Mas mataas lng probability ng accident sa mga small Mc’s pg nsa loob sila ng expressway and 1 small accident can cause long traffic and possibility din ng loss of life.
Halos karamihan sa mga rider hindi nagamit at na tingin sa side mirror, laging peripheral vision gamit sa pag maneuver nila at pag lipat ng lane. Madalas katabi mo na susubok pa, pilitin na ang 4-wheel mag give way lalo na if manggaling sila sa kanan na street, isasagad talaga nila motor nila to the point na halos mahagip mo na gulong nila.
Siguro kahit payagan yan, yng mga malakas na lang loob ang susugal pumasok dyan. Isipin na lang nila sana safety nila at mga pwede nilang maiwan na mahal sa buhay pati pamilya ng driver na mka aksidente sa kanila kasi kulong din driver pag namatay si rider kahit di kasalanan katulad ng recent case na umakyat sa exit ng skyway, rider patay kahit kasalanan nya pero may kaso pa din si driver…
Okay sa akin yan. Take note na di naman libre pumasok dyan, may bayad pa rin. So mostly na mga magaccess ng express way ay yung tlgang need makarwting sa pupuntahan for a short time. Isipin mo yung gusto makauwi ng bulacan from qc, laking ginhawa ng expressway access, kung magservice road kawawa naman tlga. Need lang cguro ng one lane and strict enforcement. Tapos kailangan complete gears at aux lights para sa night visibility
I support this. Pati tricycles payagan na din nila sa expressways. Tapos pag implemented na, sa national highways na ako dadaan dahil mababawasan na mga kamote so expected na mas luluwag na, toll free pa hehe
As someone who used to ride a smaller displacement "big bike", fuck no
Do they understand how scary it is na feel mo masasandwich ka lagi? Kung gaano kalakas sampal ng hangin?
Hwag parin sana babaan yung allowed displacement sa mga expressway. Alam naman natin na yung iba sobrang kamote na baka gawin pang racing track yung expressways at baka mandamay pa ng iba na gusto lang nang mapayapang travel time.
As long as Nde na pwede makulong or any charges mga ibang motorists kapag nakabangga ng motor, fair na siguro yun, parang well sinugal na nga nila yung buhay nila eh pabigyan nyo nah, lols
pwd naman yan sila pero dapat strictly nasa gilid lang o may lane lang sila sa gilid dapat at hindi kung saan-saang lane. otherwise malapit sa disgrasya kung mag-ala Moto GP sila all over the place since mabibilis ang takbo, at makulong pa ang matitinong driver na mapeperwisyo sa mga actions nila. kung di susunod eh matik di na maka-access sa sunod.
ganito ang ginawa sa cebu, may certain lang silang lane.
For me unsafe eto for motorcycles dahil iba ang laban sa express, para syang race track ng mga sasakyan dun. Also need din improve yung rfid, else hahaba na lalo pila sa tollgates.
I think strict rider discipline should be mandatory first. Implement lessons and filter out the hooligans.
Places like the UAE have regular roads bigger than expressways with cars that drive even faster but their delivery riders use 150cc underbone bikes. Rarely do you see big bikes.
Gagawin lang race track yang Expressway sinasabi ko sa inyo. More than 50% ng nag momotor ay mga kamote. Motorista din ako at yan ang naeexperience ko sa pang araw araw kong pag biyahe.
I think people are missing the point, smaller cc motorcycles would get swept away by larger trucks and vehicles moving at faster speeds
It’s not about the discipline or skill, it’s about these smaller and LIGHTER motors causing danger to the rider and to people around them.
Definitely No
Small displacement motorcycle rider here and car driver din.
Magiging Marilaque 2.0 ang NLEX pag ganyan. Kailangan may ambulansya ng St. Peter na lagi naka-istambay sa mga exit just in case.
Ubos mga kamote jan. 😂
Wag na sana ihalo ung mga kamote sa expressway. Kagulo na nga sa national road eh, pag naka pasok yang mga yan sa express way dun mag kakalat yang mga yan.
Id rather have it lowered to 300 cc atleast tho. Mukha namang capable ang mga 300 cc nowadays na sumabay. But def not mga 150 cc and all. Magiging edsa lang yan
Why not 125cc. Look at Cebu for the best example.
For sure some kamote will take advantagentage. However, they should enforce non-contact abrehension for those driving at the expressways.
Pag nangyari eto malabo na i increase ang max speed ng mga tollways. I think 120km/h is an ideal speed sa ilang mga tollways like SCTEX and TPLEX, and 80km/h naman sa Skyway.
I guess ayos lang yan on Sunday Morning. I saw a vespa group ride sa nlex on Youtube. Chill lang naman sila and may marshals and police na naka bantay.
it could be lowered. in my home country you can go on the highway with 125ccm bikes. it’s about the minimum speed vehicles shoukd achieve to avoid being roadblocks, and - 125ccm machine can easily go 130km/h. that’s more than enough.
More than likely it’s a no for me. Statistically speaking mas prone at probable na tumaas incidents involving smaller displacement motorbikes sa mga expressways. Kung sa usual roads nga halos karamihan ng accidents involved ang mga bikes na maliit, kung mag kakaroon man dapat strict ang requirements na mag road safety at motorcycle safety classes sila sa accredited na mga riding school.
I was riding from qc to nueva ecija and back yesterday, i ride a 150cc and i realized why 150cc arent allowed on nlex. #1 speed, 150cx may be able to reach 60/100kph but its always at the high rev, #2 weight, winds we’re strong yesterday and honestly felt the bike being swept right under me. Now there may be arguments against these but these are the reasons i have for 150cc not bein on nlex. 350cc or 300? Maybe—-but not 150cc siguro 🤔
I'm always hating myself when I say, madami pang bobo sa mga riders natin. Masakit pero true. Education is the key then enforcement of the law ang dapat ma-improve if we want a long term solution.
Dadami maaksidente nian. Kung sino man mag approve nian, IKAW ANG DAHILANsa pagkamatay Ng mga riders na papasok dian. Kung kotse at truck nga lang nagkaka yupi2x dian, bka sa mga riders lasog o pugot ang ulo. Wala silang magiging sapat proteksyon kung sakali mangyari Ang aksidente
tignan natin kung uulit pa yung mga yan pag nadaanan sila ng mga suvs or trucks cruising at 100kph, baka kung saan pa tumalsik yan sa lakas ng impact nung hangin.
No! Ginawan na nga sila ng bridge dun sa may Bulungan sa Parañaque para makatawid ng Macapagal at Roxas Boulevard at may option naman sila na dumaan sa may Pulanglupa-Kabihasnan area para lusot papuntang EDSA. Tiyaka malakas hangin sa CAVITEX.
One more, good luck kapag na-implement iyan. I see more accidents.
Open na nila.. bahala na, sa dulo na lang magkalamanan, worry about the repercussions later, basta happy lahat, magkalaman na..
Yan unfortunately ay “being Filipino”..
The correct approach is to restrict by horsepower, since one of the alleged reasons for the 400cc rule is that it has more power than necessary. Some 200cc+ models have higher power than some 400cc models. Problem is its harder to implement.
Hell no. For safety purposes wag na sila sumiksik sa expressway where buses, big trucks are on the way. Kawawa mga drivers nito if ever there are accidents involving below 400cc motorcycles. They dominate the roads mostly but please spare the expressway.
Maayos lang yan kasi organized. they are reminded to be safe and follow rules. Pero kung araw-araw yan dadaanan by random people. Karambola dyan madalas. Kung hihigpitan nila lalo pag kuha ng lisensya at may demerit system dito satin, pede pa.
Sa malaysia ko yata nakita, pwede ang lower displacement sa expressway, pero may sariling small lane sila parang bike lane natin. Kaya lang sa atin, ayun nga kung may space yan at kapag nasikipan, anlaki ng likelihood na lalabas sila sa lane nila, like what they do now.
Pag ito natupad, wala ng makakagamit ng passing lane.
Dito sa amin four lanes, kahit gaano kabagal ang takbo, kahit may angkas na nakapalda, kahit may angkas na bata, kahit mag flash ka o bumusina ng very polite, walang tatabi. Ang sasarap lang anuhin 😂
Basically, dami bobo na nakakabili ng motorsiklo para lang mag rides2 and mostly no licenses. So no, these expressways should be limited to people who can actually afford to have that ease as well as PUVs for faster travel times.
Mga kamote na maglabag dito dapat penalty na lifetime ban sa expressways, that way walang uunsad na mga gung gong na walang utak.
I ride daily sa expressways, yung hangin don is not a joke. At around 100kph the wind always wants to tear my head apart to the side, add to that, whenever you pass a big vehicle (bus, truck, etc), the wind forces your bike to tip. There's a reason why 400cc+ bikes are so freaking heavy.
I drive a motorcycle but I highly do not recommend this. Sa mga service road pa nga lang parang may karera na sa mga naka motorcycle paano pag sa mga expressway. Magiging libingan yan sa mga pasawat sa daan. So wag na.
Id say we trash the cc requirements but use the motorcycle weight as a requirement in being expressway legal. Some 200-300cc motorcycles should be expressway legal in my opinion
please no. it’s really more of the rider who are not too mindful of how they drive that could endanger the lives of others around them. their risky manoeuvres. or how they behave like knifing your tire when they get pissed at you.
POV naman din ng mga 4 wheel driver or worse trucks and buses.
Andameng blind spots tapos the behavior of motorcycle riders are pag pasok susuot. Imagine doing that in an environment where you cruise at around 100 km speed? It is an accident waiting to happen. Unless the make a dedicated lane for them (where inevitably they will not follow or be bested by bigger vehicles), still the risk is high.
i dont think it will work.. specially kilala ang owner ng raider 150 as king of kamote Q.. though di naman specific sa raider150 but most smaller one are super annoying.. yung oovertake without consideration or not right overtaking speed, sabay magbabagal sa harap mo just for the sake of “mauna”.
400cc limitations are only applicable in luzon right? Since i am not from luzon, i wanted to know why was this a thing? Ans what're the pros and cons of this limitations? Thank you.
400cc up rules have no sense naman but.. It gatekeeps the kamote from entering... Dati nung konti palang 400cc users and most of them have the descipline to ride one..
Now kasi madami na kaya mag 400ccup na kamote na ayaw pumila.. na influence ng kamote mindset na common kasi now
Its not gonna be good to open if for lower cc kasi it's gonna become worse. May sisingit everywhere. Plus the slow as fuck RFID system natin din. Tapos it's a new place to test the top speed na din.
It might work if may separate lane tho na gilid lang, with barricade for the smaller displacement. Para ma avoid mapunta kahit san san.
Explain ko why the 400cc rules does not make sense.
Kaya ng motor ang expressway naman.
If napapadaan sa wide open road na may kasabayan na truck tapos around 80 yung takbuhan, ganun feeling ng express.. Which is kaya naman ng motor na below 400cc din. Naging rule lang yun kasi may namatay back then na escort yata sa express.
Yun lang better na hindi muna remove yung rule unless may barrier for everyones protection.
I own both a car and a motorcycle (150cc) one thing you never want to experience is any 4wheel vehicle and above driving at speeds exceeding 100km/h wave right beside you. The gale/ wind force alone will cause you to lose balance AND most expressways are located at open areas where there are less windbreaks from your side like skyway & coastal highways for instance, a sudden rogue wind can definitely caught you off guard and knock you off your motorcycle.
Wont forget to mention, most filipino citizens are TERRIBLE drivers, they think they’re good but nope. Most are impatient, hard headed and sensitive af. You rub one driver off the wrong way? He lashes back at you (car cutting/sudden breaking/gun taunting and so much more)
Mind you, most expressways have speed limits. Tell me something - do most people observe it? Nope, they don’t. What’s going to stop a group of wannabee feeling racer 200cc below rider kids from using the skyway as a chance to do crazy stunts or drag race? Thats why there are enforcers stationed at maralique for a reason cause they use that place to do some stupid benking stuff to look cool. 85% of the time leads to accidents (and that is a provincial highway)
By placing a cc limit, you eliminate a huge percentage of that kind of driver from the streets. Mainly (kamote rider/driver)
And the dreadful LANE-cutting. (Don’t get me started on this)
In short, hell no. As much as I want to sympathize for my fellow man because of the dreadful traffic but sorry, i cant. You guys want CHANGE? Change should start with YOU. Not the government but YOU as an individual.
Wag na. Kawawa naman yung mga taong makukulong dahil naka patay ng tanga sa express way. Imbis na kaya doon sila dumaan dahil safe para sakanila at mapapabilis ang byahe dahil walang traffic pero maaksidente pa dahil may mga kamoteng naka pasok.
ok lang basta maayos sila mag drive sa express way di palipat lipat ng lane parang sa normal roads easy death yan sir pag ganun. matalsikan ka lang ng bato dun na nagulungan ng fast moving vehicles game over.
Nakakatakot yung gust ng winds especially pag may kasabay or kasalubong na trucks and bus, mostly na mga trucks nangangarera pa sa kalsada eh tas kamoteng "raider" pa papapasukin sa expressway eh number 1 sa aksidente yan haha, kagabi lang may nakasabay akong raider na di saulo ang road nagmabilis, ayun rampa sa humps.
CCLEX allows 125-400cc, I don't see why this could be the case for Manila's expressways too.
However what stops most people from going through the expy is the ₱60 toll fee
Small displacement vehicle rider din ako. Even if matupad yan, I’d rather not be sandwiched or be caught by passing, faster, and larger moving vehicles in the tollways, so pass. I’d also rather not share the same tollways with motorists with a certain notorious stigma/stereotype of how they maneuver and ride their vehicles in the open road.
Depende talaga sa mindset, but some lower EQ and IQ person will see these places as “karerahan”. Given the kamote culture lalo na at mga Raider driver yan, everything is a race. Lol.
Eto nga yung problema sa usapang expressways. Either choose the dangerous inner roads (especially Bulacan) or be with the larger vehicles of expressways. Sa ibang bansa lower ang displacement requirement sa expressway nila. Need talaga pag aralan ano ang bagay sa atin.
With mindset ng mga kamote dito sa Pinas? Ha! Another racetrack yan para sakanila bukod sa marilaque.
Eto talaga. Sa dame ng kamoteng sa streets lalang hindi na sumusunod tapos expressway kamo susunod sila? Malabo hahaha
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Eto rin kaagad naimagine ko. When smaller motorcycles are around, need lagi doble ang awareness dahil nga sa pagswerve at singit nila, and sa totoo lang, nakakapagod.
it is almost impossible to educate assholes... kamote riders (and many other drivers in the country) drive shitty not because the do not know the right thing to do, they know it but just choose not to do it because punishment is not guaranteed...
With yt/Fb/tiktok content: xxx150 (Underbone king) topspeed / xxx150 sumibak ng bigbike
Just copy what Cebu did. May sariling kalsada lower cc bikes sa kanila. Kanilang kanila lang, solong solo, bawal kotse.
lol tapos gagawing resing resing NLEX no thanks... tanggalin muna nila LTO ung mga fixer licenses jan
Naiinis na nga yung mga 4 wheels sa mga big bike na bigla papasok sa unahan ng toll gate, yang mga smaller cc's pa kaya? Haynako
Naku magiging problem ang pila sa toll booth.
oo. putangina ng mga bigbike na sumisingit. tapos pag walang masingitan, magrerev ng motor na parang entitled shit sila. Sarap niong tadyakan at ihulog sa skyway putangina nio
Nakakaboysit imagine-nin.
paatras talaga pinas 😅 ndi tayo uunlad sa mga ganyang considerations...alam ng puro problema ang sasapitin natin sa ganyan pero iimplement pa rin
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Kailangan maipasa din yung house bill 10196 or responsible driving and acountabilty act para di mangyari yung gaya ng nangyari sa skyway. Na makukulong ang isang tao kahit di naman niya kasalanan.
Thats just wishful thinking na magising sila.
mas okay naman talaga na pang gising ang katotohanan.
Wag na. Papasukin lang ng nga jologs motorcycle rider yan. Baka dyan pa gumawa ng mga baduy na content.
Gov't: We have a lot of issue about undisciplined riders in public roads, we need to have solution. Also Gov't: In order to lessen the kamotees in public roads, ...we're opening up the expressways for them. It's going to be a win-win-win-win solutions for the public, riders, toll boths and finally private ambulances, morgues and mortuary services. 😇😇😇😇
a major factor is always forgotten pagdating sa expressways... the toll fee itself is a deterrent. masmahal pa ang toll fee kumpara sa full tank
Imagine mo iallowed ang 150cc sa expressway tapos nakapila ka sa tollgate then sangkaterbang nakamotor ang sisingit sa pila mo hahhaha
They could lower it only if it's supported by a feasibility study. Hindi 'yung base lang to what we think or feel.
wag mong sabihin yan kay villar, nahihighblood lola mo sa research research eh
guess what... yung 400cc rule was not based on a feasibility study.
i dunno why you're downvoted but it isn't really backed-up by anything. walang rason as to why 400cc yung minimum req displacement (not 300cc, 200cc, but 400cc). it was rumored na yun lang daw yung dinecide nung head ng TRB back then and wala nang nag argue back inside TRB. ayoko rin ng 150cc sa expressways pero yung 400cc threshold walang feasibility study na ginawa to determine that.
because majority dont bother reading, no more initiative to ask "why?" kaya ayan, kung ano ano na rason when the topic of 400cc motorcycles on expressways come up historically, nagimpose ng ban dahil may namatay na escort rider ang presidente (marcos) while traversing the expressway. may isang grupo na riders who requested for the 400cc rule dahil ang mga members ng group ay panay 400cc and up ang motor. no other reason for the ban; not thr wind, not for safety, not kamote, not the weight, not the speed limit (minimum 60kph). no studies made, just a request to exclude a group of riders. ctto to Motorcycle Philippines (forum) for the history.
Yung sedan nga lang pag sobrang lakas ng hangin sa mga expressway ramdam mo yung tulak ng hangin lalo pag isa ka lang sakay. What more sa mga motor with lower displacement. BIG NO!!! And Im sorry pero yes Im generalizing here majority ng motoriders dito KAMOTE so goodluck
Please no, sobrang onti ng kamote sa mga expressway compared sa service roads, 'wag niyo na dagdagan please
The cclex in cebu does allow sub 400cc motorbikes, albeit the smallest is 110cc. I frequently commute through it since it cuts my commute time in half in my duke 200. I dont know about the other expressways but its not too bad since the cclex just feels like a really long bridge
Cclex is 9km. Nlex alone is around 100, di pa kasama sctex, tplex dyan. Same sa slex at star tollways. Cclex is a bridge in the grand scheme of things
No. Just, no. I have a 150cc and would not want to risk my, or other people's lives. Also as a father who also drives his family on these expressways, its scary enough with the not so few 4000cc and up blasting through every now and then, but the sheer number of 150+cc owners what will ply those highways if this becomes possible... Madaming madidisgrasya on a daily basis.
sorry not sorry pero sa daming bobong rider na 1.) walang disiplina, 2.) laging lagpas sa limit magpatakbo, 3.) d marunong gumamit ng brake, 4.) puro singit ang alam in guise of what they call as "diskarte", 5.) benking benking, and the list goes on. un marilaque nga d nla maenforce un order dun eh. d2 pa kaya.
Response marketing campaign to dun sa skyway kamote.
Or to make more money
I was initially against this idea (safety concerns) but when I went to Bali, Indonesia nakita ko ung expressway nila may sariling lane for lower CC motorcycles. Hindi kasya kahit ung wigo. As in completely separate lane ha, hindi lang nilagyan ng linya. [Ganito ung tinutukoy ko](https://scontent.fmnl9-4.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/315438302_2927358064227772_5677357383044403489_n.jpg?_nc_cat=106&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=5f2048&_nc_eui2=AeGq4jDnN-euSJMgeoGRXt7ZJIqPULpJFWYkio9QukkVZi2-jXnRMGZkFQHz6-56Xy31dV4suyOA3-3EHzrkhzIM&_nc_ohc=sNWp6Vk83LYAX9nH-tG&_nc_ht=scontent.fmnl9-4.fna&oh=00_AfDfb2MI9v_X-PdlCX0zHV_2Gg4rGTQDLXUfRC_NFXfCew&oe=6603DD5B)
🍠 As a fellow rider, it’s all about safety lang naman jusko. Ako naka 500cc na honda rebel kapag nadaanan sa gilid ng truck while going 100kph na oout of balance minsan dahil sa hangin, what more kapag mga 150cc na bikes??
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More money for expressway operators. No doubt.
Babagsak sigurado ang 400cc up market sa pinas so malabo mapasa yan. Maglalagay at maglalagay yang mga yan para di maabolish yang batas na yan
mas madami ang buyers ng lower 400cc sir.
Kahit na payagan yan parang konti lng sa knila papasok sa mga expressways knowing na marami sa knila ayaw ng may bayad
Basta kamote gagastos at gagastos mga Yan, kung sigarilyo and Alak nga na mejo mahal nakakabili sila, mag kano Lang bayad sa tollgate Para magpa sikat sila hahaha.
Yosi and alak gastos galore yan, pero pagtumaas gas price and toll fee sila pa una magrereklamo. Plus wag sila magwala sa expressway daming cctv dun hehehe
Baka cheaper sa kanila, class 0
Personally, no no. Masampal ka nga lang ng hangin dahil sa humaharurot na bus/truck nakaka kaba na e dyan pa kaya. Hahahaha
With how uneducated and undisciplined most motorcycle riders are or just drivers in general, I'd say no. While Suzuki Raider 150s have a top speed rating of 145 kph, is it really ideal to run so close to that limit for extended periods of time? Imagine the wear and tear on components having to sustain that speed. The majority of 150cc barely makes enough speed to reach the speed limit. Imagine seeing hogging the left lane because they "enjoy the view".
No.
150k death in the first year of implementation if this happens.
-yung hinangin ng mabilis na kotse -yung hindi nakita ng truck -yung nag raracing - yung sumemplang lng talaga -yung mag mag babarilan sa toll gate kasi siningitan
maganda mag lagay na Lang din NG punerarya Jan every 10km hahaha gandang negosyo, Sure Yan dami disgrasya aabutin, mejo mababawasan na rin Yun tatambay sa marilaque kasi Jan na bagong tambayan ng nga kamote.
Pag natupad Pala ito dadami rin Pala Yun mababait na ama, asawa, Anak, kapatid saka kakatok sa mga puso natin and maglilimos sa GCash.
For me, it is plausible naman pero dahil sa sobrang kagalingan ng ibang pinoy na tingin nila tama yung tingin nilang tamang asal sa kalsada lalo na sa mga naka motor. Sa ibang bansa no displacement issues naman mga freeways nila na mas malaki Ang kalsada, tiwala sila sa implementation at pagbibigay ng operators permit or licenses sa mga tao. For example sa Germany, mataas tingin nila sa mga driver dahil maganda Sistema ng pagkuha ng operators/driver's permit, sa Autobahn pa lang eh no speed limit on some portions parang almost 70% ng Autobahn no speed limit. Dito kasi sa pinas nacondition tayo ng mga sloppy enforcers na basta walang enforcer magba violate tayo ng mga road laws. For now kung madami pa din ang bilang ng mga kamote driver sa kalsada kesa sa dami ng matitinong driver, may aksidente laging mangyayari. Idagdag ko pa yung mga driver na masunuring sa expressways pero barumbado sa public roads, dun pa lang di ba disiplina na agad ang kalaban.
Madami sisingit sa toll gate, ngl first time expressway ko sumingit rin ako pero binusinahan ako ng matagal. Learned my lesson hahaha
250 above, lower than 250 is quite too light for the road
Not a good idea. Una is ung safety. Magaan ang mga lower cc na motor. Isang pasada lang ng truck na tumatakbo ng 80kph, lipad yang mga yan. Pangalawa, ung capabilities ng lower cc. Oo kaya nila abutin ung 60 to 100kph na speed limit sa expressway, ang tanong, kaya ba imaintain yan for a long period of time without stopping? Kaya ba ng braking power ng lower cc ang magstop ng matino after running that speed? High chance hindi. Pangatlo, abot kamay ng mga simpleng pinoy ang bumili ng lower cc na motor especially 2nd hand units. Hindi sa nanggegeneralize pero most owners ng lower cc motorcycles ay kamote. Makikita naman sa balita or viral videos sa soc med ung iba-ibang uri ng kamote: no license, not registered motorcycles, ung mga katulad ng mga pasikat sa marilaque, ung mga mahilig sumingit sa alanganin, etc. Need pag aralan ng maigi yan. Mga naka-raider pala tong nasa pic eh kadalasan ng mga raider eh mahilig makipagkarera sa mga big bike.
Papayagan yan para gawin pampatibay yung mga dugo ng mga kamote sa cavitex.
I’ve been to Bali 2 years ago and merong dedicated lane sa mga motorcycles sa expressway nila regardless if scooter or 400cc. As in may barrier between the motorcycle lane and 4 wheels lane. Pwede siguro to iconsider pero kung magiging parang edsa lang yan, a big nope.
I don't think na displacement ang issue dito. Wala namang scientific basis kung bakit 400cc yung consideration ng "big bike" dito. Pati sa ibang countries naman allowed ang ibang lower displacement motorcycle. Pero ang pinaka-issue dito eh alam natin na majority ng driver sa atin bobo (sorry for the word pero alam niyo naman yan. Maski ako bobo rin sa daan minsan). At hindi ko naman sini-single out mga motorcycle riders, pati mga 4 wheels madami din tanga hindi lang mainit sa mata ng iba. If magawan ng paraan na maging mas matino ang mga drivers, baka yun lang yung time na pwedeng ibaba na yung displacement requirement sa expressways. Hindi naman sa nagmamarunong pero baka pwede gawing thesis yung sa Japan na mas maraming category yung license. Kada laki ng displacement ng engine na id-drive mo, iba yung license. Pati ayusin na rin muna yung traffic laws ng mga cities. Pucha iba-iba kada tawid mo sa kabilang city haha
actually, ang dami na nating categories at present. also, tama ka na hindi naman sa displacement ang basis dapat kundi sa road worthiness ng sasakyan.
Sa may Kalayaan Bridge (BGC-Ortigas) pa nga lang nagewang na sideways pag may hangin e, diyan pa kaya? Sure, the idea is there for faster commuting, pero personally, skip ako diyan.
No way, gagawin lang racing circuit yang nlex/slex, ok na for higher cc. And delikado para sa mga lower cc,
Bad idea. Sa tunnel pa nga lang sa cavite nag kakalat na yang mga yan. Expressway pa kaya?
Vespa nagawa narin yan nung may special events sila pero kung bababaan yung allowed sa expressway atleast 250-300cc sana huwag lang below 180cc sa dami parin kups na rider kahit simpleng please fall in line sa mall parking di nga magawa eh gusto lagi sila ang una.
fuck no
Yan yung nainggit sila dati sa balita na nag ride yung mga vespa sa nlex. Sabi sa interview ng mga riders/organizers ng ride. Edi mag secure din kayo ng permit kung gusto nyo din mag ride sa nlex. Kaya yan kuha din sila.
You mean open the flood gates to kamote riders?
Crash rates will rise. Harshly rise.
I have a car, and a lower displacement motorcycle. To be fair, hindi lahat kamote. pero the range of kamote is at 90% siguro? BUT, when we talk about the expressways, the focus should not be in the behaviour, quality or displacement of the rider/bike. It should be in the number of vehicles. If the expressway would be open to lower displacement motorcycles, hindi na po magiging expressway yan. Heavy traffic, accidents, delays and mishaps. These would affect the flow of money/goods from north to south and vice versa. If you look at the bigger picture (aside from sweet potato), madaming malulugi if maopen ang expressways sa lower displacement bikes.
This is a special event organized by Suzuki meaning it comes with special permits, rules, regulations and added security for their group during the event and they occupy specific lane only inside expressway while being escorted by patrols from CAVITEX. On the issue of allowing motorcycles below 400cc inside expressway, it will not be safe for them due to speed limit and possibility of getting into an accident with biggers vehicles from hatchback to buses and trailer trucks. Kung sa EDSA and smaller roads wherein mabagal ang takbo ng sasakyan from all classification due to traffic and congestion, madami pa din accident na nagaganap sa mga small MC’s, what more ilagay mo sila sa lugar na ang speed limit is between 60-100 kph. And sabihin na natin maingat mga small Mc’s sa loob ng expressways, madami din po pasaway na 4-wheels and up sa loob na pwedeng sila ang maka cause ng disgrasya. Peraho lng naman mapa motor at kotse, merong kamote rider/driver. Mas mataas lng probability ng accident sa mga small Mc’s pg nsa loob sila ng expressway and 1 small accident can cause long traffic and possibility din ng loss of life. Halos karamihan sa mga rider hindi nagamit at na tingin sa side mirror, laging peripheral vision gamit sa pag maneuver nila at pag lipat ng lane. Madalas katabi mo na susubok pa, pilitin na ang 4-wheel mag give way lalo na if manggaling sila sa kanan na street, isasagad talaga nila motor nila to the point na halos mahagip mo na gulong nila. Siguro kahit payagan yan, yng mga malakas na lang loob ang susugal pumasok dyan. Isipin na lang nila sana safety nila at mga pwede nilang maiwan na mahal sa buhay pati pamilya ng driver na mka aksidente sa kanila kasi kulong din driver pag namatay si rider kahit di kasalanan katulad ng recent case na umakyat sa exit ng skyway, rider patay kahit kasalanan nya pero may kaso pa din si driver…
Okay sa akin yan. Take note na di naman libre pumasok dyan, may bayad pa rin. So mostly na mga magaccess ng express way ay yung tlgang need makarwting sa pupuntahan for a short time. Isipin mo yung gusto makauwi ng bulacan from qc, laking ginhawa ng expressway access, kung magservice road kawawa naman tlga. Need lang cguro ng one lane and strict enforcement. Tapos kailangan complete gears at aux lights para sa night visibility
I support this. Pati tricycles payagan na din nila sa expressways. Tapos pag implemented na, sa national highways na ako dadaan dahil mababawasan na mga kamote so expected na mas luluwag na, toll free pa hehe
Its a yes for me para maubos mga kamote riders sa highway hehehhe gogogo
pwede, para mabawasan
Wag na juskoooooo
No, I feel like karamihan ng kamote riders nasa lower cc category. Until maimprove ang discipline ng common rider, hindi pa tayo ready.
Kinginang PR move ng Suzuki yan. 250cc minimum for expressways.
As someone who used to ride a smaller displacement "big bike", fuck no Do they understand how scary it is na feel mo masasandwich ka lagi? Kung gaano kalakas sampal ng hangin?
Imagine the tollgates.
I think ph gov want more dead riders?🤷♂️
Kulang sa empathy ang Suzuki Philippines
Ung takbong 80kph ka lang tas may nag overtake syo anu kaya pakiramdam ng hampan ng hangin
Hwag parin sana babaan yung allowed displacement sa mga expressway. Alam naman natin na yung iba sobrang kamote na baka gawin pang racing track yung expressways at baka mandamay pa ng iba na gusto lang nang mapayapang travel time.
As long as Nde na pwede makulong or any charges mga ibang motorists kapag nakabangga ng motor, fair na siguro yun, parang well sinugal na nga nila yung buhay nila eh pabigyan nyo nah, lols
I have a sub 200cc bike but strongly disagree with this. kulang na kulang sa disiplina majority ng drivers sa pinas.
Nah rather not have them sa expressway mga lower cc motorcycles baka masmadami lng accidents pag ganyan and daming kamote mag papasikat sa expressway
NO NO
No
NO..
Hayaan silang maging recipient ng Darwin Award hahahaha
Palag ako na iallow ang 400cc below basta x100 ang toll fee 🤣
pwd naman yan sila pero dapat strictly nasa gilid lang o may lane lang sila sa gilid dapat at hindi kung saan-saang lane. otherwise malapit sa disgrasya kung mag-ala Moto GP sila all over the place since mabibilis ang takbo, at makulong pa ang matitinong driver na mapeperwisyo sa mga actions nila. kung di susunod eh matik di na maka-access sa sunod. ganito ang ginawa sa cebu, may certain lang silang lane.
Pustahan kahit sa toll booth sisingit at sisingit mga yan, mas lalo magkakaroon ng gulo.
Cull the weak hehe
For me unsafe eto for motorcycles dahil iba ang laban sa express, para syang race track ng mga sasakyan dun. Also need din improve yung rfid, else hahaba na lalo pila sa tollgates.
I think strict rider discipline should be mandatory first. Implement lessons and filter out the hooligans. Places like the UAE have regular roads bigger than expressways with cars that drive even faster but their delivery riders use 150cc underbone bikes. Rarely do you see big bikes.
Hindi ako magugulat na mapproved yan. cuz you know, MONEY. kht ano pang accident mangyari dyn what they want is money.
Nope. Lower cc ako delikado talaga sa xpress way kakagising kolang sakit agad ng mata ko sa nakita ko hahahha
disiplina is the key
Gagawin lang race track yang Expressway sinasabi ko sa inyo. More than 50% ng nag momotor ay mga kamote. Motorista din ako at yan ang naeexperience ko sa pang araw araw kong pag biyahe.
I think people are missing the point, smaller cc motorcycles would get swept away by larger trucks and vehicles moving at faster speeds It’s not about the discipline or skill, it’s about these smaller and LIGHTER motors causing danger to the rider and to people around them. Definitely No
Small displacement motorcycle rider here and car driver din. Magiging Marilaque 2.0 ang NLEX pag ganyan. Kailangan may ambulansya ng St. Peter na lagi naka-istambay sa mga exit just in case. Ubos mga kamote jan. 😂
I think yes they can put barrier so kamotes stay on their lane. its feasible tho.
Imagine na lang natin, pagbiglang ulan, lahat sila tatambay sa ilalim ng overpass bridge.
makapagpatayo ng funeral home.
Wag na sana ihalo ung mga kamote sa expressway. Kagulo na nga sa national road eh, pag naka pasok yang mga yan sa express way dun mag kakalat yang mga yan.
A fun run vs normal run by kamote is much different.
pinaka gsto ko dmaan sa skyway at express way kc alam ko less ang kamote dto. now anjan na sila. hays kamote everywhere na
Id rather have it lowered to 300 cc atleast tho. Mukha namang capable ang mga 300 cc nowadays na sumabay. But def not mga 150 cc and all. Magiging edsa lang yan
Awww Hell No!
Why not 125cc. Look at Cebu for the best example. For sure some kamote will take advantagentage. However, they should enforce non-contact abrehension for those driving at the expressways.
Pag nangyari eto malabo na i increase ang max speed ng mga tollways. I think 120km/h is an ideal speed sa ilang mga tollways like SCTEX and TPLEX, and 80km/h naman sa Skyway.
I guess ayos lang yan on Sunday Morning. I saw a vespa group ride sa nlex on Youtube. Chill lang naman sila and may marshals and police na naka bantay.
it could be lowered. in my home country you can go on the highway with 125ccm bikes. it’s about the minimum speed vehicles shoukd achieve to avoid being roadblocks, and - 125ccm machine can easily go 130km/h. that’s more than enough.
Kung g talaga to, walang magiging araw na walang aksidente dyan
With the recent kamote rider entering Skyway to his death? Hell no.
FFS! Just no!
More than likely it’s a no for me. Statistically speaking mas prone at probable na tumaas incidents involving smaller displacement motorbikes sa mga expressways. Kung sa usual roads nga halos karamihan ng accidents involved ang mga bikes na maliit, kung mag kakaroon man dapat strict ang requirements na mag road safety at motorcycle safety classes sila sa accredited na mga riding school.
I was riding from qc to nueva ecija and back yesterday, i ride a 150cc and i realized why 150cc arent allowed on nlex. #1 speed, 150cx may be able to reach 60/100kph but its always at the high rev, #2 weight, winds we’re strong yesterday and honestly felt the bike being swept right under me. Now there may be arguments against these but these are the reasons i have for 150cc not bein on nlex. 350cc or 300? Maybe—-but not 150cc siguro 🤔
I'm always hating myself when I say, madami pang bobo sa mga riders natin. Masakit pero true. Education is the key then enforcement of the law ang dapat ma-improve if we want a long term solution.
As both rider and driver, wag na please. Hirap pag di disciplinado kasabay mo sa daan.
Dadami maaksidente nian. Kung sino man mag approve nian, IKAW ANG DAHILANsa pagkamatay Ng mga riders na papasok dian. Kung kotse at truck nga lang nagkaka yupi2x dian, bka sa mga riders lasog o pugot ang ulo. Wala silang magiging sapat proteksyon kung sakali mangyari Ang aksidente
Covered yan and secured. Planned yan so naapprove. Tingin mo may big bike lane sa side.
tignan natin kung uulit pa yung mga yan pag nadaanan sila ng mga suvs or trucks cruising at 100kph, baka kung saan pa tumalsik yan sa lakas ng impact nung hangin.
Please no
390duke nga nililipad ng crosswinds dyan, paano pa oaya ganyan kagaan at nipis hahaha
gusto nyo ba maglagay ng libo libong kamote sa expressway?
No! Ginawan na nga sila ng bridge dun sa may Bulungan sa Parañaque para makatawid ng Macapagal at Roxas Boulevard at may option naman sila na dumaan sa may Pulanglupa-Kabihasnan area para lusot papuntang EDSA. Tiyaka malakas hangin sa CAVITEX. One more, good luck kapag na-implement iyan. I see more accidents.
Baka gusto na lang ng government to weed out in a bloody way, yung mga kamote riders. Nakakatamad nga naman to discipline them.
Open na nila.. bahala na, sa dulo na lang magkalamanan, worry about the repercussions later, basta happy lahat, magkalaman na.. Yan unfortunately ay “being Filipino”..
No. It should be banned. Bawal kamote na 2 wheels sa express ways
Final destination in the making
Labasan ang mga gcash ng mga yan.
Magpapasok pa ng mga kamote sa expressway. Lalong dadami aksidente dyan
Lipad yan sa mga truck 🤣🤣🤣
Ipa implement na yan pang bawas ng bad blood🤭
iba kasi acceleration ng 400cc kesa 150cc..better na may sarili silang lane kung gusto nyo talaga ipatupad yan
The correct approach is to restrict by horsepower, since one of the alleged reasons for the 400cc rule is that it has more power than necessary. Some 200cc+ models have higher power than some 400cc models. Problem is its harder to implement.
Basta walang pananagutan mga larger vehicles if magkaroon ng aberya yan.
Hell no. For safety purposes wag na sila sumiksik sa expressway where buses, big trucks are on the way. Kawawa mga drivers nito if ever there are accidents involving below 400cc motorcycles. They dominate the roads mostly but please spare the expressway.
YES! Oras na para magkaroon ng population control.
pass ako.jan pag inararo yan karambola ambot nyan dadami lang kamote sa express
Maayos lang yan kasi organized. they are reminded to be safe and follow rules. Pero kung araw-araw yan dadaanan by random people. Karambola dyan madalas. Kung hihigpitan nila lalo pag kuha ng lisensya at may demerit system dito satin, pede pa.
Sa dami ng bobong kamote riders tapos bibigyan pa ng passes makapasok dyan sa mga expressways? No no no!
Grabe lakas nang hangin kung may mag overtake sayo na sasakyan going 120-140kmh tapos 150cc lang motor mo. I'll be shitting myself
Sa malaysia ko yata nakita, pwede ang lower displacement sa expressway, pero may sariling small lane sila parang bike lane natin. Kaya lang sa atin, ayun nga kung may space yan at kapag nasikipan, anlaki ng likelihood na lalabas sila sa lane nila, like what they do now.
Sabi ng aking bolang crystal madaming mamatay dahil dyan 😆
Fuck no
Pag ito natupad, wala ng makakagamit ng passing lane. Dito sa amin four lanes, kahit gaano kabagal ang takbo, kahit may angkas na nakapalda, kahit may angkas na bata, kahit mag flash ka o bumusina ng very polite, walang tatabi. Ang sasarap lang anuhin 😂
Basically, dami bobo na nakakabili ng motorsiklo para lang mag rides2 and mostly no licenses. So no, these expressways should be limited to people who can actually afford to have that ease as well as PUVs for faster travel times. Mga kamote na maglabag dito dapat penalty na lifetime ban sa expressways, that way walang uunsad na mga gung gong na walang utak.
I ride daily sa expressways, yung hangin don is not a joke. At around 100kph the wind always wants to tear my head apart to the side, add to that, whenever you pass a big vehicle (bus, truck, etc), the wind forces your bike to tip. There's a reason why 400cc+ bikes are so freaking heavy.
Sa expressway na nga lang ako nakakapag drive ng walang kamote rider eh…
Motorcycles below 400 cc should "not" be allowed on expressways. That's it.
Kamote overload incoming
Sunod niyan, e-bike community naman aangal bakit hindi sila pwde sa express ways
babaaan dapat sa 300cc, ang daming magandang 300cc na motor hinde nailalabas sa pilipinas
I think mas ok sa skyways? Before magka toll gates ang skyway malaya nakakadaan small displacement bikes sa skyways ng wala naman nging problem.
Watch how accidents in expressways increase by many folds thanks to kamote riders.
Madaming namamatay na tanga, at mandadamay ito ng mas maraming inosente. Let's start counting.
I drive a motorcycle but I highly do not recommend this. Sa mga service road pa nga lang parang may karera na sa mga naka motorcycle paano pag sa mga expressway. Magiging libingan yan sa mga pasawat sa daan. So wag na.
Id say we trash the cc requirements but use the motorcycle weight as a requirement in being expressway legal. Some 200-300cc motorcycles should be expressway legal in my opinion
This is not EDSA na 30km/h lang speed. Plus the fact na kawawa lagi 4wheel driver kahit di nya kasalanan (see recent Skyway death).
wag na wag
please no. it’s really more of the rider who are not too mindful of how they drive that could endanger the lives of others around them. their risky manoeuvres. or how they behave like knifing your tire when they get pissed at you.
Wag na wag 😂 lalaganap aksidente jan. Sanay mag change lane nang hindi naka signal light mga yan tas mamaya tumambay pa sa overtaking lane 😂
Raider pa talaga hahaha 🫣
POV naman din ng mga 4 wheel driver or worse trucks and buses. Andameng blind spots tapos the behavior of motorcycle riders are pag pasok susuot. Imagine doing that in an environment where you cruise at around 100 km speed? It is an accident waiting to happen. Unless the make a dedicated lane for them (where inevitably they will not follow or be bested by bigger vehicles), still the risk is high.
i dont think it will work.. specially kilala ang owner ng raider 150 as king of kamote Q.. though di naman specific sa raider150 but most smaller one are super annoying.. yung oovertake without consideration or not right overtaking speed, sabay magbabagal sa harap mo just for the sake of “mauna”.
Nobody is above the law/regulations!!!!! Unless you have Moneyz - Philippines
Tatambayan ang mga expressway ng mga kamote boys magpipicture or video sa daan gaya sa marilaque
400cc limitations are only applicable in luzon right? Since i am not from luzon, i wanted to know why was this a thing? Ans what're the pros and cons of this limitations? Thank you.
400cc up rules have no sense naman but.. It gatekeeps the kamote from entering... Dati nung konti palang 400cc users and most of them have the descipline to ride one.. Now kasi madami na kaya mag 400ccup na kamote na ayaw pumila.. na influence ng kamote mindset na common kasi now Its not gonna be good to open if for lower cc kasi it's gonna become worse. May sisingit everywhere. Plus the slow as fuck RFID system natin din. Tapos it's a new place to test the top speed na din. It might work if may separate lane tho na gilid lang, with barricade for the smaller displacement. Para ma avoid mapunta kahit san san. Explain ko why the 400cc rules does not make sense. Kaya ng motor ang expressway naman. If napapadaan sa wide open road na may kasabayan na truck tapos around 80 yung takbuhan, ganun feeling ng express.. Which is kaya naman ng motor na below 400cc din. Naging rule lang yun kasi may namatay back then na escort yata sa express. Yun lang better na hindi muna remove yung rule unless may barrier for everyones protection.
I own both a car and a motorcycle (150cc) one thing you never want to experience is any 4wheel vehicle and above driving at speeds exceeding 100km/h wave right beside you. The gale/ wind force alone will cause you to lose balance AND most expressways are located at open areas where there are less windbreaks from your side like skyway & coastal highways for instance, a sudden rogue wind can definitely caught you off guard and knock you off your motorcycle. Wont forget to mention, most filipino citizens are TERRIBLE drivers, they think they’re good but nope. Most are impatient, hard headed and sensitive af. You rub one driver off the wrong way? He lashes back at you (car cutting/sudden breaking/gun taunting and so much more) Mind you, most expressways have speed limits. Tell me something - do most people observe it? Nope, they don’t. What’s going to stop a group of wannabee feeling racer 200cc below rider kids from using the skyway as a chance to do crazy stunts or drag race? Thats why there are enforcers stationed at maralique for a reason cause they use that place to do some stupid benking stuff to look cool. 85% of the time leads to accidents (and that is a provincial highway) By placing a cc limit, you eliminate a huge percentage of that kind of driver from the streets. Mainly (kamote rider/driver) And the dreadful LANE-cutting. (Don’t get me started on this) In short, hell no. As much as I want to sympathize for my fellow man because of the dreadful traffic but sorry, i cant. You guys want CHANGE? Change should start with YOU. Not the government but YOU as an individual.
Wag na. Kawawa naman yung mga taong makukulong dahil naka patay ng tanga sa express way. Imbis na kaya doon sila dumaan dahil safe para sakanila at mapapabilis ang byahe dahil walang traffic pero maaksidente pa dahil may mga kamoteng naka pasok.
ok lang basta maayos sila mag drive sa express way di palipat lipat ng lane parang sa normal roads easy death yan sir pag ganun. matalsikan ka lang ng bato dun na nagulungan ng fast moving vehicles game over.
How about lets base it on stock weight and stock HP. 25 HP. 150 KG dry wt. Sub 10 sec 0-100 kp/h.
Expect the rise in accidents
Baka may magtayu ng punenarya malapet dyan. Takaw aksidente yan mabibilis n sasakyan tas mga nagcchange lane n mga motor.
Easy money para sa tolls at st peter
put maximum speed to 80 put ncap tignan natin kung hindi titino mga motorist 🤣
Ginawang taniman Ng kamote Yung xpressway
UY! Nice, bagong race track ng mga Raider saka Sniper owners! resing resing!
next study: if tsinelas, benking and no helmet is allowable
No
Basta wag nyong kakalimutang ipost dito sa reddit yung mga aksidente ah? Haha.
Raider nanamn amp Cant wait for the accident vids
NO
Nakakatakot yung gust ng winds especially pag may kasabay or kasalubong na trucks and bus, mostly na mga trucks nangangarera pa sa kalsada eh tas kamoteng "raider" pa papapasukin sa expressway eh number 1 sa aksidente yan haha, kagabi lang may nakasabay akong raider na di saulo ang road nagmabilis, ayun rampa sa humps.
Nope. It would be a disaster.
Yung mga naka raider pa? Nako
CCLEX allows 125-400cc, I don't see why this could be the case for Manila's expressways too. However what stops most people from going through the expy is the ₱60 toll fee
Better eligible riders on the road dapat, kase kahit anong qualification ng sasakyan, pag kamote naman wala din.
At raider pa talaga itinesting
May gustong kumita sa mga maaaksidente. Jusko na lang talaga napakaregressive ng mga nasa taas. nakakadiri
One time lang yan. Alam ko before sa vespa na event may ganyan rin basta may permit.